Jetsfan80 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 ok, so we've reached the point of the game for jif to have his meltdown.. Almost time to start playing Heh. Not even kidding, before JiF posted and you responded, I was about to post "where is Jif anyways? Its about time for his scheduled Day 1 emo meltdown". I don't think that's an example of getting ninja'd, but rather evidence that I've already played too much mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I know pac did enjoy his deal role a few games ago, so I could see him offering deals. but i think you are lying about everything else. Not sure if that means you are guilty however. And i look forward to your reports later on how the entire game reacted to you, egocentric ****turd Interesting. Historically, you don't usually try to strike the "you suck at this game" nerve with me. You leave that for the less witty, and usually are more creative with your insults. Its like you are trying to goad me into trying to prove I'm good at this by turning into the Aped Crusader and leading a lynch... very scummy. some background, a couple of the players here, (ape and jif), consider themselves so valuable to the town that they feel lying about having a BP to ensure thier own survival till endgame is crucial for achieving town victory. Both have been caught lying about such things before. I lied about it, and lasted to end game, then confirmed Slats and we won. JIF lied about it, and ****ed the town in the a$$. I played it right, he did not. This game has nothing to do with that one either. You seem to be trying awful hard to push my train here scum bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 some background, a couple of the players here, (ape and jif), consider themselves so valuable to the town that they feel lying about having a BP to ensure thier own survival till endgame is crucial for achieving town victory. Both have been caught lying about such things before. I get it - and I'm taking the monkey finger into account as well. I'm just saying that I find it odd that all of that would be wasted on a roleless townie. Let me run through this... The mod makes the ape FOS everyone - which wouldn't surprise anyone, really. And then what? Everybody jumps on the bandwagon to lynch the ape based on his FOSing? I'm not really buying that. Like I said, I do believe that the mod made him FOS everyone - I just don't believe he's a roleless townie, in which case, he's obviously hiding something. I'm tempted to lynch him. If he has a vest, he won't die, so it won't hurt the town. But, if he's lied, then we may well bag a mafioso on D1, and that would be huge. I'll wait to hear other angles on this before voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Idiot...you are so dumb. Why reveal now? Dumbest thing ever? You werent even close to a lynch. Now we only have one more reveal. You are so dumb...yadayadayadayaday. SK, shoot him. Its the smart thing to do. Everyone quick convince the SK to shoot. h8uall Yeah, yeah... I didn't know I had revealed. Pac screwed me with semantics. I wanted a longer train tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 You seem to be trying awful hard to push my train here scum bag. Let's face it. It's a pro-town maneuver. Only reason you died early last game was because I shot you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Interesting. Historically, you don't usually try to strike the "you suck at this game" nerve with me. You leave that for the less witty, and usually are more creative with your insults. Its like you are trying to goad me into trying to prove I'm good at this by turning into the Aped Crusader and leading a lynch... very scummy. This is what you said: "Anyway, when I re-read tonight I'll be looking at those that hopped on my train and those that would leave well enough alone about why I FOS'ed the whole game" which implies you are going to base your op's on people around the way they reacted to your stupid fos'ing... I thought it was funny I lied about it, and lasted to end game, then confirmed Slats and we won. JIF lied about it, and ****ed the town in the a$$. I played it right, he did not. This game has nothing to do with that one either. You seem to be trying awful hard to push my train here scum bag. hahahahahahahahah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's going to be next to impossible not to play the mod in this game, so I don't think I'm going to bother. At least not early. I'm certain that he's ******* with many -if not all- of us. The chimp's reveal is exactly the sort of thing that would bring more attention to him, something Pac would like. While it's very possible that he's making it up, it's also very possible that pac gave him exactly what he says. I'm neutral on it for now. I think Pac would prefer to see CTM get lynched as a townie than as scum - and his reaction seems honest. I think Pac would prefer to see DPR get lynched as scum than as town. His gee, something about this sort of bothers me reaction definitely comes across as scummier, too. unvote vote: DPR Welcome back, btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Damn, I'm ******* hungry. Point of clarification, DPR, we haven't seen a vest that prevents a lynch. That's 1 time lynch proof by our lingo. I read the Ape's vest reference to avoid a shot by Vig/SK/Scum in a NK or DK attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I get it - and I'm taking the monkey finger into account as well. I'm just saying that I find it odd that all of that would be wasted on a roleless townie. Let me run through this... The mod makes the ape FOS everyone - which wouldn't surprise anyone, really. And then what? Everybody jumps on the bandwagon to lynch the ape based on his FOSing? I'm not really buying that. Like I said, I do believe that the mod made him FOS everyone - I just don't believe he's a roleless townie, in which case, he's obviously hiding something. I'm tempted to lynch him. If he has a vest, he won't die, so it won't hurt the town. But, if he's lied, then we may well bag a mafioso on D1, and that would be huge. I'll wait to hear other angles on this before voting. ohh, i think he's FOS as well.. just don't know that it means gulty.. he certainly could be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I get it - and I'm taking the monkey finger into account as well. I'm just saying that I find it odd that all of that would be wasted on a roleless townie. Let me run through this... The mod makes the ape FOS everyone - which wouldn't surprise anyone, really. And then what? Everybody jumps on the bandwagon to lynch the ape based on his FOSing? I'm not really buying that. Like I said, I do believe that the mod made him FOS everyone - I just don't believe he's a roleless townie, in which case, he's obviously hiding something. I'm tempted to lynch him. If he has a vest, he won't die, so it won't hurt the town. But, if he's lied, then we may well bag a mafioso on D1, and that would be huge. I'll wait to hear other angles on this before voting. This might be the scummiest post of this thread. If you lynch me, I will die. Bulletproof vest is not "lynch proof" it is "bullet proof" like as in NK's. New to this game? I just explained taht I would be roleless if I did not accept the deal. Since I did accept it, and complete the task, I have a bulletproof vest. My role is now townie with bulletproof vest. I'm not sure how i could spell that out any better... Were you skimming and now trying to nudge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's going to be next to impossible not to play the mod in this game, so I don't think I'm going to bother. At least not early. I'm certain that he's ******* with many -if not all- of us. The chimp's reveal is exactly the sort of thing that would bring more attention to him, something Pac would like. While it's very possible that he's making it up, it's also very possible that pac gave him exactly what he says. I'm neutral on it for now. I think Pac would prefer to see CTM get lynched as a townie than as scum - and his reaction seems honest. I think Pac would prefer to see DPR get lynched as scum than as town. His gee, something about this sort of bothers me reaction definitely comes across as scummier, too. unvote vote: DPR Welcome back, btw! 0% chance I'm lyching that pile of awesome on day 1 his first game back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's going to be next to impossible not to play the mod in this game, so I don't think I'm going to bother. At least not early. I'm certain that he's ******* with many -if not all- of us. The chimp's reveal is exactly the sort of thing that would bring more attention to him, something Pac would like. While it's very possible that he's making it up, it's also very possible that pac gave him exactly what he says. I'm neutral on it for now. I think Pac would prefer to see CTM get lynched as a townie than as scum - and his reaction seems honest. I think Pac would prefer to see DPR get lynched as scum than as town. His gee, something about this sort of bothers me reaction definitely comes across as scummier, too. unvote vote: DPR Welcome back, btw! Thanks, amigo. It's good to be back! Now, what I was saying was that if Pac made the ape FOS everyone - which I believe - then, why would I28 reveal that with almost no pressure on him, and then reveal that he got a bullet-proof vest in the bargain? Seriously, why reveal that you have a vest at all? Better to keep that one a secret for later, no? Just strikes me odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I get it - and I'm taking the monkey finger into account as well. I'm just saying that I find it odd that all of that would be wasted on a roleless townie. Let me run through this... The mod makes the ape FOS everyone - which wouldn't surprise anyone, really. And then what? Everybody jumps on the bandwagon to lynch the ape based on his FOSing? I'm not really buying that. Like I said, I do believe that the mod made him FOS everyone - I just don't believe he's a roleless townie, in which case, he's obviously hiding something. I'm tempted to lynch him. If he has a vest, he won't die, so it won't hurt the town. But, if he's lied, then we may well bag a mafioso on D1, and that would be huge. I'll wait to hear other angles on this before voting. 0% chance I'm lyching that pile of awesome on day 1 his first game back.. I don't want to, either. It's a shame that he's revealing himself to be such obvious scum this early in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Man, why can't this workday end already? Yeah, Crusher, I know. That's why I said "tagline" rather than line or dialogue. The movie is known for that phrase. As for the Ape, I don't know what to think. I disagree, DPR, that the earning a BPV may be puzzling. What is puzzling is actually revealing that. It's JiF FMA 2.0. Is it creating a WIFOM? I understand the wifom aspect. I revealed it because of the semantic hair-splitting in my convo with Pac, and because I'd rather reveal legitimately what I earned than either make something up OR say something like "pro-town object." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Thanks, amigo. It's good to be back! Now, what I was saying was that if Pac made the ape FOS everyone - which I believe - then, why would I28 reveal that with almost no pressure on him, and then reveal that he got a bullet-proof vest in the bargain? Seriously, why reveal that you have a vest at all? Better to keep that one a secret for later, no? Just strikes me odd. That's our monkey! Pac said he already revealed, so he jumped in and completed the reveal - even though he said he didn't want to do that. Forget human logic, it makes primate sense. I'd lean town on him out of the chute, and expect that Pac would make him difficult to get rid of so we all suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I say we lynch I-28. PROS: 1. Don't have to deal with the Ape lasting until endgame. 2. No worries about running up another training and outing a power role. 3. If he's lying, small chance we've caught scum. CONS: 1. Possibly lose a confirmed bullet-proof townie. 2. CTM survives past Day 1. Clearly not in the best interests of the mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWWombat Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 lol Also, FoS CTM for rolefishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 This might be the scummiest post of this thread. If you lynch me, I will die. Bulletproof vest is not "lynch proof" it is "bullet proof" like as in NK's. New to this game? I just explained taht I would be roleless if I did not accept the deal. Since I did accept it, and complete the task, I have a bulletproof vest. My role is now townie with bulletproof vest. I'm not sure how i could spell that out any better... Were you skimming and now trying to nudge? Easy there, big fella. "Bullet Proof" could easily be "Kill Proof", so it's good that you cleared it up. And it brings up an excellent question: Mod? Is this a Full Coroner game - will the death scenes reflect role/alignment/attributes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Thanks, amigo. It's good to be back! Now, what I was saying was that if Pac made the ape FOS everyone - which I believe - then, why would I28 reveal that with almost no pressure on him, and then reveal that he got a bullet-proof vest in the bargain? Seriously, why reveal that you have a vest at all? Better to keep that one a secret for later, no? Just strikes me odd. I didn't intentionally reveal. Read and/or take better notes my scummy friend... Pac called it a reveal, and basically got me on semantics. I already explained why I said I earned the vest. Not going to beat it to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Easy there, big fella. "Bullet Proof" could easily be "Kill Proof", so it's good that you cleared it up. And it brings up an excellent question: Mod? Is this a Full Coroner game - will the death scenes reflect role/alignment/attributes? Even if you believe that his bullet-proof means lynch-proof, it's hardly a townie POV to look to burn that potential town benefit on D1. FOS JF80, too, for having the same interest. There was a little talk in last game's scum thread about 80 needing some scum seasoning before being expected to handle the SK role he had last game. Could be that Pac opted to get him some classes in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I say we lynch I-28. PROS: 1. Don't have to deal with the Ape lasting until endgame. 2. No worries about running up another training and outing a power role. 3. If he's lying, small chance we've caught scum. CONS: 1. Possibly lose a confirmed bullet-proof townie. 2. CTM survives past Day 1. Clearly not in the best interests of the mod. Adding to the lists: PROS: 4. If he dies and is telling the truth, we'll confirm that the mod has given PR's, and is offering special roles for "tasks". That could be valuable info. 5. If he dies and is scum, we'll have some nice info about other players. CONS: 3. If he's telling the truth, it helps the mafia to spot when someone else earns a special role. Overall, it really doesn't make a huge amount of sense for mafia to really go after a self-revealed innocent now - that would really be dumb, in fact - so that fact that so far, I28 is the only one who has drawn attention to himself is a perfectly good reason to debate him and decide whether we can learn something from this. Unvote SMC - Vote I28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Sorry for revealing guys. I don't agree, but its not my game to mod. Here is my full reveal - I wanted to discuss semantics with our mod before posting... I am the Town Contractor. (Yeah, I've never heard of this role either. Pac = doosh.) Basically, I was offered a deal to complete a task to earn a role/ability. Obviously the task would put me at risk of lynch. By accepting the deal, I had to FOS every player in the game except myself on D1. No more than 2 of you at a time (in a single post). In exchange I received a bulletproof vest. If I chose not to do this deal, then I would have stayed a roleless townie. I'm pretty sure Pac wanted my FOS peppered in throughout D1 so I'd get a ton of pressure, and then reveal with a role nobody has ever heard of. Deviant ****er. That is why I FOS'ed in one huge cluster, so it'd be obvious it was mod-driven. Not sure why JVOR had to play 20 questions about it... Anyway, when I re-read tonight I'll be looking at those that hopped on my train and those that would leave well enough alone about why I FOS'ed the whole game. I figure that'll serve as a decent starting point. I had hoped my train would get longer before I had to reveal, but no luck... Well duh, you dumbass. You said you didn't have a post restriction. I just asked if you did it by yourself since you implied you had no restriction. I'm not blaming you for wasting a reveal since like you said it was semantics, but don't drag me into it. It was a perfectly normal question to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 That's our monkey! Pac said he already revealed, so he jumped in and completed the reveal - even though he said he didn't want to do that. Forget human logic, it makes primate sense. I'd lean town on him out of the chute, and expect that Pac would make him difficult to get rid of so we all suffer. Truthfully, I considered NOT revealing anything further. But when CTSCUM immediately asked for my full reveal I wanted to give it to him to see what he'd do next. He ONLY goads me into Aped Crusader scenarios when he's trying to hurt the town, as he has done so far this game. That was my first ping from him. Then, I reveal with bulletproof and he immediately begins a campaign to undermine my truthfulness. The key here is the way he peppers in comments about how "it doesn't mean I'm scum." How ******* scummy can you get? He's saying you all shouldn't believe me, thus nudging my train... but then insulating his position as though he knows I'll flip town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Mod? Is this a Full Coroner game - will the death scenes reflect role/alignment/attributes? Role and alignment only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Even if you believe that his bullet-proof means lynch-proof, it's hardly a townie POV to look to burn that potential town benefit on D1. FOS JF80, too, for having the same interest. There was a little talk in last game's scum thread about 80 needing some scum seasoning before being expected to handle the SK role he had last game. Could be that Pac opted to get him some classes in this one. Look, I know that you and I go down different logic paths - but what is the benefit to the town that a roleless townie has a NightKill proof vest? We can't use him as a shield... Now, trying to burn JF80 down is more damning than FOS'ing me. Let's just logic this thing through - lay down the fact, agree on the terms, and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Even if you believe that his bullet-proof means lynch-proof, it's hardly a townie POV to look to burn that potential town benefit on D1. FOS JF80, too, for having the same interest. There was a little talk in last game's scum thread about 80 needing some scum seasoning before being expected to handle the SK role he had last game. Could be that Pac opted to get him some classes in this one. I do need scum training. Sadly I'm not scum this game. Still looking forward to that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Role and alignment only. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naeann Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 he paid for weiner, obv unvote vote Crusher... more interested in penis then mafia As have half of the players in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Thank you. don't mention it Wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Official Vote Count: AVM (4)- Sharrow, JC, JiF, Slats Hess (2) - Song, Hess SMC (2) - DPR, Crusher CTM (1) - JVoR DPR (2) - SMC, BG JetFat80 (1) - WWwombat I20Ape (5) - Smash, Tom Shane, CTM, AVM, JF80 Slats (1) - Verb JVoR (1) - Brett Brett (1) - Dan X Those not voting: Nae, I20Ape With 22 maricons alive, it takes 12 to lynch Deadline is 4/20 at 10PM EST This is the last vote count posted. 5 against I28 isn't exactly panic time, but it might get someone's feet shuffling... I28 did not just jump out and reveal - I accept that. What else do we want to add to the fact list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 What else do we want to add to the fact list? Maybe not a "fact" yet, but strong evidence suggests SMC has some form of PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I say we lynch I-28. PROS: 1. Don't have to deal with the Ape lasting until endgame. 2. No worries about running up another training and outing a power role. 3. If he's lying, small chance we've caught scum. CONS: 1. Possibly lose a confirmed bullet-proof townie. 2. CTM survives past Day 1. Clearly not in the best interests of the mod. Pro's 1, 2 and 3... 1. So you want to lynch me because you don't want a bulletproof player in the endgame? If town had a bulletproof player at endgame last game, Slats probably wouldn't have won for the town. Great town position to take. 2. Legit concern of outing a power role, and exactly the nerve I'd strike with townies in this situation. Fear mongering. 3. If I'm lying, there kind of a LARGE chance you caught scum. Dummy. Cons: 1. Thanks captain obvious. 2. You should actually look at how CTM is playing and stop worrying about his crush on Pac. Adding to the lists: PROS: 4. If he dies and is telling the truth, we'll confirm that the mod has given PR's, and is offering special roles for "tasks". That could be valuable info. 5. If he dies and is scum, we'll have some nice info about other players. CONS: 3. If he's telling the truth, it helps the mafia to spot when someone else earns a special role. Overall, it really doesn't make a huge amount of sense for mafia to really go after a self-revealed innocent now - that would really be dumb, in fact - so that fact that so far, I28 is the only one who has drawn attention to himself is a perfectly good reason to debate him and decide whether we can learn something from this. Unvote SMC - Vote I28 Pirate loses points for building on JF80's list here... 80 is clearly regressing. Pros: 4. This is a HUGE conclusion to jump to based on one players coroner report. 5. I won't flip scum. This point is irrelevant, but I already think you may know that. Cons: 3. This is again a big conclusion to jump to. Hopefully you are scum and they are all gobbling up your "logic" like its gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Man, why can't this workday end already? Yeah, Crusher, I know. That's why I said "tagline" rather than line or dialogue. The movie is known for that phrase. As for the Ape, I don't know what to think. I disagree, DPR, that the earning a BPV may be puzzling. What is puzzling is actually revealing that. It's JiF FMA 2.0. Is it creating a WIFOM? I been so busy at work today only been in and out to try and keep up. I'm not even sure why the hell I28 decided to reveal. Last I looked he was at L5? Maybe? Tonight I will get a chance to spend some time reading. Have a chance to slow down and take a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naeann Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 What days are you? He's friday friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Maybe not a "fact" yet, but strong evidence suggests SMC has some form of PR. You just posted about how you don't want to risk another role reveal... seems stupid to draw attention to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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