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To spark conversation, is there a problem with the upstairs booth and challenges?

Here is an article I wrote for Bleacher Report on the Jets screwing up challenges the past two games. I posted the whole thing for you guys to read but if you could, please click the link as the site keeps track of article reads affecting the popularity and prominence of an article.

Rex Ryan And The New York Jets Must Address Challenging Issues Moving Forward

Rex Ryan And The New York Jets Must Address Challenging Issues Moving Forward

By Steve Napolitano on November 4, 2010

Going into Sunday's game against the Lions, Rex Ryan and the New York Jets need to evaluate and adjust their approach to challenging plays after back-to-back games with brutal, head-scratching decisions.

In the second quarter of last Sunday's 9-0 loss to the Green Bay Packers, Rex Ryan first challenged a Brad Smith fumble which gave the Packers the ball at their own 29-yard line. Upon seeing the replay, the ball was clearly moving before Smith was down, but Ryan was advised to challenge anyway and the ruling on the field stood up. While questionable at best, the challenge of the fumble looked great when compared to Ryan's challenge later in the quarter.

The next and worst challenge came after Mark Sanchez completed a third down pass to Jerricho Cotchery in which Packers' cornerback Tramon Williams intercepted the ball by ripping it out of Cotchery's hands while both players appeared to have simultaneous possession.

Not an extremely terrible challenge except for one thing- the Jets were challenging to keep possession and punt the ball as Cotchery was eight yards short of the first down marker. This was a no-win scenario for the Jets because even if the call was overturned, they would be punting without any more challenges left.

Needless to say, Ryan lost the second challenge as well leaving him without the ball to punt and no more challenges with 4:48 remaining in the first half.

This is not a one game occurrence for Gang Green as challenges were a problem in the previous game against the Broncos as well.

Video includes the Lloyd catch, the challenge and the Thomas touchdown.

Back in their Week 6 match up in Denver, Rex made a questionable challenge on a 29-yard Brandon Lloyd reception and lost. With 15 yards added after the catch due to a terrible personal foul call on Jim Leonhard, the play that was challenged set up a Denver first down at the Jets 17 late in the third quarter with the game knotted up at 10.

Two plays later, Kyle Orton hit Demaryius Thomas for a 17-yard touchdown pass to give Denver the lead. Rex did not use his second challenge here even though Thomas did not appear to have full possession of the ball before with both feet down in bounds.

There was far more reason to challenge the momentum-shifting touchdown pass than the pass that simply put the Broncos deep in Jets' territory.

Unless the officiating crew really blew the call, which was not the case at all for Lloyd's catch, Rex should have held onto the red flag considering that it was not a game-changing or scoring play.

It is widely believed around the league that scoring plays and game-changing plays should be challenged if there is the slightest chance that they could be overturned because they impact the end result the most. Rex dropped the ball big time on the Thomas touchdown, even though he escaped the Mile-High city with a very fortunate win.

Was Rex wary of using his second challenge on the touchdown pass to Thomas because he had just lost one and did not trust the coaches upstairs enough or did his coaches not think it was worthy of the challenge? Either way, it showed poor judgment on the guys upstairs.

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For NFL head coaches, it is near impossible to determine whether or not a play should be challenged from the sidelines so they must rely on people that they can trust to view the replay upstairs and advise them on the chances of it being overturned or not.

Does Ryan really trust his coaches that are viewing the replays to correctly advise him on challenges? After these past two games, many people do not believe that he should.

Ultimately the decision to challenge falls on Rex's shoulders and if he intends to coach this team deep into the playoffs then he cannot be gun shy about throwing the red flag in a key spot in a big game due to a mistrust in his coaching staff. On the other hand, Ryan cannot continuously waste his challenges as a result of poor suggestions from his staff either. Something must be changed.

Starting this Sunday in Detroit, Rex and the Jets must nip the challenge problem in the bud before it ends up costing them a lot more as the season goes on.

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Maybe the refs should stop botching calls. Funny how the team has to adjust to the stupidity of the NFL. Obviously in the Jets game the Refs botched about 4 calls yet we have to suffer for it. The cotchery challenege aside if they are wrong its basicly a 30 + yard mistake in field position. Both posession calls were wrong nd I hope that POS crew never sniffs another Jets game because they suck.

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To spark conversation, is there a problem with the upstairs booth and challenges?

Here is an article I wrote for Bleacher Report on the Jets screwing up challenges the past two games. I posted the whole thing for you guys to read but if you could, please click the link as the site keeps track of article reads affecting the popularity and prominence of an article.

Rex Ryan And The New York Jets Must Address Challenging Issues Moving Forward

Rex Ryan And The New York Jets Must Address Challenging Issues Moving Forward

By Steve Napolitano on November 4, 2010

Going into Sunday's game against the Lions, Rex Ryan and the New York Jets need to evaluate and adjust their approach to challenging plays after back-to-back games with brutal, head-scratching decisions.

In the second quarter of last Sunday's 9-0 loss to the Green Bay Packers, Rex Ryan first challenged a Brad Smith fumble which gave the Packers the ball at their own 29-yard line. Upon seeing the replay, the ball was clearly moving before Smith was down, but Ryan was advised to challenge anyway and the ruling on the field stood up. While questionable at best, the challenge of the fumble looked great when compared to Ryan's challenge later in the quarter.

The next and worst challenge came after Mark Sanchez completed a third down pass to Jerricho Cotchery in which Packers' cornerback Tramon Williams intercepted the ball by ripping it out of Cotchery's hands while both players appeared to have simultaneous possession.

Not an extremely terrible challenge except for one thing- the Jets were challenging to keep possession and punt the ball as Cotchery was eight yards short of the first down marker. This was a no-win scenario for the Jets because even if the call was overturned, they would be punting without any more challenges left.

Needless to say, Ryan lost the second challenge as well leaving him without the ball to punt and no more challenges with 4:48 remaining in the first half.

This is not a one game occurrence for Gang Green as challenges were a problem in the previous game against the Broncos as well.

Video includes the Lloyd catch, the challenge and the Thomas touchdown.

Back in their Week 6 match up in Denver, Rex made a questionable challenge on a 29-yard Brandon Lloyd reception and lost. With 15 yards added after the catch due to a terrible personal foul call on Jim Leonhard, the play that was challenged set up a Denver first down at the Jets 17 late in the third quarter with the game knotted up at 10.

Two plays later, Kyle Orton hit Demaryius Thomas for a 17-yard touchdown pass to give Denver the lead. Rex did not use his second challenge here even though Thomas did not appear to have full possession of the ball before with both feet down in bounds.

There was far more reason to challenge the momentum-shifting touchdown pass than the pass that simply put the Broncos deep in Jets' territory.

Unless the officiating crew really blew the call, which was not the case at all for Lloyd's catch, Rex should have held onto the red flag considering that it was not a game-changing or scoring play.

It is widely believed around the league that scoring plays and game-changing plays should be challenged if there is the slightest chance that they could be overturned because they impact the end result the most. Rex dropped the ball big time on the Thomas touchdown, even though he escaped the Mile-High city with a very fortunate win.

Was Rex wary of using his second challenge on the touchdown pass to Thomas because he had just lost one and did not trust the coaches upstairs enough or did his coaches not think it was worthy of the challenge? Either way, it showed poor judgment on the guys upstairs.

103976759_crop_340x234 Ronald Martinez/Getty Images

For NFL head coaches, it is near impossible to determine whether or not a play should be challenged from the sidelines so they must rely on people that they can trust to view the replay upstairs and advise them on the chances of it being overturned or not.

Does Ryan really trust his coaches that are viewing the replays to correctly advise him on challenges? After these past two games, many people do not believe that he should.

Ultimately the decision to challenge falls on Rex's shoulders and if he intends to coach this team deep into the playoffs then he cannot be gun shy about throwing the red flag in a key spot in a big game due to a mistrust in his coaching staff. On the other hand, Ryan cannot continuously waste his challenges as a result of poor suggestions from his staff either. Something must be changed.

Starting this Sunday in Detroit, Rex and the Jets must nip the challenge problem in the bud before it ends up costing them a lot more as the season goes on.

Unless the officiating crew really blew the call, which was not the case at all for Lloyd's catch, Rex should have held onto the red flag considering that it was not a game-changing or scoring play.

the officials really did blow the call as it was obvious to anybody who saw the catch.a coupla plays later on the touchdown,rex probably figured'why waste a time out,they are gonna screw us,anyways"

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I get the feeling that rex challanges some of these things cause he refuses to believe it's possible that his team actually screwed up

Probably some truth to that...I didnt truly understand the need to waste all those challenges in a 0-0 game.

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Unless the officiating crew really blew the call, which was not the case at all for Lloyd's catch, Rex should have held onto the red flag considering that it was not a game-changing or scoring play.

the officials really did blow the call as it was obvious to anybody who saw the catch.a coupla plays later on the touchdown,rex probably figured'why waste a time out,they are gonna screw us,anyways"

+1

That Lloyd call was bad. There is no way that was a catch and Megatron's week 1 TD wasn't. Worse, they should have seen that they owed us a give back for the BS personal foul.

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