Integrity28 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 This isn't exactly Rich Kotite here. The guy's is a legitimate coach with some success and a decent enough resume to get a crack on somebody else's staff who's looking to boost his defense, even if it's just as a glorified DB coach. It would do Eric well to work under a coach who hasn't sold his soul to Satan for the right to win football games--learn a new perspective on how to prepare a team, connect with players, discipline them and motivate them. I think Eric's major issue has always been that he tries to replicate what Belichick does with his players, but without Belichick's winning pedigree or the 40 years spent watching game film. Someobody will hire him as an assistant--Gruden?--and he'll get another HC chance down the road. If another team wanted to improve their defense, then it'd be in their best interests to hire Rob Ryan. Because Ryan's defense in CLE was probably the best D that Mangini could ever claim responsibility for. He was horrid here, and horrid in his 1 year as DC in NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 This isn't exactly Rich Kotite here. Rich Kotite - 40-56 .417 Career W%, 1-1 postseason Eric Mangini - 33-17 .413 Career W% 0-1 postseason Just sayin.' Comparison aside, I agree with Gato on Mangini's need to go to the college ranks. Above all, he needs to win games on any level. He needs to build himself up again. Have a string of successful years away from the pro game and then come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Above all, he needs to win games on any level. Need ≠ Ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Getting hired so fast hurt him. He needed a year or so in between jobs so he could grow so to speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Getting hired so fast hurt him. He needed a year or so in between jobs so he could grow so to speak... Perhaps. But what if he became a DC for a few seasons and that team finished in the bottom half in defense 2-3 years in a row, or if they never improved, or if they flat-out got even worse? There's a good chance that no one would ever make him a HC offer again. Cleveland came knocking like 5 minutes after the Jets canned him and unless you know you're in high demand - or unless you know you're just that good of a coordinator at least that you'll easily rebuild your HC resume in a year or two - you take that HC job every time. Look no further than Brian Schottenheimer. Once one of the big, up-and-coming HC names. Now I doubt there's a team in the league that would make him their HC (outside of Oakland but only because they're just that unpredictably stupid). I don't know if he turned down Miami, but he did take his name out of the running after interviewing there, and then declined interviewing in Buffalo. Now these were 2 division rivals who needed HC's and would have a greater demand for a Jets coordinator for competitive advantage reasons within the division. Did anyone else interview him? Not that I can recall. And now that "one of the game's brilliant young minds" stuff they once wrote about him seems to have dried up and his own dad - the very reason he has an NFL job in the first place - got sh*tcanned after a 14-2 season with no one banging down his door either (teams finally realized he hadn't overseen a playoff win since the 1993 season). The point is he has to take the opportunities when they presented themselves (like when the Jets first hired him). More likely than not, for most of these up-and-comer types - that Mangini once was - those opportunities do not arise again. These 2 opportunities took him from a 1-year DC who oversaw the Pats' worst defensive showing under Belichick into a HC who made about $9M in 3 years with the Jets and another $8M in 2 years with Cleveland (plus Cleveland still probably owes him $8M over the next 2 years unless Mangini gets another HC gig before that). Plus after some time in the college ranks or as a positional coach/coordinator in the NFL he'll probably get another shot at an NFL HC gig, though that's unlikely a job he'll land within the next 4-5 years. But if he never came to the Jets in the first place, maybe he never gets a HC shot in the first place. All in all, not bad for a guy who turns 40 in a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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