Brian Schottenheimer: 6 time playcalling champ!

[SenorGato]

Good times. I'm sure there are still many, many complaints to be made, but me I'm a happy guy.

Also:

Dear Jets D,

You're allowed to force turnovers too. Just a reminder. Great units are actually great on the field, and not the just the product of hype and memories of a year ago.

Sincerely,

A fan.

[KSJets]

Good times. I'm sure there are still many, many complaints to be made, but me I'm a happy guy.

Also:

Dear Jets D,

You're allowed to force turnovers too. Just a reminder. Great units are actually great on the field, and not the just the product of hype and memories of a year ago.

Sincerely,

A fan.

You are such a dick.

Sincerely,

JetNation Members

[Greenranger]

Take Schotty's dick out of your mouth before you talk.

[SenorGato]

You are such a dick.

Sincerely,

JetNation Members

The question is:

If I got this note in paper would the ink be smudged and wet from teardrops?

Oh, and also, is it really that bad?

[slats]

Oh, and also, is it really that bad?

You've made some good points fighting the good fight over the course of the season, but when you start calling Schotty great while dissing the dee in the same post, you're starting to get dooshy just for dooshy's sake. I mean yeah, maybe Pettine's group isn't getting takeaways, but is that supposed to somehow absolve the offense turning it over the way they have been the last few weeks?

[SenorGato]

You've made some good points fighting the good fight over the course of the season, but when you start calling Schotty great while dissing the dee in the same post, you're starting to get dooshy just for dooshy's sake. I mean yeah, maybe Pettine's group isn't getting takeaways, but is that supposed to somehow absolve the offense turning it over the way they have been the last few weeks?

The D has given me a reason to think they should be playing at a higher caliber. Namely, they've done it before with less talent.

I'm not bashing the D because I love the offense so much more because of who's f*ckin coaching it...I've seen them play much better, they're 24th in INTs in the whole league when last year they were 13th...Rex Ryan made his money on his D's ability to create turnovers and score...They made the game about having 3 units who can score rather than just 2...This D showed that last year and that's as much a key to the Jets being SB good as the offense getting consistently good.

Also, have you seen the offenses turnovers? They're a bunch of fumbles, strip INTs, and underthrown passes. Aka...sh*t happens moments.

[MasonJet]

You've made some good points fighting the good fight over the course of the season, but when you start calling Schotty great while dissing the dee in the same post, you're starting to get dooshy just for dooshy's sake. I mean yeah, maybe Pettine's group isn't getting takeaways, but is that supposed to somehow absolve the offense turning it over the way they have been the last few weeks?

Great point Slats. The D is not the unit I'm worried about right now. They do have some issues, lack of turnovers being one of them, but the offense has obviously been the main culprit in both losses this season. There is just too much talent on the offense for it to be so inconsistent. I was listening to the game on the radio for most of today, and Wischusen was wondering if the Jets receivers knew they were allowed to run routes longer than 5 yards for most of the first half. Just infuriating.

[SenorGato]

Wasn't the TD in the first half on 74 yard bomb?

Lemme guess...that should happen more often since it happened that once it could have happened a million times before?

[THE ILK]

[SenorGato]

What are these limitations you speak of?

[slats]

The D has given me a reason to think they should be playing at a higher caliber. Namely, they've done it before with less talent.

I'm not bashing the D because I love the offense so much more because of who's f*ckin coaching it...I've seen them play much better, they're 24th in INTs in the whole league when last year they were 13th...Rex Ryan made his money on his D's ability to create turnovers and score...They made the game about having 3 units who can score rather than just 2...This D showed that last year and that's as much a key to the Jets being SB good as the offense getting consistently good.

Also, have you seen the offenses turnovers? They're a bunch of fumbles, strip INTs, and underthrown passes. Aka...sh*t happens moments.

Just telling you that I like the fact that you're taking the unpopular position, but when you ask, "is it that bad?" I figured I'd let you know why it might be.

Jets dee is doing an outstanding job without the takeaways right now. They start getting the sh*t happens moments when they're on the field, they'll be that much better. Overall, I agree it's a problem. I've mentioned it today in other threads, and I've mentioned it before.

Jets are struggling to get to the passer, struggling to close on third down. Those are big problems. The bounces will come. I saw them trying to rip at the football today, but that's a double edged sword. Sometimes you get the takeaway there, and sometimes you just wind up with a missed tackle.

Both sides of the ball need to be reminded of the importance of turnovers, though. They're losing games, or working harder than they should be to win, because they're falling behind in that turnover ratio. That's a problem for the offense and the defense.

[THE ILK]

What are these limitations you speak of?

[Bleedin Green]

I've figured it out, Gato is a spambot! Either that or the biggest troll on JN. Not sure which one yet.

[SenorGato]

Definitely a troll, which apparently has a more complex meaning than I thought.

[Integrity28]

Definitely a troll, which apparently has a more complex meaning than I thought.

Wait... there's something you didn't know already?

[RutgersJetFan]

Wait... there's something you didn't know already?

You know, one time when I was playing baseball in high school and smoking weed, this kid hit a home run off our pitcher, and I was like "hey, why'd that happen?" And he was like, "I dunno." Good times, good times.

[SenorGato]

Wait... there's something you didn't know already?

I'm a know it all because I don't blame the OC when the offense sucks? Do I blame Rex/Pettine when the D gets passed on?

[SMC]

You've made some good points fighting the good fight over the course of the season, but when you start calling Schotty great while dissing the dee in the same post, you're starting to get dooshy just for dooshy's sake. I mean yeah, maybe Pettine's group isn't getting takeaways, but is that supposed to somehow absolve the offense turning it over the way they have been the last few weeks?

Jets Defense:

Total Defense (yds): 7th overall

Scoring Defense (ppg/a): 2nd overall

Jets Offense:

Total Offense (yds): 15th overall

Scoring Offense (ppg/s): 12th overall

Yeah, Gato looks stupid criticizing the defense in defending Schotty. It must be the change in avatars.

[SenorGato]

Jets Defense:

Total Defense (yds): 7th overall

Scoring Defense (ppg/a): 2nd overall

Jets Offense:

Total Offense (yds): 15th overall

Scoring Offense (ppg/s): 12th overall

Yeah, Gato looks stupid criticizing the defense in defending Schotty. It must be the change in avatars.

I'm criticizing the D based on what they did last year compared to this year. I only put it in this Schotty post because I didn't want to make another thread (until I made the Sanchez one). In hindsight, it was poor judgment and a bad playcall.

I also think I've been consistent about the D's lack of big plays...They're not playing poorly, they're just not playing to Rex Ryan standards.

[Jetsfan80]

The Packers defensive players themselves said our playcalling is stale and predictable. Then Sanchez bails Schottenheimer out against the Lions, who have won 4 of their last 31 games. How much f***ing proof do you need?

[RutgersJetFan]

Then Sanchez bails Schottenheimer out against the Lions, who have won 4 of their last 31 games.

The Lions bailed Schottenheimer out against the Lions.

[SenorGato]

You know, one time when I was playing baseball in high school and smoking weed, this kid hit a home run off our pitcher, and I was like "hey, why'd that happen?" And he was like, "I dunno." Good times, good times.

I'm like some character from some movie that probably sucked from lacking Tarantino.

[THE ILK]

The Lions bailed Schottenheimer out against the Lions.

Too bad they were not fooled on those first down runs.

[RutgersJetFan]

I'm like some character from some movie that probably sucked from lacking Tarantino.

[Bleedin Green]

I'm criticizing the D based on what they did last year compared to this year. I only put it in this Schotty post because I didn't want to make another thread (until I made the Sanchez one). In hindsight, it was poor judgment and a bad playcall.

I also think I've been consistent about the D's lack of big plays...They're not playing poorly, they're just not playing to Rex Ryan standards.

NOW it finally all makes sense. You're judging everything on a relative scale. So you're criticizing the defense because they aren't the best in the league like they were last year, despite how well they've played this year. On the flipside, that finally makes some sense for your constant praise of Schottenheimer, because you're comparing it to the epic failure he's been throughout his Jets career through today. So when he calls an even mediocre game you're thinking to yourself "well for him, that's awesome!"

[SenorGato]

Well played, but surely you can come up with a much more vague reference?

[RutgersJetFan]

Well played, but surely you can come up with a much more vague reference?

I considered posting Wiley from Airborne for a second, but then I imagined Jar Jar Binks saying "Bwian Schottenheimah" over and over and it was just too funny not to go with.

[THE ILK]

I considered posting Wiley from Airborne for a second, but then I imagined Jar Jar Binks saying "Bwian Schottenheimah" over and over and it was just too funny not to go with.

Plus he praises Jah, no?

[SenorGato]

I considered posting Wiley from Airborne for a second, but then I imagined Jar Jar Binks saying "Bwian Schottenheimah" over and over and it was just too funny not to go with.

MOAR VAGUE!

[Smashmouth]

Wasn't the TD in the first half on 74 yard bomb?

Lemme guess...that should happen more often since it happened that once it could have happened a million times before?

74 yard bombs are one play and NOT the Product of a well rounded offense. 80 yard drives with 10 plays are the product of a well rounded offense.

[ECURB]

This posts works in every shotty thread... lol

LT run at the tackle

Screen to WR

Empty backfield incomplete

What are the odds that is how this plays out? 8 to 1?

This was from the game thread right before the drive I am pasting below... Shotty is pathetic...

# 1-10-NYJ 16 (11:37) 21-L.Tomlinson up the middle to NYJ 19 for 3 yards (54-D.Levy).

# 2-7-NYJ 19 (11:03) 6-M.Sanchez pass incomplete short left to 17-B.Edwards (98-J.Peterson).

# 3-7-NYJ 19 (10:59) (Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass short middle to 17-B.Edwards to NYJ 22 for 3 yards (98-J.Peterson).

# 4-4-NYJ 22 (10:30) 9-S.Weatherford punts 53 yards to DET 25, Center-46-T.Purdum. 11-S.Logan to DET 37 for 12 yards (34-M.Cole).

[Maxman]

You've made some good points fighting the good fight over the course of the season, but when you start calling Schotty great while dissing the dee in the same post, you're starting to get dooshy just for dooshy's sake. I mean yeah, maybe Pettine's group isn't getting takeaways, but is that supposed to somehow absolve the offense turning it over the way they have been the last few weeks?

Really good post. The Schotty stuff is over the top I know it rubs some people the wrong way. Threads like this though are just asking for it, lol.

[SMC]

I'm criticizing the D based on what they did last year compared to this year. I only put it in this Schotty post because I didn't want to make another thread (until I made the Sanchez one). In hindsight, it was poor judgment and a bad playcall.

I also think I've been consistent about the D's lack of big plays...They're not playing poorly, they're just not playing to Rex Ryan standards.

The D last year didn't cause a lot of turnovers either. This year the Jets D has actually been better at it.

That said, I do agree that the D needs to cause more turnovers. Regardless, that doesn't absolve Schotty from his poor feel for the game or constant substitutions that cause idiotic penalities like Turner failing to de-report as an eligible receiver.

[RutgersJetFan]

The D last year didn't cause a lot of turnovers either. This year the Jets D has actually been better at it.

Not to mention that this time last year they'd crashed in the 4th and cost us 3 or so games.

[SenorGato]

The D last year didn't cause a lot of turnovers either. This year the Jets D has actually been better at it.

That said, I do agree that the D needs to cause more turnovers. Regardless, that doesn't absolve Schotty from his poor feel for the game or constant substitutions that cause idiotic penalities like Turner failing to de-report as an eligible receiver.

I'm sorry...what? The D going into yesterday's game had one more INT than our QB (5 to his 4)...Who saw that coming into the season?

The unit has picked up 12 fumbles on the year...which would put the team on pace to be one under last year's 25 at the end of the season.

So no, they haven't been better at it...If they were then I feel like I'd be giving them props rather than asking for moar. I see nothing wrong with expecting more from the D than we've seen this year, even if they have been pretty good. The D is supposed to be the super unit on the team...It's the one with a true elite player on it...It's the one that's better coached...They're not relying on a 2nd year anybody (let alone most important position)...They're going to be the reason we separate ourselves from the pack...I want to see it come to fruition.