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The Pats right now would hold the third tie breaker for two teams in the divison. (Common Opponents)


If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).

Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.

Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.

Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

Strength of victory.

Strength of schedule.

Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

Best net points in common games.

Best net points in all games.

Best net touchdowns in all games.

Coin toss

The bold is where the Pats hold the edge right now. New England is 7-1, Jets 6-2

Here is what is left

New England: Chicago, Green Bay, Buff, Mia

Jets: Chicago, Pittsburgh, Buff, Mia

Every game is huge for the Jets. Not only do you have two division games that could break a potential tie, every game from here on in works the third tie breaker which is common opponents.

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Yup, but if their only loss comes to the Bears then we have the same common opponent record AND the same conference record. Not sure who wins "strength of victory" but I'd assume it's the Pats.

That would be hilarious if we finish 13-3 and then STILL come second to strength of ******* vistory. Would be a pure SOJ statistic.

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If the Pats lose to BUF or MIA we're in.

If they lose to GB or CHI, it comes down to strength of victory. Strength of V is not the # of points you score, but the record of the teams you beat...

The Jets have beat NE (10), MIA (6), BUF (2), MIN (5), DEN (3), DET (2), CLE (5), HOU (5), CIN (2), [ MIA (6), PIT (9), CHI (8), BUF (2) ] : 63

NE: CIN (2), BUF (2), MIA (6), BAL (8), SD (5), MIN (5), PIT (9), IND (7), DET (2), NYJ (9), [CHI (8), GB (8), BUF (2), MIA (6)] : 77 (take 1 of the remaining 4 away if they lose 1)

So really, if the Pats lose to CHI or GI, they are at 69, which means in the next 4 weeks we would need teams we beat (CLE, DEN, HOU) to win 6 more times than the guys the Pats beat (BAL, SD, IND). That doesn't happen, so I can't see us winning SOV

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thanks for all the great info, couldn't of asked for more information than that! thanks, that clears up everything. lets prey Buffalo plays the pats like they did the steelers.

This stuff is going to be crystal clear after the Pats play the Bears and Packers and the Jets play the Dolphins and Steelers.

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If we win out, and NE loses one game.. we both end with 13-3 records. who would win the division?

all I keep hearing is wild card talk and I've been wondering about this for days.

If the Jets win out, they need the Pats to lose to Buffalo or Miami. They'll win the tie-breaker due to a better division record.

If the Pats lose to either the Bears or Packers, the Pats will win the tie breaker due to strength of victory. The two teams share many of the same wins. The deciding differences in this scenario are:

1) Pats beat Baltimore (8-4) while Jets beat Cleveland (5-7) = 3 game adv for Pats

2) Pats beat Indy (7-6) while Jets beat Houston (5-7) = 1.5 game adv for Pats

3) Pats beat SD (6-6) while Jets beat Denver (3-9) = 3 game adv for Pats

That adds up to a 7.5 game lead for Pats. While that number can certainly change from now until the end of the season, it is a pretty big number to completely overcome in just four weeks. Jets fans need to root for Cleveland, Houston, and Denver to win out and for Baltimore, Indy, and SD to lose.

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