BroadwayJ667 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d81b80962/Player-safety This is crap. Even if you miss unintentionally you are fined. What bull. Seriously, way to cave to sports writers NFL. Douchebags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 they should have included the revis hit from denver, it was text book perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d81b80962/Player-safety This is crap. Even if you miss unintentionally you are fined. What bull. Seriously, way to cave to sports writers NFL. Douchebags. I have no problem with it. Blows to the head really do need to stop. They have no problem with nailing someone in the chest, which is just as effective, maybe more so. Learn how to tackle and you will have no problem with the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 I have no problem with it. Blows to the head really do need to stop. They have no problem with nailing someone in the chest, which is just as effective, maybe more so. Learn how to tackle and you will have no problem with the rule. I respectfully disagree. No one is out on the field intentionally trying to hit someone in the head out on the field. It's a result of guys flying around on the field at top speed and running on instinct. I really hate guys going for kill shots because you see guys break away from a lot of them. However if they are going to flag guys who try to properly tackle then the game is over. They can't eliminate big hits because it would change the game. If they allow a guy to hit a guy while he wraps his arms and subsequently hits guy in the head, then it shouldn't be a penalty. He is trying to make a form tackle as they claim they are trying to enforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 i honestly see no problem with this. no reason to be leading with your head or blasting an unsuspecting player in his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 After watching that video I am feeling a little bit differently about how I viewed all of this. I was strongly opposed to the new enforcement of the rule, but it seems they are still looking for good hits evidenced by showing Lewis kill Keller a few times as well as a couple other hits. I'm still a little nervous about the refs and their being trigger happy, but all in all it might be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I see no problem with this. Broadway, I don't how you can say they are asking too much of defenders. Don't hit receivers in the head or neck. It's simple. Ray Lewis had a perfect legal hit on Keller, why can't others do that? Intention is irrelevant. The NFL is trying to prevent head injuries. An intentional or unintentional head shot still causes the same head injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparich Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I see no problem with this. Broadway, I don't how you can say they are asking too much of defenders. Don't hit receivers in the head or neck. It's simple. Ray Lewis had a perfect legal hit on Keller, why can't others do that? Intention is irrelevant. The NFL is trying to prevent head injuries. An intentional or unintentional head shot still causes the same head injury. The only part I don't really like is if you take the same Ray Lewis hit and the receiver just reacts differently and tries to drop to the ground now he gets hit in the head and it's an illegal hit meanwhile Ray would of done the same thing both times and its the receivers reaction that made it either a great play or penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 The only part I don't really like is if you take the same Ray Lewis hit and the receiver just reacts differently and tries to drop to the ground now he gets hit in the head and it's an illegal hit meanwhile Ray would of done the same thing both times and its the receivers reaction that made it either a great play or penalty. Exactly. It wouldn't surprise me if a few guys admitted to taking one for their team by getting their facemasks in the way of a tackle, especially on a big drive late in the game. Take a little headache for a huge first down? Could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 So what happens when a running back does like Earl Campbell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfJybuzkMT0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 So what happens when a running back does like Earl Campbell He'll have a short career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 I see no problem with this. Broadway, I don't how you can say they are asking too much of defenders. Don't hit receivers in the head or neck. It's simple. Ray Lewis had a perfect legal hit on Keller, why can't others do that? Intention is irrelevant. The NFL is trying to prevent head injuries. An intentional or unintentional head shot still causes the same head injury. Because I am a coach and I played. I know how hard it is to aim at a guy who dodges at the last second. I don't believe any of the guys are aiming at someone else's head (except merriweather). Its a respect thing. I hate that guys try for highlight hits. I am a defensive coach so I always want guys to wrap. This is just ruining the game though. The only way to tackle is lead with your head. It's your head. Its on the top of your body. Guys should aim for the all with their head, but the ball carrier is trying to not let that happen. I have a problem when he says "even if you miss your aiming point you are responsible for the results. " That's not fair and that is not football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 The only part I don't really like is if you take the same Ray Lewis hit and the receiver just reacts differently and tries to drop to the ground now he gets hit in the head and it's an illegal hit meanwhile Ray would of done the same thing both times and its the receivers reaction that made it either a great play or penalty. This isn't a soccer flop thing. It's not the receiver's reaction. It's all about where the receiver is hit. It doesn't matter how the receiver reacts. It's about hitting the receiver in the head (including facemask) or the neck. Ray clearing hitting the receiver in the chest and the receiver gets knocked won't result in a valid penalty or fine. There is ABSOLUTELY no rule in the current rulebook that prohibits the Ray Lewis hit. None. Nada. The NFL can't fine or suspend him for the hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Because I am a coach and I played. I know how hard it is to aim at a guy who dodges at the last second. I don't believe any of the guys are aiming at someone else's head (except merriweather). Its a respect thing. I hate that guys try for highlight hits. I am a defensive coach so I always want guys to wrap. This is just ruining the game though. The only way to tackle is lead with your head. It's your head. Its on the top of your body. Guys should aim for the all with their head, but the ball carrier is trying to not let that happen. I have a problem when he says "even if you miss your aiming point you are responsible for the results. " That's not fair and that is not football Great insight, Broadway, but ultimately intent is irrelevant. There is strict liability here. The NFL is trying to stop players from being crippled and mentally handicapped at age 45. If people think that's unfair, so what? There is a lot of poor tackling in the NFL and defenders seem more intent on hitting than tackling. Perhaps this improves technique. But big hits will still be illegal. Lewis could have smashed Keller in the head, but he didn't. If that had been James Harrison, Keller would have definitely hit him in the head because Harrison is a dirty player with horrible technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 i honestly see no problem with this. no reason to be leading with your head or blasting an unsuspecting player in his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 In thinking on this, you know what's going to be the logical conclusion? Guys will just go ahead and start submarining ball-carriers, destroying knees and breaking legs. Then Goodell will have to come up with a new emphasis for officials to over-react to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 they should have included the revis hit from denver, it was text book perfect They would never give the NYJETS props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparich Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 This isn't a soccer flop thing. It's not the receiver's reaction. It's all about where the receiver is hit. It doesn't matter how the receiver reacts. It's about hitting the receiver in the head (including facemask) or the neck. Ray clearing hitting the receiver in the chest and the receiver gets knocked won't result in a valid penalty or fine. There is ABSOLUTELY no rule in the current rulebook that prohibits the Ray Lewis hit. None. Nada. The NFL can't fine or suspend him for the hit. Just to be clear is it your stance that receivers have no part to play in where they get hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 i honestly see no problem with this. no reason to be leading with your head or blasting an unsuspecting player in his head. End Thread. Anyone leading with their head is a moron and deserves whatever punishment they get IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I was going to post how i feel about this. But Mark Schlereth beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Um I can't help but think about the amount of traffic thats bringing to the NFL website. Why did they need to release it to the public? And why did they have to replay each 4 times? Why was there a solid minute of dead air and just hard hits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Great video that is clear and descriptive. I as well am surprised the Revis play wasnt shown. I find it hilarious that the showed Ray Lewis who is a great player but has been flagged a few times for going head hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Um I can't help but think about the amount of traffic thats bringing to the NFL website. Why did they need to release it to the public? And why did they have to replay each 4 times? Why was there a solid minute of dead air and just hard hits? Uhhh so that the public and reporters stop blowing up the NFL phone lines trying to figure out whats right and whats wrong. They want everyone on the same page and repeat it so people dont have to go back and press rewind over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan718 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 hate to see my boy Kellz getting blow up like that...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 I respectfully disagree. No one is out on the field intentionally trying to hit someone in the head out on the field. I guess you missed Merriweather on Heap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 ever notice on the NFL network they show a vicious hit involving a giant player every ******* day ? it's a high hit, btw wonder if it gets edited out soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 I guess you missed Merriweather on Heap? I've said that in earlier posts, that was the only intentional one I've seen. For the most part of the games, I know they aren't intentional. Look the point is that most are an accident. You can't allow an anomaly to ruin the game. We supposedly live in a society where majority rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Give them leather helmets and that will solve 90% of the head shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparich Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Give them leather helmets and that will solve 90% of the head shots. As head injuring from their head hitting the ground increase by %300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 As head injuring from their head hitting the ground increase by %300 Give them a Bryan Cox Neck/Head Pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 lol there have been about 5-6 TD plays today where the defenders just let the offensive players go right by them because they're afraid to hit them. Defense is pretty much dead. Might as well be the Arena league now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 merriweather got the memo hard hit on a WR, in the chest life goes on LOL at the "NFL is dead" BS lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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