CrazyCarl40 53,248 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6120676 CC Sabathia could still opt out By Andrew Marchand ESPNNewYork.com TAMPA, Fla. -- In a reversal that could further complicate the New York Yankees pitching future, CC Sabathia has changed course and has left the door open to opt out of his seven-year, $161 million contract after this season. "I have no idea [if I will opt out,]" a noticeably lighter Sabathia said in the Yankees clubhouse Monday morning, as pitchers and catchers reported. "It is still in my contract. Anything is possible." Sabathia can opt out of his deal after the third year, which comes after this season. Since the middle of last season, the left-hander has repeatedly stated that he likes New York and playing for the Yankees and would not try to become a free agent. Sabathia, 30, originally had the clause put into his contract because he was hesitant about coming to the Yankees. Since then Sabathia has embraced being a Yankee and truly seems to love being part of the team's tradition. It makes sense from a business perspective for Sabathia to at least threaten to use the clause. He went 21-7 with a 3.18 ERA and finished third in Cy Young voting last season. His first season with New York was strong as well (19-8, 3.37). Another strong year and the Yankees might be eager to add more years and dollars to his deal. It's not clear, though, how much more the market will bear for a player of his age and if Sabathia would be willing to leave about $90 million guaranteed on the table. Free agent Cliff Lee flirted with the Yankees before signing with the Phillies for five years and $120 million at age 32. That deal averages just about a $1 million more per season than the deal for Sabathia, who would be looking for a new deal at age 31 if he opts out. The Yankees' staff desperately needs Sabathia to perform this year and beyond. With Sabathia's good friend Lee saying no to the Yankees and Andy Pettitte retiring, the Yankees have Phil Hughes and A.J. Burnett behind Sabathia. After that, Ivan Nova, Freddy Garcia, Bartolo Colon and Sergio Mitre will fight for the fourth and fifth starter spots. Sabathia, who had knee surgery this offseason, said he is 25 pounds lighter after he stopped eating full boxes of Cap'n Crunch. The 6-foot-7 Sabathia had reported to past camps well over 300 pounds. With the assist of a trainer and a chef, he has an eye on the future. "I'm getting older," Sabathia said. "I want to try and pitch as long as I can. Hopefully, another eight to 10 years, and this is just the first step in trying to do that." Sabathia has stated that he wants to pitch at least until he's 40. He would be 35 at the end of this current deal with the Yankees. He was reminded Monday that he has said that he would see that contract to the end. "I said that," Sabathia said. "I'm here to try and help the team win. I don't want to talk about that all year." When a reporter pressed, Sabathia quickly turned the attention to the present. "I'm here," Sabathia said. "I'm in the clubhouse." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmikeisback 65 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Keep your pants on carl haha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackout 63,381 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 CC has already said earlier this offseason he plans on staying and his family loves NY way to spin, mr. spin cycle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GimmeShelter 21,641 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 CC has already said earlier this offseason he plans on staying and his family loves NY way to spin, mr. spin cycle Did you read the article? That is included along with C.C.'s comment. "I have no idea [if I will opt out,]" a noticeably lighter Sabathia said in the Yankees clubhouse Monday morning, as pitchers and catchers reported. "It is still in my contract. Anything is possible." He will be a Phillie with Cliff Lee in 2012. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 43,127 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 All this means is that the Yankees will redo his contract after the year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morrissey 13,573 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) All this means is that the Yankees will redo his contract after the year. which sucks.... who wants to pay CC 20 million a year into his 40's? Edited February 15, 2011 by Tyler Durden Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackout 63,381 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 who else is gonna pay CC 23 million over the next 5 years?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 43,127 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 which sucks.... who wants to pay CC 20 million a year into his 40's? It aint my money... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyCarl40 53,248 Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 CC has already said earlier this offseason he plans on staying and his family loves NY way to spin, mr. spin cycle I didn't write the article, how could I spin anything? I was just posting this as information. I had no idea he had that in his contract. I don't think he'll do it, but we'll see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morrissey 13,573 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 It aint my money... not the point. money going to player A limits you with players B,C, and D... bad contracts are never good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmikeisback 65 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The yankees are absolutely MISERABLE in the way they negotiate. They overpay on every contract they give out and can someone explain why they need to be giving opt out clauses when they outbid the next team for CC by 20%? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 43,127 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 not the point. money going to player A limits you with players B,C, and D... bad contracts are never good. The Yankees are never limited. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmikeisback 65 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The Yankees are never limited. They better not be because the way they negotiate contracts pretty much assumes that. They overpay every single time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,990 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The Yankees are never limited. Every team has its limits, even the Yankees. They expressed as much in the Lee negotiation. It is just their limit is beyond everyone else. Just looks like no one is wanting to play for them, even with the highest price tag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 43,127 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) Every team has its limits, even the Yankees. They expressed as much in the Lee negotiation. It is just their limit is beyond everyone else. Just looks like no one is wanting to play for them, even with the highest price tag. Cliff Lee is one person. Other than that- who has taken less money to play elsewhere? I know that's what you want to believe because you hate the Yankees- but it aint true. At least not yet. Edited February 15, 2011 by Matt39 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmikeisback 65 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) Every team has its limits, even the Yankees. They expressed as much in the Lee negotiation. It is just their limit is beyond everyone else. Just looks like no one is wanting to play for them, even with the highest price tag. This is very true... about the Mets. hahah BTW the best closer on the market this offseason took a set up role to play here so you saying the lee thing is anything but a unique situation is dumb. Edited February 15, 2011 by madmikeisback Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,990 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Cliff Lee is one person. Other than that- who has taken less money to play elsewhere? I know that's what you want to believe because you hate the Yankees- but it aint true. At least not yet. CC Sabathia had to be paid over market (Yankees bid against themselves) and now is going to opt out. Same as A-Rod. yeah, players love the Yankees. Only to extort them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,990 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 This is very true... about the Mets. hahah BTW the best closer on the market this offseason took a set up role to play here so you saying the lee thing is anything but a unique situation is dumb. Are you allowed to post in the baseball forum. This is meant for adults who have the ability to contain their emotions. You have exhibited a problem with that in the past. But I guess you are here for amusement factor-Like telling us Phil Hughes has "HOF kind of stuff" when he was in the minors. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 43,127 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 CC Sabathia had to be paid over market (Yankees bid against themselves) and now is going to opt out. Same as A-Rod. yeah, players love the Yankees. Only to extort them. Wait, CC opted out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmikeisback 65 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) Are you allowed to post in the baseball forum. This is meant for adults who have the ability to contain their emotions. You have exhibited a problem with that in the past. But I guess you are here for amusement factor-Like telling us Phil Hughes has "HOF kind of stuff" when he was in the minors. If you can post the awful drivel you post in here on a daily basis anything I say is tame by comparison. You've got exactly zero actual arguments on any topic. Lets see you try to turn this thread about me instead of backing up the stupidity you're spewing in your prior posts haha. Notice how I was addressing a baseball argument and you respond in typical troll fashion with a personal attack that completely ignores the thread topic. Edited February 15, 2011 by madmikeisback Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bugg 44,712 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 This is a typcial spring training nonstory. No one will pay CC that much. he likes being a Yankee. The writers have nothing to do until games start in March. And if CC does, such is life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackout 63,381 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 This is a typcial spring training nonstory. No one will pay CC that much. he likes being a Yankee. The writers have nothing to do until games start in March. And if CC does, such is life. any anyone who tries to spin it any other way is a jackass. Only way CC opts out is to make the Yankees pay him more lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morrissey 13,573 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 This is a typcial spring training nonstory. No one will pay CC that much. he likes being a Yankee. The writers have nothing to do until games start in March. And if CC does, such is life. don't worry, that won't stop the yankees doubling it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morrissey 13,573 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 any anyone who tries to spin it any other way is a jackass. Only way CC opts out is to make the Yankees pay him more lol and you don't see that as a problem? if no one else will pay him what he's currently making, why the hell should the yankees give in and give him a better contract. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,990 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 and you don't see that as a problem? if no one else will pay him what he's currently making, why the hell should the yankees give in and give him a better contract. There. Someone else gets it. Some Yankee fans think that the Yankees are this bottomless pit of money that has no barrier. That is not so. The more you give Sabathia, the less you have to go some place else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,339 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 This is a typcial spring training nonstory. No one will pay CC that much. he likes being a Yankee. The writers have nothing to do until games start in March. And if CC does, such is life. Ding ding ding!!!! We have a winner!!!!! The Yankees are all set to have a quiet spring and the writers need to invent a controversy to amuse themselves and titillate Red Sox fans and Yankee haters like Dierking. Nothing to see here. Move on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,990 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Ding ding ding!!!! We have a winner!!!!! The Yankees are all set to have a quiet spring and the writers need to invent a controversy to amuse themselves and titillate Red Sox fans and Yankee haters like Dierking. Nothing to see here. Move on. CC said it himself, so how was this story invented? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 43,127 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 CC said it himself, so how was this story invented? CC didnt say anything really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,339 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 CC said it himself, so how was this story invented? He was asked the question and he gave a completely non-committed answer. Of course he is going to keep that option open. He would be a complete idiot not to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,990 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 He was asked the question and he gave a completely non-committed answer. Of course he is going to keep that option open. He would be a complete idiot not to. Odd, because his answer was a complete reversal from last fall, when asked the same question. Guess he got smarter over the winter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,339 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Odd, because his answer was a complete reversal from last fall, when asked the same question. Guess he got smarter over the winter. Whatever dude. Just keep fapping over this news. CC ain't going anywhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,990 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Whatever dude. Just keep fapping over this news. CC ain't going anywhere. All I am trying to do is be realistic-Something you seem to be incapable of doing. Here is the realistic approach- IF CC opts out, again IF: -It means there is a slight opportunity that he may not be a Yankee. I would guess that represents bad news to the Yankees or -It means the Yankees have to spend more money to keep him. That is less money that can be spent elsewhere. I would say that is not good either. Keep with your sunny, naive disposition. It is so charming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,339 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 All I am trying to do is be realistic-Something you seem to be incapable of doing. Here is the realistic approach- IF CC opts out, again IF: -It means there is a slight opportunity that he may not be a Yankee. I would guess that represents bad news to the Yankees or -It means the Yankees have to spend more money to keep him. That is less money that can be spent elsewhere. I would say that is not good either. Keep with your sunny, naive disposition. It is so charming. FAP FAP FAP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,990 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 FAP FAP FAP You obviously have no visibility as to how you act on the main board. Probably why everyone views you as some type of village idiot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klecko73isGod 124,339 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 You obviously have no visibility as to how you act on the main board. Probably why everyone views you as some type of village idiot. Its the internet dude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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