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Turns out Phil Hughes is just bad, not hurt

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Yeah he sucks because of 3 bad starts. He'll go down build arm strength and be back quickly. Probably before the mets win their 10th game. BTW, he's on the DL for dead arm, not optioned, just like I said he'd be. Will you give me credit for being right? I doubt it very highly.

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It seems like people are very quick to pass judgement who has been a good pitcher his entire professional career. He'll be back.

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Looks like Hughes, sadly, IS actually hurt. So it turns out that I was right and SD is an ahole. So nothing's new.

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Being soft, injury prone and mediocre is no way for any pitcher to go through life.

Thanks for proving me right again.

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So Mike, as I asked you, what exactly is Hughes' injury? Where were you right?

Well I was right about you being an ahole for one. I was also right about Hughes being hurt and the fact that he's not pitching is proof of that. This is a process.

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There you are-we thought you disappeared from this thread.

Remember how you were crowing about how Phil Hughes was injured and you just knew it. Good time, good times.

He's out 6-8 weeks for relaxation. Perfectly healthy. BTW who's "we"? Everyone is laughing at you in here.

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Yup, just like Oliver Perez was last year. DL'ed due to suckiness.

Hey, it was YOIU that told us that he HAD to be injured. There was no other way to explain it. Alas, no injury.

PredictableMike wrong again.

Listen old timer, I know your mind is probably starting to go but even in the feble rantings of your deranged mind this is a dumb statement. Keep going though. More stuff to make you look dumb with when he comes back.

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I never said he wasn't coming back.

All I asked was-WHAT IS HIS INJURY THAT YOU WERE SO CERTAIN OF?

All I have gotten is name calling and dancing? Which you are not deft at.

You're the one name calling. I'm just telling the truth. You are an old decrepit hater with nothing better to do that bring up old threads to try to stir up some crap. It's sad actually. A step down from yelling at kids to get off your lawn.

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Final time, simple question. What is Phil Hughes' injury?

A dead arm and inflammation in his shoulder. Whats your malfunction?

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So pretty much what every other pitcher gets, and pitches through. That is not an injury, that is called pitching wear and tear

Dr Demented over here. Good to know you're such an expert on pitchers' bodies. hahaha. Why aren't you practicing medicine instead of being an a$$ on a messageboard?

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Every spring, most pitchers experience what the trainers and pitching coaches refer to as "dead arm". It is not an injury, it is not an ailment, it is the fatigue of building the arm strength up. Pitchers will normally get hit around for a start or 2 during the period. This is nothing new.

It is NOT an injury and normally pitchers battle through it.

You're not a doctor, but apparently you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night....

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Neither are YOU. And YOU claim that he was INJURED. Apparently. you did so without any proof or basis.

Yeah because healthy pitchers miss 2 months without rehab starts and get cortisone shots ALL THE TIME. You're dumb beyond words.

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Sounds like Hughes is one big Pussy. Have it your way.

Message board bravado. Gonna really enjoy making you look like the moron you are when he's healthy and pitching at a high level again.

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Exactly. Unlike Hughes who has no excuse for sucking.

When has he ever sucked? He was a great RP and won 18 games with great peripherals in his first full year as a starter. What world are you living in?

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Are you really qualifying a pitcher by WINS? You broke your own commandment there.

What peripherals were "great"?

His WHIP, K/9, H/9 and BB/K were all very good go look them up. Not that facts would dent your hateraide. Your yankee posts must outnumber your mets posts 80-90 to 1.

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Unreal. You're one to talk on the number of posts about a team that you don't follow. Hughes was terrible last season after May and he was terrible this season.

Find me his last Mets post. I post about the Yankees more than boston anyway. You don't have to jump into every argument spin cycle.

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You originally said "great". Now you have backed it down to "very good".

I would call them slightly better than League average.

And his most recent peripherals, dating back to last Summer, have been less than league average.

Enough with the pumping of Phil Hughes. Let's call him what he is

you have no idea what league avg is. Talking out your a$$ as usual.

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Not close to GREAT.

You have no argument so you're retreating to a semantics argument. Good going. Why dont you go take the walker out for a spin or something?

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Semantics-YOU were the one that said his PERIPHERALS were GREAT. No semantics involved there.

Directly from your POSTS.

I show you that NONE of his peripherals were even top 10 in the league. At least you had the sense to back down your statement to his peripherals were "VERY GOOD". No semantics involved there. Directly from your posts.

YOU claim I don't have any clue to what "league average is" I show you AL League average for pitching 2010. No semantics involved there.

You were wrong.

Quit while you are way behind.

And here comes your usual garbage. Claim victory in the hopes that the other person is too exhausted from trying to argue with that think skull of yours. You're SOOOOOO predictable it's hilarious. BTW i love when you do little plays on words to try to be clever and it just makes you sound more like the old clod you are. Terrific!

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You have to love madmikes commitment to Yankee players. They can do no wrong as there is always some kind of obscure stat that will back up his argument. Kudos you crazy bastard.

BTW: Phil Hughes is terrible.

I love how you, spin cycle and the other Boston PR interns around here pick a fight with me over Hughes, who has been a great RP and won 18 games with peripherals that were much better than his ERA ended up being in his only full year as a starter, sucks but 5 mins ago you were ballwashing Ellsbury in another thread who is a truly terrible player who has never preformed at even a decent level in the majors. If you've seen some of the fights i've had with other yankee fans on here about yankee players you'd know that what you're saying about me is complete BS. I'm extremely objective about yankee players. Something that can't be said for you and your Boston PR pals.

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A few things:

1). I have never ball-washed Jacoby.

2). You are now throwing out wins to justify how good Hughes is?

3). You have never seen a Yankee that you don't wont to blow.

1) The entire boston PR dept has on this site.

2) Forget wins completely. Hughes threw 176 innings of very good baseball in his first year as a starter. All his peripherals bear that out.

3) An utterly moronic statement. I bash Yankee players in here all the time, something most of your Boston PR pals would never do to Boston players.

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Wins to judge a SP but can't count SB for Ellsbury. Who is spinning now?

What does wins have to do with stolen bases? you're making no sense. Hughes threw 176 innings of very good baseball no matter how many games he won. And Ellsbury still sucks.

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In his start with Single A Staten Island he gave up a monster homer to a lowly Brooklyn Cyclone in Brooklyn. The field is huge, it's near the ocean so there is wind current pushing in from the seas almost all the time and it's guys barely out of high school and college.There are very few homeruns given up there at all.Seems Phil Hughes does in fact suck.

This is as awful as a post can be. The guy is injured, was throwing 94 MPH in his rehab start which is a great sign and you're bitching about one homer he gave up in a good start? Really?

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SD and the other know nothings who have had a good time in this thread must be getting a little nervous at the reports that Hughes' velocity is back which pretty much proves that he was hurt earlier in the season.

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I love how you can't get an argument down. he sucks. he's injury prone. just throw the kitchen sink in the hopes that you don't look like more of a moron when he comes back in a few weeks. haha keep digging old man.

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It is both-The guy is hurt a lot and except for 3 months as a starter, has been very mediocre.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE THAT SAYS DIFFERENTLY? Thought so.

Phil Hughes-career as a starter-4.97 ERA, 1.368 WHIP. There is Madmike's love child as a pitcher. Defend that. If he were not a Yankee, Mike would be calling those numbers "garbage"

All his peripherals are good. Just like his WHIP. That plus the fact that he dominated every level of the minors and was a top of the rotation starter in his first full year as a starter after being a great RP points to him being a good pitcher for a long time if he's healthy. Your moronic hatred of him (probably only to try to argue with me) is nothing but cherry picking a few points without any context and keeping repeating them like a trained parrot to try to get some sort of reaction. Why don't you go pick up some geratol or something...

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4.97 ERA lifetime as a starter and 1.368 WHIP hardly qualify as good. They don't even qualify as average.

Keep throwing the word "peripheral" around without substance and you look foolish. Hector and I already posted Hughes' numbers to League average last year in this thread.

Turn him back to a reliever where he actually performed, and lessened his chance of injury.

Nothing but wishing by you in this thread.

The only "substance" you're posting is his ERA over and over again which is a flawed stat. By every other measure he's been a good starter. I know that won't change your spewing of stupidity but it's the reality of what the kid as been in his career.

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Yeah, sure, ERA and WHIP are so flawed. Who wants to know how many runs and baserunners a pitcher gives up per nine innings.

Totally useless.

You really would be better served to go back to yelling at the neighborhood kids to get off your lawn and leave the saber metric "analysis" to people who have the slightest idea what they are talking about...

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Please Mike-Enlighten the masses. What pitcher stats are the most important in the sabermetric world? Geekdom everywhere awaits.

Taking you seriously and having a real conversation with you is like definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. You're not hear for anything other than trolling.

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He'll be back. Nova got the short end of the stick mostly because he still has the options and they don't want to go with a 6-man rotation. Pitching surplus is rarely if ever a bad thing, especially when we have to two guys in their mid-30s with durability issues.

He'll probably be back in the majors as the member of another team.

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The hatred of Hughes and the moronic revisionist history about his track record never fails to make me chuckle.

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