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The Jets got their a$$ handed to them...but I'm kind of relieved it wasn't close because this would ticked me off to no end:

Fairly certain the Patriots committed zero penalties last night, which isn't possible.

Also,

The Patriots were awarded a re-do on their first possession on a blatant false start. Like, ok.

Brady's throw out of bounds was a blatant intentional grounding. Apparently doing three pirouettes in the pocket counts as leaving the pocket.

Sanchez's sneak was a first down. One ref had a completely different spot than the other. No explanation from the ref after thew review.

Sanchez was blatantly speared in the head. If that happened to Brady,suspensions, fines, loss of draft picks would ensue.

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All true.

But I also saw Holmes drop passes, then Sanches threw bad passes which Holmes also dropped. I also Sanchez reminding receivers to get out of bounds to save clock. (as if an nfl receiver needs to be told to get out of bounds to save clock)

I also saw Sanchez throw 2 beautiful perfect-spiral "right on the numbers" passes directly to the other team.

And despite a few good runs, I also heard the all-too-common phrase "It's Greene.....for about 2".

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The Jets got their a$ handed to them...but I'm kind of relieved it wasn't close because this would ticked me off to no end:

Fairly certain the Patriots committed zero penalties last night, which isn't possible.

Also,

The Patriots were awarded a re-do on their first possession on a blatant false start. Like, ok.

Brady's throw out of bounds was a blatant intentional grounding. Apparently doing three pirouettes in the pocket counts as leaving the pocket.

Sanchez's sneak was a first down. One ref had a completely different spot than the other. No explanation from the ref after thew review.

Sanchez was blatantly speared in the head. If that happened to Brady,suspensions, fines, loss of draft picks would ensue.

I thought it was a false start also. I rewound the tape. It wasnt. Brady was calling signals when the center snapped the ball. No one moved before the ball was snapped.

My only complaint was the Sanchez sneak. I understood the spot on the field, but after review it was clear he was further up. Still felt he was short, but it would have saved a challenge and a timeout.

But Im not going to sit here and bitch about the refs. They make mistakes every game, even ones that benefit us. The calls last night were no different than any other game. But hey, we love playing conspiracy theory here on JN!

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Don't forget Trevor Pryce being gang tackled by four Patriots right in front of an official yet no flag was thrown.

Should have been a flag on a Dustin Keller play also... and there should have been a holding flag on one of the touchdowns. I know there is holding on every play but that was ridiculous.

If it wasn't for the refs this game would have been much different.

We would have only lost by 21...

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Then it's a play. What the **** were the whistles for?

Totally right, once again we have to preface anything in this thread with,"it wouldn't have changed the outcome" but when did we start awarding do-overs? It's either a live play at that point or a penalty right? Seriously if someone can correct me here I'll admit I'm wrong but WTF was that?

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My only complaint was the Sanchez sneak. I understood the spot on the field, but after review it was clear he was further up. Still felt he was short, but it would have saved a challenge and a timeout.

I agree with the spot but I believe if the respot did not result in a first down then the Jets would have still been charged a timeout. I remember a few challenges like this in the past where teams were still charged a TO because the new spot still did not result in a first down. Still should have NEVER been challenged.

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everyones saying Rex's challenge was dumb... the spot was atrocious. His knee never went down, even if they say he's not at the 47 he's at the 46 and a half and it's still 4th down it was a winning challenge.

I know this isnt an official rule book but I got this from Wiki..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_replay_in_American_and_Canadian_football

Note that the spot of the ball may be challenged in certain cases. In such cases, a decision to respot the football is not enough to win the challenge; Only when the ball is respotted AND the ruling on the field is reversed by remeasurement is the challenging team not charged a timeout.

I also found an example in the Giants vs Panthers game earlier this year where the Panthers got the spot moved but was still charged a TO because the new spot did not result in a first down.

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I also found an example in the Giants vs Panthers game earlier this year where the Panthers got the spot moved but was still charged a TO because the new spot did not result in a first down.

I was wondering about that myself. That's kind of a BS rule. You're challenging the spot of the football, not whether or not it resulted in a 1st down.

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The Jets got their a$$ handed to them...but I'm kind of relieved it wasn't close because this would ticked me off to no end:

Fairly certain the Patriots committed zero penalties last night, which isn't possible.

Also,

The Patriots were awarded a re-do on their first possession on a blatant false start. Like, ok.

Brady's throw out of bounds was a blatant intentional grounding. Apparently doing three pirouettes in the pocket counts as leaving the pocket.

Sanchez's sneak was a first down. One ref had a completely different spot than the other. No explanation from the ref after thew review.

Sanchez was blatantly speared in the head. If that happened to Brady,suspensions, fines, loss of draft picks would ensue.

The pats did get that offensive pass interference by Branch, but that was probably their only penalty. Our team just didn't come to compete last night. We talked a lot, but came up flat in all phases.

Week 2's win sure looked like a distant memory after watching last nights game.

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The Jets got their a$$ handed to them...but I'm kind of relieved it wasn't close because this would ticked me off to no end:

Fairly certain the Patriots committed zero penalties last night, which isn't possible.

Also,

The Patriots were awarded a re-do on their first possession on a blatant false start. Like, ok.

Brady's throw out of bounds was a blatant intentional grounding. Apparently doing three pirouettes in the pocket counts as leaving the pocket.

Sanchez's sneak was a first down. One ref had a completely different spot than the other. No explanation from the ref after thew review.

Sanchez was blatantly speared in the head. If that happened to Brady,suspensions, fines, loss of draft picks would ensue.

you must have missed the meeting...Bellicheat lets Goodell and the officials nibble on his teets in exchange for good calls...Its all good though, other teams in the league are on to them

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I'd like an answer from the league on to why the Patriots were awarded a "do-over" when Brady snapped the ball early.

That call and the non grounding were just comically ridiculous.

Those and the Price hold just reinforced that feeling of "this is THE worst case scenario."

We got thoroughly outclassed without the calls, no denying that. They were just another indignity in a sh*t avalanche.

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Don't forget Trevor Pryce being gang tackled by four Patriots right in front of an official yet no flag was thrown.

The most egregious one I saw happened on the sanchez roll-out that became a 9 yard run - Keller was releasing into a pattern and got clotheslined and tackled. Even the Pats fans next to me agreed that was a penalty.

But yeah, 45-3. We could have gotten all those calls and more, and the outcome (if not, possibly, the score) would have been the same.

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The most egregious one I saw happened on the sanchez roll-out that became a 9 yard run - Keller was releasing into a pattern and got clotheslined and tackled. Even the Pats fans next to me agreed that was a penalty.

But yeah, 45-3. We could have gotten all those calls and more, and the outcome (if not, possibly, the score) would have been the same.

Yep. Saw that one too.

I understand we wouldn't have won had all the proper calls been made. It's just gotta be demoralizing when the Pats have a delay of game on the third play of the game and the refs wave it off and then three plays later no call intentional grounding.

You've gotta be thinking to yourself "looks like we playing against two teams tonight."

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everyones saying Rex's challenge was dumb... the spot was atrocious. His knee never went down, even if they say he's not at the 47 he's at the 46 and a half and it's still 4th down it was a winning challenge.

Wrong

If respotting ball does not result in a 1st down is a losing challenge.

What happened is Rex wasn't sure whether or not to go for it and he was going to call to anyway so he just challenged

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Wilfork manhandling Keller, grabbing him by the neck.

The block on the back against Brad Smith... nonsense.

The spotting of the ball on that 4th down was just atrocious. They were basically saying he gained NOTHING. How can you see that replay and not say he gained a yard there. He gained AT LEAST his body size worth of ground there.

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How about when Idhegbo(sp?) got hurt? Maybe I was just pissed at that point, but quite frankly that looked pretty intentional and sinister to me. Like I said, I could have very well just been pissed off and looking for something to complain about, but it looked bad at the time either way.

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Am I the only one that noticed Woodhead's obvious pass interference on the TD before Branch was called for the same thing? Guy was pretty much blocking our corner before Brady even released the ball...

This I saw... ironic how they called something similar when the pass wasn't completed but at probably the most critical part of the game, they let it go on 4th and 3.

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