billo83 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 They also need to consider giving up 2 second rounders for him. Steep price to pay for one season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 They also need to consider giving up 2 second rounders for him. Steep price to pay for one season yup but hey, look at what WE gave up for Cromartie...who might not be here either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 and if what caused her to do this turns out bad for Marshall he's looking at a year suspension Are you sure it's a year? His last suspension was only for one week. I honestly don't know. if anyone needs to be kicked out it's Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 Are you sure it's a year? His last suspension was only for one week. I honestly don't know. if anyone needs to be kicked out it's Marshall who really knows anymore fg-so much disinformation and people out there pretending to know what the eff they are talking about-I'll not be one and just say "from what I now understand-it could be a year" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Just because he's an a$$hole doesnt mean he deserves to be stabbed. I swear some of you act like you're perfect, its just shameful Hopefully he makes a full recovery. So happy we didnt trade for that douche! Let the Phins have him. He does deserve to get stabbed if he is still beating up on women. His history shows that that may very well be the case. I am surprised you r sticking up for this scum bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 You know I'm no lawyer or nothin' but I HAVE watched enough episodes of The First 48 to know that lying to the police and saying you fell on a vase is obstruction of justice-is it not? Just remember who the guy is that will be looking at this case and determining whether or not this will be his 3rd offense or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 These domestic abuse cases are weird. Look at Marshall’s record. That many abuse contacts with the police, and no jail? If the woman refuses to testify against him there isn’t much the cops can do unless she is beat to crap. In these high profile cases why would the woman want to kill the golden goose over a black eye? This might be a bit different. She probably is going to be charged with a felony. Looking at jail time. She might feel compelled to defend herself and throw the dirt bag under the bus. Keep in mind that of all the instances in the article I posted above it was two different woman, and his father. Pretty damming. This should be interesting to see how this plays out. Somehow I don’t think his wife woke up at 3am and decided this was a good day to stab Brandon for no reason. Could be wrong though. Or perhaps Marshall is telling the truth, and it was a drunken flower vase that attacked him. Perhaps his wife is admitting to stabbing him in self defense because it was he favorite vase. Who Knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 yup but hey, look at what WE gave up for Cromartie...who might not be here either 2 entirely different scenarios IMO. The Jets only gave up one second pick (and low one at that) and IIRC no SB$ just salary for one season. IMO Cro was mainly targeted for a SB run, & there's a good possibility he will be resigned. The fish on the other hand got Marshall as a long term solution, gave him an extension with SB$, gave up 2 second Rounders. The fish invested in Marshall, whereas the Jets were only looking at one season. That's why I don't see the fish giving up on him already. Even if he's suspended, they still take the cap hit on his SB and can't get that back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 2 entirely different scenarios IMO. The Jets only gave up one second pick (and low one at that) and IIRC no SB$ just salary for one season. IMO Cro was mainly targeted for a SB run, & there's a good possibility he will be resigned. The fish on the other hand got Marshall as a long term solution, gave him an extension with SB$, gave up 2 second Rounders. The fish invested in Marshall, whereas the Jets were only looking at one season. That's why I don't see the fish giving up on him already. Even if he's suspended, they still take the cap hit on his SB and can't get that back. yea and didn't they give him like 24 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I think that's about right. Although I don't think it will happen, it would be too funny if the fish cut him or trade him for pennies on the dollar after what they invested in him. This acquisition was on the tunas watch too wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 I think that's about right. Although I don't think it will happen, it would be too funny if the fish cut him or trade him for pennies on the dollar after what they invested in him. This acquisition was on the tunas watch too wasn't it? this was an Ireland deal Bill-he listened to what the fans wanted not to what Parcells who had a foot out the door said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Just because he's an a$hole doesnt mean he deserves to be stabbed. I swear some of you act like you're perfect, its just shameful Hopefully he makes a full recovery. So happy we didnt trade for that douche! Let the Phins have him. I hate that. The way grown men act here at times just disgusts me. I for one know that I try to set a much higher standard here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 These domestic abuse cases are weird. Look at Marshall’s record. That many abuse contacts with the police, and no jail? If the woman refuses to testify against him there isn’t much the cops can do unless she is beat to crap. In these high profile cases why would the woman want to kill the golden goose over a black eye? This might be a bit different. She probably is going to be charged with a felony. Looking at jail time. She might feel compelled to defend herself and throw the dirt bag under the bus. Keep in mind that of all the instances in the article I posted above it was two different woman, and his father. Pretty damming. This should be interesting to see how this plays out. Somehow I don’t think his wife woke up at 3am and decided this was a good day to stab Brandon for no reason. Could be wrong though. Or perhaps Marshall is telling the truth, and it was a drunken flower vase that attacked him. Perhaps his wife is admitting to stabbing him in self defense because it was he favorite vase. Who Knows The problem I have with this latest incident is that this woman was also arrested before with Marshall in a previous domestic disturbance. The cops aren't going to arrest a woman if she's defending herself. They would arrest her if they thought she was the aggressor or an equal participant. Now she's arrested again and thus far Marshall hasn't been charged with anything. It's entirely possible she's been the aggressor in these situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 She got arrested because she stabbed him. Two wrongs don't make a right, and they certainly don't absolve either party. Her defense is obviously bullsh*t as well, nobody defends themselves by stabbing somebody else. We'd have to believe she got away, ran to the knife, grabbed it, he still pursued, and she then stabbed him out of desperation. That fails the common sense test. If you see somebody with a knife and you're unarmed the last thing you do is chase them. More than likely they had an argument, she probably slapped him, he got pissed and shoved her, she then ran and got the knife, he told her she's nuts, then she lunged at him and stabbed him. So you'd probably convict the both of them. The wife certainly is guilty of something. Marshall is probably guilty of something too, but you would actually have to prove that one. He, knowing that they'd both wind up in jail if this goes anywhere, tries to cover for her and make the entire thing go away. But clearly this will be more troublesome than they thought. The two of them will probably now attention whore for awhile and then makeup. I saw something similar happen with Tito Ortiz and Jenna Jameson (yes the porn star) several months ago. I knew it'd end up like that as well, because I know both are attention whores. These two probably are too, although the stabbing is taking it to a pretty serious level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 She got arrested because she stabbed him. Two wrongs don't make a right, and they certainly don't absolve either party. Her defense is obviously bullsh*t as well, nobody defends themselves by stabbing somebody else. We'd have to believe she got away, ran to the knife, grabbed it, he still pursued, and she then stabbed him out of desperation. That fails the common sense test. If you see somebody with a knife and you're unarmed the last thing you do is chase them. More than likely they had an argument, she probably slapped him, he got pissed and shoved her, she then ran and got the knife, he told her she's nuts, then she lunged at him and stabbed him. So you'd probably convict the both of them. The wife certainly is guilty of something. Marshall is probably guilty of something too, but you would actually have to prove that one. He, knowing that they'd both wind up in jail if this goes anywhere, tries to cover for her and make the entire thing go away. But clearly this will be more troublesome than they thought. The two of them will probably now attention whore for awhile and then makeup. I saw something similar happen with Tito Ortiz and Jenna Jameson (yes the porn star) several months ago. I knew it'd end up like that as well, because I know both are attention whores. These two probably are too, although the stabbing is taking it to a pretty serious level. Agree with this. Neither are innocent, but trying to find an excuse for stabbing the guy is pretty pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 You know I'm no lawyer or nothin' but I HAVE watched enough episodes of The First 48 to know that lying to the police and saying you fell on a vase is obstruction of justice-is it not? Just remember who the guy is that will be looking at this case and determining whether or not this will be his 3rd offense or not. Suprisingly lying to your local cops is generally no big deal. But it will give them much ammuntion to keep a defendant off the stand when he locks himself into a nonsense story. Lying to an FBI agent...uh, really bad. As to the girl refusing to testify, the DA and police can get medical records and what ever statements she made to doctors, cops or EMTs who responded, and any other eye or sound witnesses or records like 911 calls, local security video, etc. and make a case out of that to make a circumstantial case. Problem is without a victim a jury might consider he won't be confronted by his victim and that goes against his 6th Amendment rights. Also, they can bring in a rior course of condcut between the parties, a pattern of abuse. But as with OJ, it can be ignored by 12 people who are stupid enough to not avoid serving on a criminal jury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Agree with this. Neither are innocent, but trying to find an excuse for stabbing the guy is pretty pathetic. I would think that the cops would have charged Marshall if they could find anything, given his past history and the fact that the male is generally presumed to be the aggressor in these domestic cases. I'm sure they checked the wife over for bruises, scratches, etc. The fact that they didn't charge him with anything at all tends to make me believe he wasn't physical with her in THIS incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridajet Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 A reply to one of the articles concerning this incident. "Hope he’s alright…. The other 31 teams need him causing havoc in that Dolphin locker room' Too good to pass on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Edwards does a TON of volunteer work and donates a lot of money to charities. Edwards is more a case of a genuinely good guy making a few mistakes that get blown out of proportion. There is seriously no comparison between him and Marshall. Seriously look up all the charity and community work Edwards does. Kind of my point, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 If you see somebody with a knife and you're unarmed the last thing you do is chase them. Unless the circumstances are really bizarre...say, you're 6'5" and weigh 240 lbs. and have slapped her around enough to believe she'll never fight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Unless the circumstances are really bizarre...say, you're 6'5" and weigh 240 lbs. and have slapped her around enough to believe she'll never fight back. Absolutely. Domestic violence can be performed in spurts-like, a verbal argument breaks out, the guy gives her a few slaps to shut her up, goes into another room, sits down and works himself into another fury, returns to her to tell her a few things more, hits her again, goes into another room to sit down and thinks things over, works himself into another fury, comes back to her room to tell her a few things more, hits her again, etc etc etc. It is not inconceivable that during one of these sessions she grabs a knife while he's in the other room working himself up for another round of verbal and physical abuse and vows that if he comes back one more time he's going to get the knife in the chest. And does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridajet Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Police report from Broward Cty http://www.sun-sentinel.com/media/acrobat/2011-04/61102106.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Miami Dolphins are worried about troubled Brandon Marshall By Armando Salguero asalguero@MiamiHerald.com Brandon Marshall is not a troublemaker. Not based on this latest incident, not when he was facing the business end of the steely, sharp kitchen knife police said his wife Michi Nogami-Marshall plunged into his abdomen. But not being a troublemaker isn’t good enough in today’s NFL. The Dolphins are now worried about Marshall because, troublemaker or not, they know he is troubled. It has been that way for Marshall’s entire pro career, and that’s the reason his latest unfortunate, sad domestic violence episode stunned neither the Dolphins’ brass nor players. “And this is supposed to surprise me how?” a Dolphins player texted Saturday morning when told of what happened to the Miami wide receiver. Understand that Marshall is the alleged victim here. He did not stab anyone. He was stabbed. So the Dolphins — unable to contact him directly because of the NFL lockout — let their player know they fully support him and want the best for him by sending him well wishes. But despite the strong support, the Dolphins are wary of Marshall’s issues and worried about his future. They don’t know all the facts of Friday’s domestic-violence incident. They don’t know how the whole episode began. And they do know Marshall’s history. And that’s where the concern is born. The Dolphins know Marshall has issues with women based on seven domestic violence incidents with a previous girlfriend, and this second incident with Michi, the first coming in 2009 when they were engaged. Major investment The Dolphins are worried because they have a lot of money and two second-round draft picks invested in Marshall, and uncertainty is no place to be when so much money and such high picks are hanging in the balance. This latest episode raises the possibility the Dolphins might break ties with Marshall. Coach Tony Sparano, general manager Jeff Ireland and the rest of Miami’s brass had to wonder Saturday what Marshall’s future with the team can be if some of the troubles that led to his trade from Denver apparently have followed him here. The Dolphins have to weigh Marshall’s long-term viability with the team because his history suggests trouble is coming again even if that trouble casts Marshall as a victim or a major player in the drama, as he was in the shooting death of former Denver teammate Darrent Williams. The Dolphins, at this time, have no intention to break ties with Marshall, a source said Saturday. Miami reportedly has the option to break away from Marshall by not paying a $3 million option bonus that guarantees the player’s salary through 2012. Not paying that bonus would let Marshall walk after only one season in Miami. But the Dolphins today, right now, have no intention of releasing Marshall in that fashion. They will continue to gather facts about the latest incident and make plans based on those facts with the idea of keeping Marshall. Yes, the team’s direction on the matter can change. But right now, the plan, written in sand rather than concrete, is to keep Marshall. Miami’s greater concern has to do with how to get Marshall healed from his wounds, how to keep him out of trouble in the future and how to do this without being able to actually speak to the guy. The team on Saturday actually had to ask the NFL for permission to talk to a player it has signed to a $47.5 million contract. Permission was denied. The NFL told the Dolphins only team doctors and trainers can talk to Marshall, and that has to be about his health. The club also can talk to Marshall’s private doctor. But the line of communication stops there. Sparano can’t talk to Marshall. Ireland can’t talk to Marshall. Marshall is off limits to the Dolphins until the NFL lockout is lifted “Very frustrating,” one club source texted. The NFL lockout has suspended the NFL’s personal-conduct policy, so the league will neither investigate nor pass judgment on Friday’s crime with any immediacy. But because Marshall is a two-time policy offender and was suspended for a game previously, fair or not, he will be on the league’s radar when the lockout ends. Legal issues aside The details of the weekend episode between Marshall and his wife might be better known by then. We might know what Michi meant exactly when she told police she stabbed Marshall in self-defense. That’s a legal issue for law enforcement and the criminal and civil lawyers to figure out. The issues the Dolphins must figure regarding Marshall could be equally complicated. With Marshall, the Dolphins are no longer just worried about how to get him the ball when he’s double-covered. The issues are no longer limited to finding a way for Marshall and quarterback Chad Henne to agree in a relationship that last season suffered obvious discord. The greater issue for the Dolphins is how to keep troubled Brandon Marshall out of trouble. Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/24/2182514/miami-dolphins-are-worried-about.html#storylink=omni_popular#ixzz1KY2oc05D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 the potentially devastating part of that story (as far as the Dolphins and Marshall are concerned) is in the police report when she told the Miami PD that she "acted in self defense" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Brandon Marshall is not a troublemaker. Not based on this latest incident, not when he was facing the business end of the steely, sharp kitchen knife police said his wife Michi Nogami-Marshall plunged into his abdomen. Sometimes I think Armando Salguero exists for the sole purpose of periodically reminding us that our beat writers aren't the worst in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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