JetNation Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 New York Jets Report Card Week 8: Packers @ Jets Quarterback: C- Mark Sanchez: 16/38, 256 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT There are a few misleading things about Mark Sanchez’s stats on the day. They don’t take into account catchable drops, two highly questionable interceptions or poor starting field position. I know some will expect a lower grade, but I think that has to be taken into account. Still, the young signal caller failed to lead his team into the endzone just once in this game, despite many opportunities. He had Braylon Edwards wide open for a 60+ yard touchdown and didn’t throw the ball to him. Running backs: D+ Tomlinson: 16/54/0 Greene: 6/22 They failed to produce on the ground, putting up a sub 4 yards per carry average. I insist that they did not have enough opportunities, especially in the 2nd half. The pass to run ratio was practically 2:1. That’s just poor play calling. Wide Receivers/Tight Ends: F Cotchery: 4/89 Keller: 2/45 Holmes: 3/43 An atrocious game by the wide receivers and tight ends. Keller and Edwards were targeted rarely, so no big deal there. However, Smith lost a fumble and Cotchery is a shell of his former self. He might have had as many drops in this game as he has in his entire career. Holmes had the dropsies as well. Defensive Line, Linebackers, Secondary: A Harris: 8 tackles, 1 sack Lowery: 1 sacks I’m grading the defense together today because there isn’t much to seperate them on. The defense performed outstandingly. Six of the nine points they surrendered came off of turnovers deep in Jets territory. They did not produce a turnover, but you honestly can’t expect a better all around performance than this. Stunning job. Special Teams: D- The only thing that kept the special teams from receiving a failing grade was Brad Smith’s second half kick return to midfield. Other than that you had a missed field goal, a failed fake punt and all around poor starting position for the Jets combined with great starting position for the Packers. Coaching: D Lost in this game will be the tremendous defensive coaching by Rex/Pettine. The offensive play calling was brutal. They relied too much on the pass and not enough on the run, and no one seems to be fooled by any of Schottenheimer’s “tricks”, including a double reverse that almost resulted in a fumble. Rex also lost 2 challenges in the first half, and that kept them from having one for the rest of the game. View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 http://www.jetnation.com/2010/10/31/new-york-jets-week-8-report-card/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 All around I agree. Btw, does Schotty have a hard on for Tomlinson and thats why Greene had only 6 carries? It's retarded that Greene's role diminished and were not playing to our strengths, nor the defenses weakness. What does the coaching staff think when their game planning these games: Schotty: Hey Rex, I heard GB is hurting bad on their D-line. Rex: Yeah, their so injured, they brought that scrub Green in. They took him from us. They must think he's gonna help stop this ground and pound monster running game we have. Schotty: *Thinking* So they think were gonna run it down their throats because their hurting so bad eh? Well we'll show them were not that predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 The pass/run breakdown-22/38-in a game that ws no worse than 1 score until the end is an embarrassment.There is no way the Jets should have thrown nearly that much. The Brad Smith option play is scouted to death. With our OL, FBs and 2 good backs, this team in a game like this should run the ball 35 times. WTF is this idiot OC DOING? Was there any discussion that again we faced a defense other teams abused and instead of brutalizing them tried to get cute. And we're in 2nd place. Simply getting shut oot off the bye is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 The pass/run breakdown-22/38-in a game that ws no worse than 1 score until the end is an embarrassment.There is no way the Jets should have thrown nearly that much. The Brad Smith option play is scouted to death. With our OL, FBs and 2 good backs, this team in a game like this should run the ball 35 times. WTF is this idiot OC DOING? Was there any discussion that again we faced a defense other teams abused and instead of brutalizing them tried to get cute. And we're in 2nd place. Simply getting shut oot off the bye is a disgrace. That's exactly why i'm so pissed. We're not a pass first team. Sanchez is not accurate nor consistent enough to do that yet. If we're an "all-weather" team what the hell are we doing throwing the ball that many times on a cold and windy day? We were within one score the entire ******* game so there's no reason why we needed to go into all pass mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 That's exactly why i'm so pissed. We're not a pass first team. Sanchez is not accurate nor consistent enough to do that yet. If we're an "all-weather" team what the hell are we doing throwing the ball that many times on a cold and windy day? We were within one score the entire ******* game so there's no reason why we needed to go into all pass mode. Don't understand it either. You're the voice of reason, can you please give sh*tty a call and make some sense of this garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 http://www.jetnation.com/2010/10/31/new-york-jets-week-8-report-card/ i had a strong feeling you would kill sanchez on his grade.a little low to my liking but not as expected.sanchez had 6 or so bad throws and 4 or so throw aways(smart qb).add the 7 easy drops,4 or so tougher grabs but still hit the receiver in the hands,and the 2 interceptions(result of soft a$$ receiver play)and sanchez's numbers are looking like 28 for 38 for 350+ yards,2 td's,and zero interceptions.they asked alot of sanchez this game,and for the most part,he came up big.most people dont see that because his numbers werent great.if the jets receivers didnt play like dog sh*t,he gets an "a" grade.i think a b+ is in order. i also thought you were a little soft on coaching and receivers.they should receive an f minus,minus,minus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 is it possible to give the JEts a negative grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Matt I think Sanchez should be an F. The interceptions were debatable. But he threw some others that should have been picked off. And I am posting it all over but he missed a wide open Edwards from the 10. He had nobody in back of him. Sanchez didn't see Braylon, it should have been a 90 yard TD. And he botched the pass to Holmes on that crossing pattern, I think Holmes could have gone the distance as well. The drops were bad. But even with that, it wasn't a good day for Mark. Best case a D. But when you get shutout I don't see how that can be anything other than failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Matt I think Sanchez should be an F. The interceptions were debatable. But he threw some others that should have been picked off. And I am posting it all over but he missed a wide open Edwards from the 10. He had nobody in back of him. Sanchez didn't see Braylon, it should have been a 90 yard TD. And he botched the pass to Holmes on that crossing pattern, I think Holmes could have gone the distance as well. The drops were bad. But even with that, it wasn't a good day for Mark. Best case a D. But when you get shutout I don't see how that can be anything other than failing. It's funny cause there was a comment before saying I was too tough on him, and you say too easy on him.. you know what, it's a bit of both, really. You're absolutely correct on both of those points you raised. At the same time, I'm having trouble calling those two passes interceptions, I don't know what the hell kind of interception it is when you take the ball from a receiver on the ground. That's ridiculous. Also the dropped passes were just incredible in this game, I'm counting 5 by J-Co ALONE. A lot of times quarterbacks are at least partially to blame for that kind of stuff but when you add them up those are way too many drops. Probably like 10 total. Just nuts. Imagine how different Sanchez's line comes out if that stuff happens at a normal rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I thought I traveled back in time yesterday with that game...looked more like a preseason game that I've seen many times. What a cluster ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 It's funny cause there was a comment before saying I was too tough on him, and you say too easy on him.. you know what, it's a bit of both, really. You're absolutely correct on both of those points you raised. At the same time, I'm having trouble calling those two passes interceptions, I don't know what the hell kind of interception it is when you take the ball from a receiver on the ground. That's ridiculous. Also the dropped passes were just incredible in this game, I'm counting 5 by J-Co ALONE. A lot of times quarterbacks are at least partially to blame for that kind of stuff but when you add them up those are way too many drops. Probably like 10 total. Just nuts. Imagine how different Sanchez's line comes out if that stuff happens at a normal rate. I do think when they grade that game internally Mark is getting one of his worst grades of the year. A lot of bad decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Matt I think Sanchez should be an F. The interceptions were debatable. But he threw some others that should have been picked off. And I am posting it all over but he missed a wide open Edwards from the 10. He had nobody in back of him. Sanchez didn't see Braylon, it should have been a 90 yard TD. And he botched the pass to Holmes on that crossing pattern, I think Holmes could have gone the distance as well. The drops were bad. But even with that, it wasn't a good day for Mark. Best case a D. But when you get shutout I don't see how that can be anything other than failing. max,just acoupla things to think about.with the way the receivers dropped the ball all day,it is no given that edwards would have caught the bomb anyways.on the crossing pattern to holmes,imo,that was a drop.holmes seems to catch with his body instead of his hands.the ball was placed a little low and on his hip.sanchez could have led him a little more,but the fact remains,it was a very catchable ball.less talented wide outs make that catch 95% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 max,just acoupla things to think about.with the way the receivers dropped the ball all day,it is no given that edwards would have caught the bomb anyways.on the crossing pattern to holmes,imo,that was a drop.holmes seems to catch with his body instead of his hands.the ball was placed a little low and on his hip.sanchez could have led him a little more,but the fact remains,it was a very catchable ball.less talented wide outs make that catch 95% of the time On the Holmes ball, yes I do think it was catchable but probably would have prevented him from taking it the distance. If he hits him in stride it looked good. And about Braylon from the 10. Yes, it could have been dropped, overthrown etc. But all that is better than not seeing him all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 On the Holmes ball, yes I do think it was catchable but probably would have prevented him from taking it the distance. If he hits him in stride it looked good. And about Braylon from the 10. Yes, it could have been dropped, overthrown etc. But all that is better than not seeing him all together. true.but i just dont think he had a bad game.if the receivers show up to play,sanchez plays well enough to win this game going away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 true.but i just dont think he had a bad game.if the receivers show up to play,sanchez plays well enough to win this game going away Yeah that is a good point. Cimini said the same thing in his recap on ESPN NY. Said that after watching the game again, Sanchez should have been 23 for 38 passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 All around I agree. Btw, does Schotty have a hard on for Tomlinson and thats why Greene had only 6 carries? It's retarded that Greene's role diminished and were not playing to our strengths, nor the defenses weakness. What does the coaching staff think when their game planning these games: Schotty: Hey Rex, I heard GB is hurting bad on their D-line. Rex: Yeah, their so injured, they brought that scrub Green in. They took him from us. They must think he's gonna help stop this ground and pound monster running game we have. Schotty: *Thinking* So they think were gonna run it down their throats because their hurting so bad eh? Well we'll show them were not that predictable. +1 WTF is with Tomlinson getting all these carries? Forget about the running. The guy keeps putting it on the carpet. Green got benched for fumbling, but Tomlinson keeps getting a pass. I don't really care that he's alert enough to dive on it. Pound them with Green. Punch them in the face. That's what this team is supposed to do. I didn't read through all the threads yet, does anybody have an explanation for the Sanchez 1st down dive? I assumed they were looking for an offside or 12 men on the field against the D, but it made no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 +1 WTF is with Tomlinson getting all these carries? Forget about the running. The guy keeps putting it on the carpet. Green got benched for fumbling, but Tomlinson keeps getting a pass. I don't really care that he's alert enough to dive on it. Pound them with Green. Punch them in the face. That's what this team is supposed to do. I didn't read through all the threads yet, does anybody have an explanation for the Sanchez 1st down dive? I assumed they were looking for an offside or 12 men on the field against the D, but it made no sense. People are saying it was to prevent green bay from reviewing the previous play, because someone may have thought Sanchez was passed the LOS when he threw the pass to Keller. If so that's terrible, he was well behind it, and even still a quick snap would have been good enough to prevent a review. I don't see the need to just throw away the play with a sneak there. Also there was no reason to make Greene disappear in that game, they should have been running it much more, and he should of had more than 6 carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 +1 WTF is with Tomlinson getting all these carries? Forget about the running. The guy keeps putting it on the carpet. Green got benched for fumbling, but Tomlinson keeps getting a pass. I don't really care that he's alert enough to dive on it. Pound them with Green. Punch them in the face. That's what this team is supposed to do. I didn't read through all the threads yet, does anybody have an explanation for the Sanchez 1st down dive? I assumed they were looking for an offside or 12 men on the field against the D, but it made no sense. FOX completely FAILED on the broadcast. They were worried that Sanchez was going to get called for being beyond the line of scrimmage on the previous pass play where it went for a big chunk of yards. Sneaking it was to prevent a potential challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 And I am posting it all over but he missed a wide open Edwards from the 10. He had nobody in back of him. Sanchez didn't see Braylon, it should have been a 90 yard TD. And he botched the pass to Holmes on that crossing pattern, I think Holmes could have gone the distance as well. Looks like he missed a wide open Edwards a 2nd time as well: Sunday's debacle went beyond dropped passes. Quarterback Mark Sanchez, suffering his worst statistical game in nearly a year, also failed to locate open receivers. On the second-to-last possession, Edwards was wide open in the end zone, but Sanchez threw an incompletion in the corner of the end zone to a well-covered Cotchery. "No one was within 20 yards of Edwards," Ryan said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Looks like he missed a wide open Edwards a 2nd time as well: Sunday's debacle went beyond dropped passes. Quarterback Mark Sanchez, suffering his worst statistical game in nearly a year, also failed to locate open receivers. On the second-to-last possession, Edwards was wide open in the end zone, but Sanchez threw an incompletion in the corner of the end zone to a well-covered Cotchery. "No one was within 20 yards of Edwards," Ryan said. Has there ever been a qb that never missed locating open receivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Looks like he missed a wide open Edwards a 2nd time as well: Sunday's debacle went beyond dropped passes. Quarterback Mark Sanchez, suffering his worst statistical game in nearly a year, also failed to locate open receivers. On the second-to-last possession, Edwards was wide open in the end zone, but Sanchez threw an incompletion in the corner of the end zone to a well-covered Cotchery. "No one was within 20 yards of Edwards," Ryan said. I saw Cimini write that, very interesting. Have to be honest, I missed Edwards as well, lol. Didn't see that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Has there ever been a qb that never missed locating open receivers? Steve Grogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I saw Cimini write that, very interesting. Have to be honest, I missed Edwards as well, lol. Didn't see that one. Yea, I'm spectacle on that one as well. If he was that wide open, you'd think the TV repalys would have showed it like the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Yea, I'm spectacle on that one as well. If he was that wide open, you'd think the TV repalys would have showed it like the first one. You are spectacle, aren't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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