Its Time To Make A Move

[Smashmouth]

When another team says your offense is predictable thats an open rap on your OC. Ive never seen a team that has its recievers constantly blanketed that the QB always has to throw into tight coverage. Due to the predictability Defenses we face are never off balance and always loose to concentrate on making plays. When you hand a team like Green Bay your play book on a silver platter they are bound to make plays and thats essentally what we did. They are a ball hawking play making defense Just like the Ravens and we simply could not deal with it. See the Trend ?? Who do you face in the playoffs ? Good defenses. How do you guys think its going to go the SECOND time we face Bill Belichick as his defense improves every week ? How do you think its going to be Facing him the next 5 + years after he has a draft with 900 picks ?

Shiotty has no clue how to keep a defense off balance and he has no clue how to use play action. Yesterday was run pass pass...Run Pass pass...run pass pass all freaking day long its was a joke and dont foprget the obvious Reverses and wildcat garbage just when our QB seems to be getting in rhythm its comical at best. We used to be run run pass.... run run pass...run run pass so I guess run pass pass is sh*ttys way of fooling the Defense.

How many times on first down did run for 4 or 5 sometimes 6 yards ? so why not run it again and wear this team down with our O-Line ?? Instead we went into obvious passing formations and never even once called a draw play ? Does sh*tty even know WTF a draw play is ? Have you seen the designed screens he runs ? They are the worst designed screens in the NFL and are almost always flushed out Just like his idiotic reverses and double reverses and The wildcat where Brad Smith takes the ball and runs directly into the middle of the line . WTF is going on here ?

If this team does make the playoffs solely based on talent, eventually in the playoffs we will become predictable and lose. No way this idiot can fool playoff defenses for 3 games in a row NO F0CKIN WAY. YEP were going to have to play 3 games AGAIN because the Pats will win this division. You can bank on that.

You can forget winning a SB with this idiot running the offense. I do believe we have more than enough talent to beat anyone, but if you cant get the amount of talent we have in Mismatches you will never win games when every throw is contested like they were aganist the Ravens and the Packers. This team has played what I would call 1 good game this season (sorry Im not counting Buffalo) and that was aganist the Pats, It was the only truly complete game we played all year.

And just for the record as much as I like Rex Ryan as our head coach I certainly blame him for not recognizing what an Idiot Shottenheimer is. If this team fails YET AGAIN I blame Rex for not stepping forward an giving this pile of horse Shott his walking papers because in the end when you have a glaring weakness its up to the head coach to make a move. This guy has a track record that never had any success in this league, now that hes loaded down with talent he still can not get the job done. ITS TIME REX Do what needs to be done before we lose our actual window to win a SB.

Those of you thinking its a ba move to change OC's mid season need to really think this out. Callahan is already very involved with the Oline and knows all the plays half a season is plenty of time to turn this around and be seasoned for the play offs by slowly converting this offense to what it should be.

[JetsFan220]

When another team says your offense is predictable thats an open rap on your OC. Ive never seen a team that has its recievers constantly blanketed that the QB always has to throw into tight coverage. Due to the predictability Defenses we face are never off balance and always loose to concentrate on making plays. When you hand a team like Green Bay your play book on a silver platter they are bound to make plays and thats essentally what we did. They are a ball hawking play making defense Just like the Ravens and we simply could not deal with it. See the Trend ?? Who do you face in the playoffs ? Good defenses. How do you guys think its going to go the SECOND time we face Bill Belichick as his defense improves every week ? How do you think its going to be Facing him the next 5 + years after he has a draft with 900 picks ?

Shiotty has no clue how to keep a defense off balance and he has no clue how to use play action. Yesterday was run pass pass...Run Pass pass...run pass pass all freaking day long its was a joke and dont foprget the obvious Reverses and wildcat garbage just when our QB seems to be getting in rhythm its comical at best. We used to be run run pass.... run run pass...run run pass so I guess run pass pass is sh*ttys way of fooling the Defense.

How many times on first down did run for 4 or 5 sometimes 6 yards ? so why not run it again and wear this team down with our O-Line ?? Instead we went into obvious passing formations and never even once called a draw play ? Does sh*tty even know WTF a draw play is ? Have you seen the designed screens he runs ? They are the worst designed screens in the NFL and are almost always flushed out Just like his idiotic reverses and double reverses and The wildcat where Brad Smith takes the ball and runs directly into the middle of the line . WTF is going on here ?

If this team does make the playoffs solely based on talent, eventually in the playoffs we will become predictable and lose. No way this idiot can fool playoff defenses for 3 games in a row NO F0CKIN WAY. YEP were going to have to play 3 games AGAIN because the Pats will win this division. You can bank on that.

You can forget winning a SB with this idiot running the offense. I do believe we have more than enough talent to beat anyone, but if you cant get the amount of talent we have in Mismatches you will never win games when every throw is contested like they were aganist the Ravens and the Packers. This team has played what I would call 1 good game this season (sorry Im not counting Buffalo) and that was aganist the Pats, It was the only truly complete game we played all year.

And just for the record as much as I like Rex Ryan as our head coach I certainly blame him for not recognizing what an Idiot Shottenheimer is. If this team fails YET AGAIN I blame Rex for not stepping forward an giving this pile of horse Shott his walking papers because in the end when you have a glaring weakness its up to the head coach to make a move. This guy has a track record that never had any success in this league, now that hes loaded down with talent he still can not get the job done. ITS TIME REX Do what needs to be done before we lose our actual window to win a SB.

Those of you thinking its a ba move to change OC's mid season need to really think this out. Callahan is already very involved with the Oline and knows all the plays half a season is plenty of time to turn this around and be seasoned for the play offs by slowly converting this offense to what it should be.

Not only did the Packers defenders say that the Jets offense was "nothing special" they also were wondering why they seemed to abandon the run early.

[Smashmouth]

Not only did the Packers defenders say that the Jets offense was "nothing special" they also were wondering why they seemed to abandon the run early.

Well thats because sh*tty was going to fool them with his crazy passing attack that fools no one.

[JetsFan220]

Well thats because sh*tty was going to fool them with his crazy passing attack that fools no one.

That seems to always be his problem...he tries to out-think the other team but he just out-thinks himself and his team

i.e. - the double revers to Cotchery that lost us 8-yards in the middle of what was turning into a decent drive

[visajets]

Schotte is a 1 dimensional offensive coordinator. He doesnt have the knowledge or the guts to make adjustments as the game plays out. The NYJETS are 5-2 and both losses are on him. I dont want the same thing happening in the AFC Championship game or worse yet the Super Bowl. Either Schotte fixes it or Rex fires him.

[JiF]

Weird, another Schotty thread.

Callahan cant make Mark Sanchez good. Callahan cant make WR's catch the Football. Callahan cant make players hold on to the Football. You know who cant do that either, Schotty.

No, he's not a good offensive coordinator. But you dont fire him mid season. Not when your QB play sucks. Its tough calling a game when your QB is doodoo, the model said it himself. Were there areas for improvement from Schotty, absolutely. But when your QB cant hit the broad side of a barn, hard to put all the blame on the OC. The plays, the protection were there and the team couldnt finish. Why is that the OC fault?

The Steelers are supposedly the best team in Football, led by a 2 time SB winning veteran QB. If it werent for one long run, they would have been held to 3 pts by a reeling Saints team. Should they fire their OC too? These games happen and if Mark made a couple of the right throws and our WR's dont drop half those passes, I highly doubt the fire Schotty threads would be nearly as abundant.

Its actually quite ignorant to put this all on Schotty. Mark Sanchez and the offense sucked yesterday.

[Klecko73isGod]

Weird, another Schotty thread.

Callahan cant make Mark Sanchez good. Callahan cant make WR's catch the Football. Callahan cant make players hold on to the Football. You know who cant do that either, Schotty.

No, he's not a good offensive coordinator. But you dont fire him mid season. Not when your QB play sucks. Its tough calling a game when your QB is doodoo, the model said it himself. Were there areas for improvement from Schotty, absolutely. But when your QB cant hit the broad side of a barn, hard to put all the blame on the OC. The plays, the protection were there and the team couldnt finish. Why is that the OC fault?

The Steelers are supposedly the best team in Football, led by a 2 time SB winning veteran QB. If it werent for one long run, they would have been held to 3 pts by a reeling Saints team. Should they fire their OC too? These games happen and if Mark made a couple of the right throws and our WR's dont drop half those passes, I highly doubt the fire Schotty threads would be nearly as abundant.

Its actually quite ignorant to put this all on Schotty. Mark Sanchez and the offense sucked yesterday.

I just don't understand why we only ran 22 times against the 27th ranked rushing defense in the league.

If our run/pass ratio were reversed we win yesterday and rather easily.

[NIGHT STALKER]

Weird, another Schotty thread.

Callahan cant make Mark Sanchez good. Callahan cant make WR's catch the Football. Callahan cant make players hold on to the Football. You know who cant do that either, Schotty.

No, he's not a good offensive coordinator. But you dont fire him mid season. Not when your QB play sucks. Its tough calling a game when your QB is doodoo, the model said it himself. Were there areas for improvement from Schotty, absolutely. But when your QB cant hit the broad side of a barn, hard to put all the blame on the OC. The plays, the protection were there and the team couldnt finish. Why is that the OC fault?

The Steelers are supposedly the best team in Football, led by a 2 time SB winning veteran QB. If it werent for one long run, they would have been held to 3 pts by a reeling Saints team. Should they fire their OC too? These games happen and if Mark made a couple of the right throws and our WR's dont drop half those passes, I highly doubt the fire Schotty threads would be nearly as abundant.

Its actually quite ignorant to put this all on Schotty. Mark Sanchez and the offense sucked yesterday.

Good post. If we execute yesterday, we win...crappy offensive calling and all.

[visajets]

As soon as Schotte realizes how good BE really is and starts getting him the ball our passing game wont change. Up until yesterday BE and DK were the go to guys. Yesterday the NYJETS decided to continually throw to JC and SH why?

[JiF]

I just don't understand why we only ran 22 times against the 27th ranked rushing defense in the league.

If our run/pass ratio were reversed we win yesterday and rather easily.

I agree. Especially when your QB and receivers are struggling.

Good post. If we execute yesterday, we win...crappy offensive calling and all.

No doubt about it. 2-3 plays with different results and we win walking away.

As soon as Schotte realizes how good BE really is and starts getting him the ball our passing game wont change. Up until yesterday BE and DK were the go to guys. Yesterday the NYJETS decided to continually throw to JC and SH why?

Schotty isnt throwing the Football. He's not making the decisions on the field. He could draw up 50 plays for BE, but if you cant get him the ball, does it matter?

[Gastineau Lives]

As soon as Schotte realizes how good BE really is and starts getting him the ball our passing game wont change. Up until yesterday BE and DK were the go to guys. Yesterday the NYJETS decided to continually throw to JC and SH why?

Okay, Santonio Holmes was destroying them in the first quarter and then got three passes thrown his way the rest of the game. The guy that was "continually" thrown to was Cotchery, who had thirteen targets.

The one I find more troubling is Dustin Keller.

[visajets]

Okay, Santonio Holmes was destroying them in the first quarter and then got three passes thrown his way the rest of the game. The guy that was "continually" thrown to was Cotchery, who had thirteen targets.

The one I find more troubling is Dustin Keller.

Destroying them? 5-9 yd catches. Come on man!

[Scott Dierking]

As soon as Schotte realizes how good BE really is and starts getting him the ball our passing game wont change. Up until yesterday BE and DK were the go to guys. Yesterday the NYJETS decided to continually throw to JC and SH why?

Well, SH was wide open on one play with no one behind him. That screams to throw the ball to him.

[Scott Dierking]

Okay, Santonio Holmes was destroying them in the first quarter and then got three passes thrown his way the rest of the game. The guy that was "continually" thrown to was Cotchery, who had thirteen targets.

The one I find more troubling is Dustin Keller.

Dustin Keller had a most forgettable day yesterday. That holding call was atrocious. He was covered by far less superior athletes.

[Smashmouth]

Weird, another Schotty thread.

Callahan cant make Mark Sanchez good. Callahan cant make WR's catch the Football. Callahan cant make players hold on to the Football. You know who cant do that either, Schotty.

No, he's not a good offensive coordinator. But you dont fire him mid season. Not when your QB play sucks. Its tough calling a game when your QB is doodoo, the model said it himself. Were there areas for improvement from Schotty, absolutely. But when your QB cant hit the broad side of a barn, hard to put all the blame on the OC. The plays, the protection were there and the team couldnt finish. Why is that the OC fault?

The Steelers are supposedly the best team in Football, led by a 2 time SB winning veteran QB. If it werent for one long run, they would have been held to 3 pts by a reeling Saints team. Should they fire their OC too? These games happen and if Mark made a couple of the right throws and our WR's dont drop half those passes, I highly doubt the fire Schotty threads would be nearly as abundant.

Its actually quite ignorant to put this all on Schotty. Mark Sanchez and the offense sucked yesterday.

You can blame this on the QB for a couple of bad games this year but I can Blame it on sh*tty for years of the same predictable ineffective nonsense. This thread topic and request was not due to one game JIF, and I think you know that. Do you think Im so Shallow to call for someones head after one bad game or is this something that has been building up in Jets fans for Years?

A good Offensive coordinator should also recognize players tendencies during games as well as weather conditions which seemed windy and were giving both QB's fits. Rodgers (one of the most accurate QB's in the NFL) was trying to adapt but he seemed to be over throwing everything while Sanchez seemed to be underthrowing everything. Green Bay could not adapt because they have a one dimentional team with no running game, WTF is our excuse ? We never tried to sustain a running game at all yesterday and this game reminded me of last years wind bowl vs Buffalo when Idiot sh*tty was attacking the Bills down field in 35 MPH winds.

Yes we dropped some passes and yes thats on the players But if those passes were caught did you see us lighting up the scoreboard ? Maybe Santonio droped a quick 7 but sh*t like that happens and is an Isolated play. Sometimes big plays cover up the underlying problem, or good games. Mark my words the Jets will have some huge offensive games this year but they WONT be consistent and they wont be able to sustain having to win 3 playoff games and a SB. Do you see sh*tty calling 4 great games in a row ? Has he ever called more then 2 in his life ?

Looking into the future do we want sh*tty calling the offense if we make the playoffs or do we want Callahan ? You say we cant make this move mid season ...WHY ? Its not like some Inexperienced position coach will be taking over. Bill Callahan will be taking over and I dont thiink he has anything to prove.The Jets have to grow some balls and make the right move here too many years of coaching nonsense says its something we MUST DO.

[Smashmouth]

I agree. Especially when your QB and receivers are struggling.

No doubt about it. 2-3 plays with different results and we win walking away.

Schotty isnt throwing the Football. He's not making the decisions on the field. He could draw up 50 plays for BE, but if you cant get him the ball, does it matter?

Do you not see how much predictability effects an offense ? Did you notice that almost every single pass we throw is contested ? Were fooling no one our offense and its direction is a f#cking laughing stock

[JiF]

You can blame this on the QB for a couple of bad games this year but I can Blame it on sh*tty for years of the same predictable ineffective nonsense. This thread topic and request was not due to one game JIF, and I think you know that. Do you think Im so Shallow to call for someones head after one bad game or is this something that has been building up in Jets fans for Years?

A good Offensive coordinator should also recognize players tendencies during games as well as weather conditions which seemed windy and were giving both QB's fits. Rodgers (one of the most accurate QB's in the NFL) was trying to adapt but he seemed to be over throwing everything while Sanchez seemed to be underthrowing everything. Green Bay could not adapt because they have a one dimentional team with no running game, WTF is our excuse ? We never tried to sustain a running game at all yesterday and this game reminded me of last years wind bowl vs Buffalo when Idiot sh*tty was attacking the Bills down field in 35 MPH winds.

Yes we dropped some passes and yes thats on the players But if those passes were caught did you see us lighting up the scoreboard ? Maybe Santonio droped a quick 7 but sh*t like that happens and is an Isolated play. Sometimes big plays cover up the underlying problem, or good games. Mark my words the Jets will have some huge offensive games this year but they WONT be consistent and they wont be able to sustain having to win 3 playoff games and a SB. Do you see sh*tty calling 4 great games in a row ? Has he ever called more then 2 in his life ?

Looking into the future do we want sh*tty calling the offense if we make the playoffs or do we want Callahan ? You say we cant make this move mid season ...WHY ? Its not like some Inexperienced position coach will be taking over. Bill Callahan will be taking over and I dont thiink he has anything to prove.The Jets have to grow some balls and make the right move here too many years of coaching nonsense says its something we MUST DO.

I understand this isnt just one game. I've been extremely critical of Schotty over the years. I dont think he's good at his job. But I dont think firing him midseason is the answer. The offense going into the game, was what the 6th best scoring offense in the league? Something like that. You dont make knee jerk reaction and fire your OC midseason because you got shutout. Its not going to make us better...IMHO.

No, I dont think we light the scoreboard up changing a couple of outcomes on a few plays. However, I think we left easily 14 pts on the board by not finishing plays and probably another 7 on plays we completely missed.

You have to give GB credit. They came ready to play and had their best game of the season. Its on both Rex and Schotty that we werent better prepared, but is on the players for leaving plays that were definitely there for the taking as well.

And I did see adjustments in the 2nd half. We had a great drive that got F'd by a bad pass, dropped ball and then a holding call. We started to look to the 2nd tier of the D, and the plays were there, and werent made. I dont know why we didnt try to establish the running game. Thats my biggest gripe.

There is no excuse for being shutout with 2 weeks to prepare. But everyone gets the blame, not just Schotty.

[JiF]

Do you not see how much predictability effects an offense ? Did you notice that almost every single pass we throw is contested ? Were fooling no one our offense and its direction is a f#cking laughing stock

The offense is predictable. Always has been. However, do you teams not know what the Patriots want to do? How bout the Colts? Did we not know what the Packers were trying to do?

I dont want to fool people on offense, I want to line up and out man them.

[THE ILK]

The offense is predictable. Always has been. However, do you teams not know what the Patriots want to do? How bout the Colts? Did we not know what the Packers were trying to do?

I dont want to fool people on offense, I want to line up and out man them.

Do those teams have a running game like we do?

I want to line up and out man them too, so why were we throwing more in the wind then we were running against the 27th worst run defense?

Not to mention on a day where both the QB and WR's were struggling.

[Smashmouth]

I understand this isnt just one game. I've been extremely critical of Schotty over the years. I dont think he's good at his job. But I dont think firing him midseason is the answer. The offense going into the game, was what the 6th best scoring offense in the league? Something like that. You dont make knee jerk reaction and fire your OC midseason because you got shutout. Its not going to make us better...IMHO.

No, I dont think we light the scoreboard up changing a couple of outcomes on a few plays. However, I think we left easily 14 pts on the board by not finishing plays and probably another 7 on plays we completely missed.

You have to give GB credit. They came ready to play and had their best game of the season. Its on both Rex and Schotty that we werent better prepared, but is on the players for leaving plays that were definitely there for the taking as well.

And I did see adjustments in the 2nd half. We had a great drive that got F'd by a bad pass, dropped ball and then a holding call. We started to look to the 2nd tier of the D, and the plays were there, and werent made. I dont know why we didnt try to establish the running game. Thats my biggest gripe.

There is no excuse for being shutout with 2 weeks to prepare. But everyone gets the blame, not just Schotty.

JIF in yesterdays game I agree with what your saying.... over the long haul I simply do not trust sh*tty in the playoffs its that simple. The guy has Never shown the ability to adjust after half time or during the game and I dont think he ever will. Thats a recipie for losing Playoff Games.

You keep refering to yesterday Im refering to 4 years.

[JiF]

Do those teams have a running game like we do?

I want to line up and out man them too, so why were we throwing more in the wind then we were running against the 27th worst run defense?

Not to mention on a day where both the QB and WR's were struggling.

Thats my point. They are predictable and execute. Its all about the QB. A great QB can make an OC look like a genius.

And I agree, I dont know why we didnt try to establish the run more. I would have liked to seen this as well.

[JiF]

JIF in yesterdays game I agree with what your saying.... over the long haul I simply do not trust sh*tty in the playoffs its that simple. The guy has Never shown the ability to adjust after half time or during the game and I dont think he ever will. Thats a recipie for losing Playoff Games.

You keep refering to yesterday Im refering to 4 years.

No...I'm not referring to yesterdays game. I've said numerous times I've been very critical of Schotty over the years. I used to have it under my avatar "Fire B. Schitt"...but I dont think you do it midseason.

We put up 21 pts, that we easily left on the field, and we arent having this conversation. Thats my opinion.

Does that mean Schotty is good, nope, but thats the way I see it.

[Gastineau Lives]

Destroying them? 5-9 yd catches. Come on man!

Actually he had three catches for 43 yards in the first quarter. That's many! What you said was fewwwwwww. And factually incorrect!

[THE ILK]

Thats my point. They are predictable and execute. Its all about the QB. A great QB can make an OC look like a genius.

And I agree, I dont know why we didnt try to establish the run more. I would have liked to seen this as well.

Do you think being predictable helps the QB's cause?

How many QB's who had 1 year starting in college are great in their 2nd NFL year?

[Klecko73isGod]

Thats my point. They are predictable and execute. Its all about the QB. A great QB can make an OC look like a genius.

And I agree, I dont know why we didnt try to establish the run more. I would have liked to seen this as well.

Well that is on the OC, is it not?

[JiF]

Do you think being predictable helps the QB's cause?

How many QB's who had 1 year starting in college are great in their 2nd NFL year?

I'm not sure what you are trying to get out of me.

I'm not saying Mark should be a HOF Qb at this point in his career. I'm saying he's not very good and its got just as much to do with our offense struggles as our OC.

[Smashmouth]

The offense is predictable. Always has been. However, do you teams not know what the Patriots want to do? How bout the Colts? Did we not know what the Packers were trying to do?

I dont want to fool people on offense, I want to line up and out man them.

JIF its about keeping defenses off balance. We all know teams strengths yet we always see the teams you mention here creating mismatches with one dimentional offenses. We have superior talent on all levels of our offense and fool no one. Thats 100 % on the OC.

How many times do we see Dallas Clark and Austin Collie Running wide open ? How many times do we see mismatches created for Wes Welker ? How many times do we see Jets wide open other than a few Double Moves by Braylon Edwards which were a direct refelction of talent not mismatches ?

Shotty IMHO is DUMB hes a stupid **** riding the coat tales of his father and its time it came to an end. Just like Shulas kid, who hears about him these days ? hes running his fathers f3cking steak houses.

[THE ILK]

I'm not sure what you are trying to get out of me.

I'm not saying Mark should be a HOF Qb at this point in his career. I'm saying he's not very good and its got just as much to do with our offense struggles as our OC.

Who makes the offense predictable?

Who steered away from the run?

How is that helping the QB's cause?

[JiF]

Well that is on the OC, is it not?

I think so. However, we dont know if Sanchez checked off run plays because of something he saw though. Dont think we'll ever know that...and I never said Schotty had a good game or is good, he had a bad game and is bad. But the same can be said about our QB.

The offense sucked yesterday. No one is free of blame.

[THE ILK]

The offense sucked yesterday. No one is free of blame.

Yes, nobody!

[Klecko73isGod]

I think so. However, we dont know if Sanchez checked off run plays because of something he saw though. Dont think we'll ever know that...and I never said Schotty had a good game or is good, he had a bad game and is bad. But the same can be said about our QB.

The offense sucked yesterday. No one is free of blame.

Correct. It's also not time to hit the panic button.

[Smashmouth]

Correct. It's also not time to hit the panic button.

Klecko do you think 4 years of this Idiot is hitting the panic button ? 4 years of total incompetence.

[The Mytee Markjets]

When another team says your offense is predictable thats an open rap on your OC. Ive never seen a team that has its recievers constantly blanketed that the QB always has to throw into tight coverage. Due to the predictability Defenses we face are never off balance and always loose to concentrate on making plays. When you hand a team like Green Bay your play book on a silver platter they are bound to make plays and thats essentally what we did. They are a ball hawking play making defense Just like the Ravens and we simply could not deal with it. See the Trend ?? Who do you face in the playoffs ? Good defenses. How do you guys think its going to go the SECOND time we face Bill Belichick as his defense improves every week ? How do you think its going to be Facing him the next 5 + years after he has a draft with 900 picks ?

Shiotty has no clue how to keep a defense off balance and he has no clue how to use play action. Yesterday was run pass pass...Run Pass pass...run pass pass all freaking day long its was a joke and dont foprget the obvious Reverses and wildcat garbage just when our QB seems to be getting in rhythm its comical at best. We used to be run run pass.... run run pass...run run pass so I guess run pass pass is sh*ttys way of fooling the Defense.

How many times on first down did run for 4 or 5 sometimes 6 yards ? so why not run it again and wear this team down with our O-Line ?? Instead we went into obvious passing formations and never even once called a draw play ? Does sh*tty even know WTF a draw play is ? Have you seen the designed screens he runs ? They are the worst designed screens in the NFL and are almost always flushed out Just like his idiotic reverses and double reverses and The wildcat where Brad Smith takes the ball and runs directly into the middle of the line . WTF is going on here ?

If this team does make the playoffs solely based on talent, eventually in the playoffs we will become predictable and lose. No way this idiot can fool playoff defenses for 3 games in a row NO F0CKIN WAY. YEP were going to have to play 3 games AGAIN because the Pats will win this division. You can bank on that.

You can forget winning a SB with this idiot running the offense. I do believe we have more than enough talent to beat anyone, but if you cant get the amount of talent we have in Mismatches you will never win games when every throw is contested like they were aganist the Ravens and the Packers. This team has played what I would call 1 good game this season (sorry Im not counting Buffalo) and that was aganist the Pats, It was the only truly complete game we played all year.

And just for the record as much as I like Rex Ryan as our head coach I certainly blame him for not recognizing what an Idiot Shottenheimer is. If this team fails YET AGAIN I blame Rex for not stepping forward an giving this pile of horse Shott his walking papers because in the end when you have a glaring weakness its up to the head coach to make a move. This guy has a track record that never had any success in this league, now that hes loaded down with talent he still can not get the job done. ITS TIME REX Do what needs to be done before we lose our actual window to win a SB.

Those of you thinking its a ba move to change OC's mid season need to really think this out. Callahan is already very involved with the Oline and knows all the plays half a season is plenty of time to turn this around and be seasoned for the play offs by slowly converting this offense to what it should be. Thank you. It seems like every year we keep making excuses for shotty. Its time to dump this loser! Our offense looks like a bunch of BS gimmikey, drawn up in the dirt plays. I cant use the word unimaginative, because only and IDIOT like Shotty can imagine this GARBAGE play calling. Our plays SUCK!!!! And for all of the KNOW-IT-ALLS...Thats exactly why Coach Ryan was so FU###ing pissed off!!! We will not be a legit contender with these pop-warner offense!! I cant even write anymore!

[Vicious89x]

I think so. However, we dont know if Sanchez checked off run plays because of something he saw though. Dont think we'll ever know that...and I never said Schotty had a good game or is good, he had a bad game and is bad. But the same can be said about our QB.

The offense sucked yesterday. No one is free of blame.

Honestly I think the best way to sum it up is: Yesterday was the sum of every possible negative offensive possibility all thrown into one game.

-Sanchez was morbid the 1st half. The 2nd half he made some throws.

-Receivers dropped balls/got them stripped.

-Our Playcalling was "predictable"

-Was it just me or did our RB's seem to be falling everytime they seemed primed to break a big run?

-Awful play-calling

If any of those aspects go the right way I think we are talking about a win today. But it didnt' happen, if we get focused and win next week we can end 6-2, halfway through the year. We've always had too many fans far too concerned with what the patriots and dolphins are doing and playing. I seriously could care less about that, all I care about is the way this team plays and I know if we can go 6-2 midway through the year we are putting ourselves in position to make the playoffs again.

Yesterday was an abomination. I won't call it an aberration as I have yet to see the O put it all together, but it was the worst-case scenario.

[JiF]

JIF its about keeping defenses off balance. We all know teams strengths yet we always see the teams you mention here creating mismatches with one dimentional offenses. We have superior talent on all levels of our offense and fool no one. Thats 100 % on the OC.

How many times do we see Dallas Clark and Austin Collie Running wide open ? How many times do we see mismatches created for Wes Welker ? How many times do we see Jets wide open other than a few Double Moves by Braylon Edwards which were a direct refelction of talent not mismatches ?

Shotty IMHO is DUMB hes a stupid **** riding the coat tales of his father and its time it came to an end. Just like Shulas kid, who hears about him these days hes running steak houses.

He's not good. I agree. Never said different. I do think a lot of those mismatches come from being threatened by the QB, which none of our opponents need to feel threatened by our QB, so you dont see as many. Plus, who knows if he'd even be able to recognize them or get the ball there if he did.

Who makes the offense predictable?

Who steered away from the run?

How is that helping the QB's cause?

Fire him!!! Thats the answer. Or maybe we should just install a total gadget offense. That would be fun.