Blackout Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 on the plus side, he didn't walk anyone lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 4.94 ERA, 1.34 WHIP Hall of Fame numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Hughes needs to go to an NL team. He and Rick Porcello would turn it around fast in that league...both should be Cubs along with Cole Hamels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 4.94 ERA, 1.34 WHIP Haven't heard from you his past starts when he went 6-1 Shocked about that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 4.94 ERA, 1.34 WHIP 4.94 ERA, 1.34 WHIP all i have to say now is this: "do you prefer public or private punishment?"-- Canibus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 4.94 ERA, 1.34 WHIP The silent one returns to the debate. Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Haven't heard from you his past starts when he went 6-1 Shocked about that too Hughes had a terrible start to the season. Beyond terrible. Everyone had an opinion on him then. He goes on a tear and there was a whole lot of silence. But he gives up some Home Runs in 115 degree weather and he is done again. LOL - Hughes will laugh all the way to another world series ring this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 The silent one returns to the debate. Shocking. Tell me where I am wrong. Hughes goes on these little runs of mediocrity and the Yankee homers (Jone) circle jerk into a frenzy. Water always returns to its own level. In Hughes' case, that level is slightly below mediocrityu. His career numbers say so, despite how much anybody wishes, or any small spurts he has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 The only offense that is halfway decent that he beat was Detroit and they are a a huge disappointment this season thus far. Beating teams like KC, Sea, and Washington is not impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Hughes had a terrible start to the season. Beyond terrible. Everyone had an opinion on him then. He goes on a tear and there was a whole lot of silence. But he gives up some Home Runs in 115 degree weather and he is done again. LOL - Hughes will laugh all the way to another world series ring this year. His career numbers are what they are. You can't explain those away. The Yankees should win the WS every year and everyone laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 This is a big thread for the Yankees 5th starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Haven't heard from you his past starts when he went 6-1 Shocked about that too all i have to say now is this: "do you prefer public or private punishment?"-- Canibus Well back to reality 4 innings 6 runs 4 home runs This JonE &BO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 His career numbers are what they are. You can't explain those away. The Yankees should win the WS every year and everyone laughs. Everyone isn't laughing. The Yankees are a model of excellence. Phil Hughes is still 25 I believe. Will he ever be the # 1 guy on the Yankees staff? Probably not. But I don't see a problem in the Yankees developing home grown talent that helps them win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Tell me where I am wrong. Hughes goes on these little runs of mediocrity and the Yankee homers (Jone) circle jerk into a frenzy. Water always returns to its own level. In Hughes' case, that level is slightly below mediocrityu. His career numbers say so, despite how much anybody wishes, or any small spurts he has You are wrong in that you never post when he does well. If he is a mediocre pitcher that means he has some good days. We never hear from you on those days. You don't have to be objective, I am just pointing out that you aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 You are wrong in that you never post when he does well. If he is a mediocre pitcher that means he has some good days. We never hear from you on those days. You don't have to be objective, I am just pointing out that you aren't. When he does well does not fit my agenda. Mediocre is not interesting, so why talk about it. I was led to believe that Hughes would be an ace. I want to besmirch an ace more than I do some also-ran. Agree with you on homegrown talent. That is why the mets are the most interesting story in NY right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Scott Dierking: a poor man's Jonejet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Scott Dierking: a poor man's Jonejet Please make your posts about the topic, not about the posters themselves. It makes it so much more interesting for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Everyone isn't laughing. The Yankees are a model of excellence. Phil Hughes is still 25 I believe. Will he ever be the # 1 guy on the Yankees staff? Probably not. But I don't see a problem in the Yankees developing home grown talent that helps them win. Really? Like all big money clubs, the Yankees are a model of throwing money at problems. Their excellence is being able to throw more money than anyone else. I am curious, if true, how Yankee Nation handles their new hard cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Really? Like all big money clubs, the Yankees are a model of throwing money at problems. Their excellence is being able to throw more money than anyone else. I am curious, if true, how Yankee Nation handles their new hard cap. The Killer Bs in the minor leagues......... Oh wait a minute, they are struggling right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Who is this homegrown talent on the Mets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Who is this homegrown talent on the Mets? Davis, Murphy, Tejada, Wright, Neiwenhuis, Thole, Duda, Gee, Niese, Parnell, among other. They actually started a game earlier in the year where every position was home grown. They have filled in injuries with home grown talent throughout the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Who is this homegrown talent on the Mets? Why do Yankee Nation gets wrapped around this? No big market team can solely survive on home grown talent. It is nice when it happens, but not something you can expect to contend year in and year out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Davis, Murphy, Tejada, Wright, Neiwenhuis, Thole, Duda, Gee, Niese, Parnell, among other. They actually started a game earlier in the year where every position was home grown. They have filled in injuries with home grown talent throughout the year. I said talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Why do Yankee Nation gets wrapped around this? No big market team can solely survive on home grown talent. It is nice when it happens, but not something you can expect to contend year in and year out. Having pride in homegrown talent in baseball is one of the more ridiculous things fans beat their chests about. And if we're going to argue about it, the Yankees best player, and a top 10 player in baseball, is home grown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 I said talent I could care less about numbers, I care more so about how the club is performing. Right now, this is a meshed group with an approach that is winning. Will they make the playoffs this year? Probably not. Are they an organization that has an idea and are grooming players? Absolutely! It will take a couple of years for some of the studs to come up and hopefully contribute, but the Mets are getting more out of their club than any time in recent history-and it is farm grown kids that are making it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Having pride in homegrown talent in baseball is one of the more ridiculous things fans beat their chests about. And if we're going to argue about it, the Yankees best player, and a top 10 player in baseball, is home grown. Yeah. the Cardinal organization sure has the wrong idea about how to cultivate a club. Having a farm system and a moving players up sure helps. Do you do it 100% of that way> of course not. But sure gives flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 I said talent And I would take Niese or Gee over Hughes any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 why are you talking about the Mets in a Phil Hughes thread? man, Scott is such a bad troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 And I would take Niese or Gee over Hughes any day. So would I. But the first guy you listed we were told was the next Don Mattingly. He cant even catch a pop out without injuring himself. if you're going to get on fans for overrating Hughes I can do the same for Ike Davis, who's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 So would I. But the first guy you listed we were told was the next Don Mattingly. He cant even catch a pop out without injuring himself. if you're going to get on fans for overrating Hughes I can do the same for Ike Davis, who's terrible. Because he was first on my list, did not mean he was the top guy on the list-I was going around the horn. Davis has had a tough couple of months, no doubt. He also missed the last half of last year. He also has more RBI than Arod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Tell me where I am wrong. Hughes goes on these little runs of mediocrity and the Yankee homers (Jone) circle jerk I want to make it clear, circle jerking is not my thing I'm a Dutch Rudder kind of guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Dierk really is a poor mans me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Dierking must have the most boring home life to continuously come here and get owned on an almost daily basis* *except when the Yankees go on a 10 game win streak and he is nowhere to be seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Dierk really is a poor mans me Thing is, I am not dumb enough to make predictions only to have them blow up immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 And I would take Niese or Gee over Hughes any day. Niese? **** yeah. Gee? Meh. Just send Hughes to the Cubs, Yankees. We'll Matt Garza him...well Matt Garza was pretty good in the AL East, but you might know what I mean. Get him to stop mixing his pitches like an 8 year old with one and a half pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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