Terrell Suggs: The Pats Championships are FAKE

[JonEJet]

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/vensel/2010/11/suggs_compares_brady_patriots.html

Making an appearance on the Rave TV show "1 Winning Drive," Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs was asked about Tom Brady and the Patriots' 39-26 win over the Steelers on Sunday night. In a bizarre answer, Suggs compared the Patriots to the 2000 movie "Bring It On," in which a cheerleading squad from Rancho Carne High School in San Diego steals routines from a hip-hop squad from East Compton, according to IMBD.

"It was bittersweet. It was bittersweet," Suggs said of watching the Patriots beat the Steelers. "I was thinking last night like, you know, if the Patriots were a movie, they would be “Bring It On.” The Rancho [Carne High School], the cheerleaders, they’d be like ‘Yeah, they’re a good team, but their championships are fake.’”

Terrell Suggs just called the Patriots' three Super Bowl titles fake!

[JonEJet]

Even the players from other teams know it....it's obvious

[SenorGato]

Down with the inventors of cheating in sport!

[CTM]

Haha.. Don't agree at all but homers should get a lot of mileage out of this

[AFJF]

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/vensel/2010/11/suggs_compares_brady_patriots.html

Making an appearance on the Rave TV show "1 Winning Drive," Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs was asked about Tom Brady and the Patriots' 39-26 win over the Steelers on Sunday night. In a bizarre answer, Suggs compared the Patriots to the 2000 movie "Bring It On," in which a cheerleading squad from Rancho Carne High School in San Diego steals routines from a hip-hop squad from East Compton, according to IMBD.

"It was bittersweet. It was bittersweet," Suggs said of watching the Patriots beat the Steelers. "I was thinking last night like, you know, if the Patriots were a movie, they would be “Bring It On.” The Rancho [Carne High School], the cheerleaders, they’d be like ‘Yeah, they’re a good team, but their championships are fake.’”

Terrell Suggs just called the Patriots' three Super Bowl titles fake!

This must be fake. Only Jet fans remember spygate and the rest of the world has moved on...right pats fans?

[Darrellegivesmeaboner#24]

I must applaud any player who can call the Patriots girly cheerleaders and discredit their Superbowl dynasty in the same answer.

[ZachEY]

Awesome!

When does the NFL take the Championships away?

[JonEJet]

Terrell Suggs to the entire Pats fan base

[rillo]

That's my dog! T-sizzle!!

[ZachEY]

Terrell Suggs to the entire Pats fan base

I'm just curious about one thing here.

How big of a bitch slap is it when you admit to not only having seen 'Bring it On', but that you know it well enough to remember the High School's name?

[PatsFanTX]

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/vensel/2010/11/suggs_compares_brady_patriots.html

Making an appearance on the Rave TV show "1 Winning Drive," Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs was asked about Tom Brady and the Patriots' 39-26 win over the Steelers on Sunday night. In a bizarre answer, Suggs compared the Patriots to the 2000 movie "Bring It On," in which a cheerleading squad from Rancho Carne High School in San Diego steals routines from a hip-hop squad from East Compton, according to IMBD.

"It was bittersweet. It was bittersweet," Suggs said of watching the Patriots beat the Steelers. "I was thinking last night like, you know, if the Patriots were a movie, they would be “Bring It On.” The Rancho [Carne High School], the cheerleaders, they’d be like ‘Yeah, they’re a good team, but their championships are fake.’”

Terrell Suggs just called the Patriots' three Super Bowl titles fake!

That's funny coming from you.

For the past 10 years you have been obsessed with the Pats success.

You get a huge hard-on every negative story about the Pats.

Why don't you go out and find a girlfriend or wife to take care of that?

[T0mShane]

What was funny about SpyGate was how fast Goodell destroyed the tapes and how closed-mouth every other team in the league was because every other team in the league likely had a similar program going on. Hell, Parcells probably invented the thing. To think it was only the Pats is naive, imo.

[Larz]

That's funny coming from you.

For the past 10 years you have been obsessed with the Pats success.

You get a huge hard-on every negative story about the Pats.

Why don't you go out and find a girlfriend or wife to take care of that?

says the 50 year old guy with what, 20,000 combined troll posts on jets message boards ?

the stain never goes away

chowds will be on the defensive for the rest of their lives

chicago black sox

mark mcgwire

shady brady and bill belicheat

[Child please]

That's funny coming from you.

For the past 10 years you have been obsessed with the Pats success.

You get a huge hard-on every negative story about the Pats.

Why don't you go out and find a girlfriend or wife to take care of that?

Says the man who spends his entire waking life on jet message boards. What an idiot.

Suggs you da man, they the Barry Bonds of the NFL.

[JetsFanInDenver]

What was funny about SpyGate was how fast Goodell destroyed the tapes and how closed-mouth every other team in the league was because every other team in the league likely had a similar program going on. Hell, Parcells probably invented the thing. To think it was only the Pats is naive, imo.

If every other team had a similar program why weren't they fined like the Pats team and HC were ?

All other teams are close mouthed and those tapes destroyed b/c it will not be good for business. Who wants to follow a sport where the championship was won by cheating. It would turn off a lot of fans except probably the die hard ones. So the scame was buried quickly and nobody in position of power in the NFL says a word about it.

[JetsFanInDenver]

That's funny coming from you.

For the past 10 years you have been obsessed with the Pats success.

You get a huge hard-on every negative story about the Pats.

Why don't you go out and find a girlfriend or wife to take care of that?

That's funny coming from you.

Last i checked he was a JETS fan on a JETS board.

Not some troll who spends a ton of time on a opposing teams board. Speak about obsession!

[PatsFanTX]

What was funny about SpyGate was how fast Goodell destroyed the tapes and how closed-mouth every other team in the league was because every other team in the league likely had a similar program going on. Hell, Parcells probably invented the thing. To think it was only the Pats is naive, imo.

Jets fans say I suck, and that's OK.

But I want to say the "new" TonShane sucks as well.

Garb is right, where the hell is the guy that brought Pats fans in droves over to JN in 2004?

And don't tell me Cimini ruined your life.

[T0mShane]

Jets fans say I suck, and that's OK.

But I want to say the "new" TonShane sucks as well.

Garb is right, where the hell is the guy that brought Pats fans in droves over to JN in 2004?

And don't tell me Cimini ruined your life.

Well, this was all kinds of non-sequitur.

[Larz]

If every other team had a similar program why weren't they fined like the Pats team and HC were ?

All other teams are close mouthed and those tapes destroyed b/c it will not be good for business. Who wants to follow a sport where the championship was won by cheating. It would turn off a lot of fans except probably the die hard ones. So the scame was buried quickly and nobody in position of power in the NFL says a word about it.

yup

don't forget the other things that were swirling around :

extra frequency. what was that for ? talking to brady after the headsets are supposed to go dead ?

sending guys into opponents locker rooms after halftime to look at white boards

opponents QB's headsets going dead at end of game drives at ratsboro. how convenient. since both teams have to shut off headsets in that case, no harm to the pats while the D is out there

they had some guy on staff who like a savant with lip reading or hand signs or something, some guy who had no football skills but was on the payroll ( like bradway kinda)

you know what's sad ? belicheat grew up braking down film for his dad while his dad was the a coach at the united states military acadamy at annapolis

you know, the whole honor code thing

what a crushing blow it must have been to the old man when his son turned out to be a cheatah

and you know what's worse ? when you grow up breaking down film for dad, you don't have to cheat to be good

but belicheat just didn't have the character to do it the right way

[PatsFanTX]

Well, this was all kinds of non-sequitur.

There goes the "new" TomShane again.

Let's have a little "revisionist" TomShane, circa 2004.

Garb is absolutey correct, just like she always is.

[slats]

Garb is absolutey correct, just like she always is.

I wish she was. She picks the Pats to lose every week.

[Pyper]

The sad thing is that the footage was never used "to cheat". BB discovered a very clever way to use the footage in order to predict the tendencies of opposing coaches audibles. It was all about deciphering which audibles opposing coaches would call and in what situations. As the commissioner acknowledged, it really was utilized for "advanced scouting" purposes. The problem is that the manner in which it was used is far to complex to be communicated on television or even be understood by an American public who's average IQ score doesn't even top three digits. Complexity is not something easily that's easily transmitted through media. That's why every media message is reduced to its simplest (and most shallow) level.

So yeah, BB broke a rule. Not a rule that was highlighted in bold letters but rather one that was part of a ten page document consisting of logistical issues dealing with stadium parking and food concessions. Spygate was an overblown misunderstood media creation that was used to or try to bring down a man who is known to be an "enemy" of media. Why is he an enemy of media? B/c he (correctly) believes that the best way to ensure success on the field is to limit distractions for his players and keep them focused on the game they play whereas the media cares far more about off field controvercies and soap opera drama than they do about the actual game.

As a fan, what do you care about? Do you like reading articles about Brett Favre, TO, and all the other divas seeking media attention or do you just want to read an intelligent analysis about the actual game of football?

If it's the latter, then you need to realize that Belichick fights for your cause. His enemy is in fact your enemy. Stop allowing yourself to be manipulated by stupidity. But, alas, we are a stupid people and therefore being manipulated by stupidity is an unavoidable certainty......Unfortunately.

It's the same way with politics. As BB would say...."It is what it is"

[Larz]

The sad thing is that the footage was never used "to cheat". BB discovered a very clever way to use the footage in order to predict the tendencies of opposing coaches audibles. It was all about deciphering which audibles opposing coaches would call and in what situations. As the commissioner acknowledged, it really was utilized for "advanced scouting" purposes. The problem is that the manner in which it was used is far to complex to be communicated on television or even be understood by an American public who's average IQ score doesn't even top three digits. Complexity is not something easily that's easily transmitted through media. That's why every media message is reduced to its simplest (and most shallow) level.

So yeah, BB broke a rule. Not a rule that was highlighted in bold letters but rather one that was part of a ten page document consisting of logistical issues dealing with stadium parking and food concessions. Spygate was an overblown misunderstood media creation that was used to or try to bring down a man who is known to be an "enemy" of media. Why is he an enemy of media? B/c he (correctly) believes that the best way to ensure success on the field is to limit distractions for his players and keep them focused on the game they play whereas the media cares far more about off field controvercies and soap opera drama than they do about the actual game.

As a fan, what do you care about? Do you like reading articles about Brett Favre, TO, and all the other divas seeking media attention or do you just want to read an intelligent analysis about the actual game of football?

If it's the latter, then you need to realize that Belichick fights for your cause. His enemy is in fact your enemy. Stop allowing yourself to be manipulated by stupidity. But, alas, we are a stupid people and therefore being manipulated by stupidity is an unavoidable certainty......Unfortunately.

It's the same way with politics. As BB would say...."It is what it is"

LO ******* L

and that's what leads to evidence being destroyed, a record fine and the loss of a 1st round pick

whatever helps you sleep at night

I notice chowds never reply to the other cheating allegations

[Maxman]

Tom puts up something that is kind of good for the Patriots and Tx blasts him. Wow that is interesting...

[RutgersJetFan]

edit

[greeniemeanie]

The sad thing is that the footage was never used "to cheat". BB discovered a very clever way to use the footage in order to predict the tendencies of opposing coaches audibles. It was all about deciphering which audibles opposing coaches would call and in what situations. As the commissioner acknowledged, it really was utilized for "advanced scouting" purposes. The problem is that the manner in which it was used is far to complex to be communicated on television or even be understood by an American public who's average IQ score doesn't even top three digits. Complexity is not something easily that's easily transmitted through media. That's why every media message is reduced to its simplest (and most shallow) level.

So yeah, BB broke a rule. Not a rule that was highlighted in bold letters but rather one that was part of a ten page document consisting of logistical issues dealing with stadium parking and food concessions. Spygate was an overblown misunderstood media creation that was used to or try to bring down a man who is known to be an "enemy" of media. Why is he an enemy of media? B/c he (correctly) believes that the best way to ensure success on the field is to limit distractions for his players and keep them focused on the game they play whereas the media cares far more about off field controvercies and soap opera drama than they do about the actual game.

As a fan, what do you care about? Do you like reading articles about Brett Favre, TO, and all the other divas seeking media attention or do you just want to read an intelligent analysis about the actual game of football?

If it's the latter, then you need to realize that Belichick fights for your cause. His enemy is in fact your enemy. Stop allowing yourself to be manipulated by stupidity. But, alas, we are a stupid people and therefore being manipulated by stupidity is an unavoidable certainty......Unfortunately.

It's the same way with politics. As BB would say...."It is what it is"

Pyper,

I have to commend you on your well thought out take on the "cheating" allegations. What you are saying makes sense. However, there are things that NFL personnel can control, and there are things that they cannot. Following the rules of the governing body that you are employed by, is certainly in the control of BB. Controlling the media is not.

If Belichick figured out a "clever: way to do "advanced scouting" as you call it, it is still his responsibility to ensure that it is not in violation of the NFL rules. Just like in legal matters, ignorance of the law is no excuse, it is also no excuse in this matter. Did this "advanced scouting" give him an UNFAIR competitive advantage over other teams? Yes it did. The complexity of the offense does not dictate the severity. The injustice perpetrated on the opposing teams does.

I do agree on your points about the media. IT IS ALL YELLOW JOURNALISM THESE DAYS.

Let's not go into politics, although from your post, I am sure we have a lot in common.

[RutgersJetFan]

I'm just curious about one thing here.

How big of a bitch slap is it when you admit to not only having seen 'Bring it On', but that you know it well enough to remember the High School's name?

Mean Girls > Bring It On

[dbatesman]

The sad thing is that the footage was never used "to cheat". BB discovered a very clever way to use the footage in order to predict the tendencies of opposing coaches audibles. It was all about deciphering which audibles opposing coaches would call and in what situations. As the commissioner acknowledged, it really was utilized for "advanced scouting" purposes. The problem is that the manner in which it was used is far to complex to be communicated on television or even be understood by an American public who's average IQ score doesn't even top three digits. Complexity is not something easily that's easily transmitted through media. That's why every media message is reduced to its simplest (and most shallow) level.

So yeah, BB broke a rule. Not a rule that was highlighted in bold letters but rather one that was part of a ten page document consisting of logistical issues dealing with stadium parking and food concessions. Spygate was an overblown misunderstood media creation that was used to or try to bring down a man who is known to be an "enemy" of media. Why is he an enemy of media? B/c he (correctly) believes that the best way to ensure success on the field is to limit distractions for his players and keep them focused on the game they play whereas the media cares far more about off field controvercies and soap opera drama than they do about the actual game.

As a fan, what do you care about? Do you like reading articles about Brett Favre, TO, and all the other divas seeking media attention or do you just want to read an intelligent analysis about the actual game of football?

If it's the latter, then you need to realize that Belichick fights for your cause. His enemy is in fact your enemy. Stop allowing yourself to be manipulated by stupidity. But, alas, we are a stupid people and therefore being manipulated by stupidity is an unavoidable certainty......Unfortunately.

It's the same way with politics. As BB would say...."It is what it is"

Wow. I've always fancied myself something of a grandmaster in the gentle arts of sneering derision and pathological self-aggrandizement, but this post leaves me in the dust. Golf clap.

[madmikeisback]

That's funny coming from you.

For the past 10 years you have been obsessed with the Pats success.

You get a huge hard-on every negative story about the Pats.

Why don't you go out and find a girlfriend or wife to take care of that?

Says the loser who posts on a site where he's hated day and night. HAHA. Pot meet kettle.

[The Crusher]

The sad thing is that the footage was never used "to cheat". BB discovered a very clever way to use the footage in order to predict the tendencies of opposing coaches audibles. It was all about deciphering which audibles opposing coaches would call and in what situations. As the commissioner acknowledged, it really was utilized for "advanced scouting" purposes. The problem is that the manner in which it was used is far to complex to be communicated on television or even be understood by an American public who's average IQ score doesn't even top three digits. Complexity is not something easily that's easily transmitted through media. That's why every media message is reduced to its simplest (and most shallow) level.

So yeah, BB broke a rule. Not a rule that was highlighted in bold letters but rather one that was part of a ten page document consisting of logistical issues dealing with stadium parking and food concessions. Spygate was an overblown misunderstood media creation that was used to or try to bring down a man who is known to be an "enemy" of media. Why is he an enemy of media? B/c he (correctly) believes that the best way to ensure success on the field is to limit distractions for his players and keep them focused on the game they play whereas the media cares far more about off field controvercies and soap opera drama than they do about the actual game.

As a fan, what do you care about? Do you like reading articles about Brett Favre, TO, and all the other divas seeking media attention or do you just want to read an intelligent analysis about the actual game of football?

If it's the latter, then you need to realize that Belichick fights for your cause. His enemy is in fact your enemy. Stop allowing yourself to be manipulated by stupidity. But, alas, we are a stupid people and therefore being manipulated by stupidity is an unavoidable certainty......Unfortunately.

It's the same way with politics. As BB would say...."It is what it is"

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You are awesome at being full of sh*t. Every porta potty manufacture in the world should pay you royalties per turd.

[Pyper]

Pyper,

I have to commend you on your well thought out take on the "cheating" allegations. What you are saying makes sense. However, there are things that NFL personnel can control, and there are things that they cannot. Following the rules of the governing body that you are employed by, is certainly in the control of BB. Controlling the media is not.

If Belichick figured out a "clever: way to do "advanced scouting" as you call it, it is still his responsibility to ensure that it is not in violation of the NFL rules. Just like in legal matters, ignorance of the law is no excuse, it is also no excuse in this matter. Did this "advanced scouting" give him an UNFAIR competitive advantage over other teams? Yes it did. The complexity of the offense does not dictate the severity. The injustice perpetrated on the opposing teams does.

Thanks Greenie,

I thought for sure I would be attacked for my view. I mostly agree with what you said but I don't think enough fans recognize "the culture of the NFL". Competitive gamesmanship in this sport goes back further than the forward pass. Was it a coincidence that opposing team radios malfunctioned in the beginning of every big game while Bill Walsh made sure to script the first 20 plays for his offense? Parcells used to open up the tunnels to allow the wind to play tricks while opposing kickers attempted FG's. There are rules about talking to players under contract but its common knowledge that it happens all the time. There are rules governing the injury report yet every coach in the league stretches those rules from time to time in situations where supplying the correct info would put their team in a competitive disadvantage. So yes there are rules but the culture of the NFL for decades has been to know the "important" rules and know when to stretch the "trivial" rules. Belichick rationalized that b/c he wasn't using the footage in the manner specifically prohibited by rule, and in fact had come up with a creative new use for the footage.....That he was, at worst, guilty of a minor transgression. Belichick's fatal flaw was in underestimating the power of his enemy......The media.

In reality, the media isn't really his enemy as much as its the other way around. In any case, he underestimated the hoopla his transgression would cause. It's a shame b/c this misperception of the masses really has tarnished the hard fought/hard earned accomplishments that he, his coaches, and all his players have achieved. That was a special team and to be denied of that in the minds of so many is truly, truly sad. At the end of the day, regardless of how he used the footage, he's got nobody to blame but himself. I believe the only way he can repair this damage is to win more Super Bowls. If he never wins another Super Bowl, in the minds of many, a dark cloud will hang over all his previous accomplishments. If he can repeat his previous success again, he proves that spygate was a whole lot of nonsense about nothing.

[AFJF]

The sad thing is that the footage was never used "to cheat". BB discovered a very clever way to use the footage in order to predict the tendencies of opposing coaches audibles. It was all about deciphering which audibles opposing coaches would call and in what situations. As the commissioner acknowledged, it really was utilized for "advanced scouting" purposes. The problem is that the manner in which it was used is far to complex to be communicated on television or even be understood by an American public who's average IQ score doesn't even top three digits. Complexity is not something easily that's easily transmitted through media. That's why every media message is reduced to its simplest (and most shallow) level.

So yeah, BB broke a rule. Not a rule that was highlighted in bold letters but rather one that was part of a ten page document consisting of logistical issues dealing with stadium parking and food concessions. Spygate was an overblown misunderstood media creation that was used to or try to bring down a man who is known to be an "enemy" of media. Why is he an enemy of media? B/c he (correctly) believes that the best way to ensure success on the field is to limit distractions for his players and keep them focused on the game they play whereas the media cares far more about off field controvercies and soap opera drama than they do about the actual game.

As a fan, what do you care about? Do you like reading articles about Brett Favre, TO, and all the other divas seeking media attention or do you just want to read an intelligent analysis about the actual game of football?

If it's the latter, then you need to realize that Belichick fights for your cause. His enemy is in fact your enemy. Stop allowing yourself to be manipulated by stupidity. But, alas, we are a stupid people and therefore being manipulated by stupidity is an unavoidable certainty......Unfortunately.

It's the same way with politics. As BB would say...."It is what it is"

I agree, complexity is not easily to easily understand for stoopid people.

[THE ILK]

Their championships are real, they even have their own cereal!

[CTM]

The sad thing is that the footage was never used "to cheat". BB discovered a very clever way to use the footage in order to predict the tendencies of opposing coaches audibles. It was all about deciphering which audibles opposing coaches would call and in what situations. As the commissioner acknowledged, it really was utilized for "advanced scouting" purposes. The problem is that the manner in which it was used is far to complex to be communicated on television or even be understood by an American public who's average IQ score doesn't even top three digits. Complexity is not something easily that's easily transmitted through media. That's why every media message is reduced to its simplest (and most shallow) level.

So yeah, BB broke a rule. Not a rule that was highlighted in bold letters but rather one that was part of a ten page document consisting of logistical issues dealing with stadium parking and food concessions. Spygate was an overblown misunderstood media creation that was used to or try to bring down a man who is known to be an "enemy" of media. Why is he an enemy of media? B/c he (correctly) believes that the best way to ensure success on the field is to limit distractions for his players and keep them focused on the game they play whereas the media cares far more about off field controvercies and soap opera drama than they do about the actual game.

As a fan, what do you care about? Do you like reading articles about Brett Favre, TO, and all the other divas seeking media attention or do you just want to read an intelligent analysis about the actual game of football?

If it's the latter, then you need to realize that Belichick fights for your cause. His enemy is in fact your enemy. Stop allowing yourself to be manipulated by stupidity. But, alas, we are a stupid people and therefore being manipulated by stupidity is an unavoidable certainty......Unfortunately.

It's the same way with politics. As BB would say...."It is what it is"

to long. didn't read.

tom shane is right

[THE ILK]

DON'T BAIT THE TROLLS!!!

YOU ARE RUINING MY JN EXPERIENCE!!!

I'M LOOKING AT YOU THE BROOKLYN JET!!!

/T0mShane'd