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Saw Knives Out with the family last night. It was fun watching that great cast ham it up, but the story sucked and the end was flat. It was as if a talentless hack who really liked Poirot tried to write an episode of Poirot and failed miserably because writing a smart whodunnit is incredibly hard. Then I saw that Rian Johnson had written it and it all made sense. 

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On 10/10/2019 at 9:47 AM, T0mShane said:

But reimagining him as a populist icon and symbol of proletariat revolution was brilliant, and casting the Wayne family as out of touch elites who need to be taken down was breathtaking in a way. Like, holy sh*t, Batman is actually a foot soldier of capitalist excess and social inequality? Batman is a cop? It’s brilliant. 

Havent seen it yet but this is pretty common theme in movies of this type. Doesnt sound brilliant as much as a well worn tactic. In 2019 a director portraying the rich white guy as the adaptational villian and the classic big bad as misunderstod antihero is kind of par for the course. Bernie bros are probably giddy, if Batman just paid his fair share the benevolent government would take care of us all //swoons

Still, I'm sure I'll like it, Phoenix is good in just about everything but I'd have walked in to the theater expecting something similar.

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32 minutes ago, CTM said:

Havent seen it yet but this is pretty common theme in movies of this type. Doesnt sound brilliant as much as a well worn tactic. In 2019 a director portraying the rich white guy as the adaptational villian and the classic big bad as misunderstod antihero is kind of par for the course. Bernie bros are probably giddy, if Batman just paid his fair share the benevolent government would take care of us all //swoons

Still, I'm sure I'll like it, Phoenix is good in just about everything but I'd have walked in to the theater expecting something similar.

To be clear, I wasn't all that invested in the political messaging, but as a kid growing up in deep, dark love with Batman (as opposed to the jingoistic tripe that was Superman), I just thought it was a clever turn and an interesting way to revisit the ethos of a rich guy who chooses to fight crime. Thinking back, the unique threat presented by the Joker character was always more symbolic, in that was a chaos agent who better reflected the social reality of Gotham than Batman and Gordon ever could, and that's why Batman had such a hard-on for him. As a kid, I couldn't square how Batman would be so perturbed by a skinny clown who couldn't even fistfight. This movie really answered that. 

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3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

To be clear, I wasn't all that invested in the political messaging, but as a kid growing up in deep, dark love with Batman (as opposed to the jingoistic tripe that was Superman), I just thought it was a clever turn and an interesting way to revisit the ethos of a rich guy who chooses to fight crime. IIRC, the unique threat presented by the Joker character was always more symbolic, in that was a chaos agent who better reflected the social reality of Gotham than Batman and Gordon ever could, and that's why Batman had such a hard-on for him. I'm sure @RutgersJetFan might disagree. 

I'm just commenting on the idea that in 2019 this would be some mind blowing take, this is fairly well worn turf for hollywood by now. I'm not really invested in comic books at all, so I've not put as much thought into this or have any emotional attachment to the characters or the universe

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16 hours ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

Pesci was fine. Graham was fine. Everything else about it was spectacularly terrible.

I liked it. Scorcese is still a guilty Catholic at heart. Pacino was peculiar. Was that him having his usual "Scent of a Woman"/"Donnie Brasco"  fun, or was that the idea? 

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3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

To be clear, I wasn't all that invested in the political messaging, but as a kid growing up in deep, dark love with Batman (as opposed to the jingoistic tripe that was Superman), I just thought it was a clever turn and an interesting way to revisit the ethos of a rich guy who chooses to fight crime. Thinking back, the unique threat presented by the Joker character was always more symbolic, in that was a chaos agent who better reflected the social reality of Gotham than Batman and Gordon ever could, and that's why Batman had such a hard-on for him. As a kid, I couldn't square how Batman would be so perturbed by a skinny clown who couldn't even fistfight. This movie really answered that. 

I'm assuming you edited my mention out because you didn't want me to blind you with my super kewl knowledge.

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1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said:

I'm assuming you edited my mention out because you didn't want me to blind you with my super kewl knowledge.

I had edited my original post to clarify that I previously didn't have these thoughts about the Joker and the part where I @'ed you didn't make the final version

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8 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Saw Knives Out with the family last night. It was fun watching that great cast ham it up, but the story sucked and the end was flat. It was as if a talentless hack who really liked Poirot tried to write an episode of Poirot and failed miserably because writing a smart whodunnit is incredibly hard. Then I saw that Rian Johnson had written it and it all made sense. 

Did it subvert your expectations? Did it BREAK NEW GROUND??

 

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8 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Saw Knives Out with the family last night. It was fun watching that great cast ham it up, but the story sucked and the end was flat. It was as if a talentless hack who really liked Poirot tried to write an episode of Poirot and failed miserably because writing a smart whodunnit is incredibly hard. Then I saw that Rian Johnson had written it and it all made sense. 

You get your whole life to write the first record and then you get six months to write the second one. It happens to everybody but it's extra disappointing when you have to watch somebody backslide from Brick to VIII.

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6 hours ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

You get your whole life to write the first record and then you get six months to write the second one. It happens to everybody but it's extra disappointing when you have to watch somebody backslide from Brick to VIII.

There’s definitely a cap on the amount of really good content any one artist has access to within their own mind. 

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4 hours ago, T0mShane said:

There’s definitely a cap on the amount of really good content any one artist has access to within their own mind. 

This is precisely the argument made by TV writers now with respect to why the writing for TV has gotten so good since The Sopranos. The industry caught on. In that you can take your one good idea and parlay it into several seasons worth of shows. With a feature, that’s it and you’re on to the next one. In 2019 because viewers watch series as much as features, it creates the demand, and thus much of the new talent in LA opts for the former because of the freedom and security it brings. 

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On 11/29/2019 at 6:23 AM, T0mShane said:

Saw Knives Out with the family last night. It was fun watching that great cast ham it up, but the story sucked and the end was flat. It was as if a talentless hack who really liked Poirot tried to write an episode of Poirot and failed miserably because writing a smart whodunnit is incredibly hard. Then I saw that Rian Johnson had written it and it all made sense. 

I feel like this would have been a lot better if they stopped production halfway through and put Christopher Guest in charge of salvaging the footage.

Having the Gravity's Rainbow riff delivered by 007 playing Sam Spade as Colonel Sanders was pretty inspired tho.

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On 11/30/2019 at 3:02 AM, RutgersJetFan said:

This is precisely the argument made by TV writers now with respect to why the writing for TV has gotten so good since The Sopranos. The industry caught on. In that you can take your one good idea and parlay it into several seasons worth of shows. With a feature, that’s it and you’re on to the next one. In 2019 because viewers watch series as much as features, it creates the demand, and thus much of the new talent in LA opts for the former because of the freedom and security it brings. 

I think of all the TV shows that went from good to great when the writers room expanded, and also those that never reached their potential because of one-note writing. True Detective, for instance had some great characters and dialogue, but couldn’t stick the landing. Game of Thrones’ last three seasons. 

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14 hours ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

I feel like this would have been a lot better if they stopped production halfway through and put Christopher Guest in charge of salvaging the footage.

Having the Gravity's Rainbow riff delivered by 007 playing Sam Spade as Colonel Sanders was pretty inspired tho.

What was your thought overall. Two days removed, I’ve filed it under “Not great, but I’m glad a movie like this got made.”

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Saw "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood" earlier this week.Comparatively, if you're going to have your excuse for a plot consist of your actors checking boxes of your typical Tarantino movie items, it should be fun. And this is. Again, I liked "The irishman", in the sense it's better than a lot of things out there. But compared to that, felt often like drudgery. It checked the Scorcese/mob movie boxes, but not nearly as fun. 

Read the book a while back. Big plot hole; why does the mafia insist an old guy drive/fly halfway across the country to do ....that? Created a dramatic end to a story, but makes no sense. Frank Sheeran may have been totally full of....

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6 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I think of all the TV shows that went from good to great when the writers room expanded, and also those that never reached their potential because of one-note writing. True Detective, for instance had some great characters and dialogue, but couldn’t stick the landing. Game of Thrones’ last three seasons. 

My understanding of both those shows is that they are both anomalies. In that True Detective S1 was something that the dude had literally been working on his whole life and GoT was this quasi-adaption of the books. Neither are generally the case for the majority of successful shows right now.

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When I first saw John Wick, I didn’t like it too much and called it “unnecessary,” because it came out around the same time as a bunch of other revenge flicks, and I couldn’t reconcile that Wick was supposed to be this unmatched assassin but also got his ass mostly kicked in literally every confrontation he had in the film. But now, after seeing the ensuing sequels and reading a really good piece suggesting that the series, taken together, is a meditation on grief and loss (specifically Reeves’), I find myself always watching any of the films whenever I see them on anywhere. Pure brain candy

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On 11/4/2019 at 8:55 AM, Untouchable said:

Watched ‘Bone Tomahawk’ on Amazon last night.

Best damn western since ‘Unforgiven’.

Kurt Russell was awesome and the last half hour is f*cking brutal.

Just started watching this, the first few minutes. WOW.

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Put together favorite/best movies of the the decade list. My apologies to all the Marvel/DC/Star Wars fans.


1. The Social Network (2010)
2. Her (2013)
3. Once Upon a Time… In Hollywood (2019)
4. Inside Llewyn Davis (2013)
5. Parasite (2019)
6. The Favourite (2018)
7. Victoria (2015)
8. The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014)
9. Ex Machina (2014)
10. Green Room (2016)
11. It Follows (2015)
12. Midsommar (2019)
13. Eighth Grade (2018)
14. Jojo Rabbit (2019)
15. Frances Ha (2012)
16. Inside Out (2015)
17. Blue Ruin (2013)
18. Black Mirror: San Junipero (2017)
19. Cold War (2018)
20. Get Out (2017)
21. Spotlight (2015)
22. Django Unchained (2012)
23. Whiplash (2014)
24. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (2010)
25. The Death of Stalin (2018)
26. Prisoners (2013)
27. Moonlight (2016)
28. Moonrise Kingdom (2012)
29. The Hateful Eight (2015)
30. Bone Tomahawk (2015)
31. Sicario (2015)
32. Wildlife (2018)
33. Moneyball (2011)
34. The Death of Dick Long (2019)
35. Birdman (2014)
36. Free Solo (2019)
37. Max Max: Fury Road (2015)
38. Short Term 12 (2013)
39. The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)
40. Manchester by the Sea (2016)
41. The Nightingale (2019)
42. Dunkirk (2017)
43. Gone Girl (2014)
44. The Killing of a Sacred Deer (2017)
45. The Big Sick (2017)
46. What We Do in the Shadows (2014)
47. Captain Fantastic (2016)
48. Hereditary (2018)
49. Good Time (2017)
50. If Beale Street Could Talk (2018)
51. The Lighthouse (2019)
52. The Revenant (2015)
53. First Reformed (2018)
54. The Town (2010)
55. Jiro Dreams of Sushi (2011)
56. Drive (2011)
57. Infinitely Polar Bear (2015)
58. Sing Street (2016)
59. Joker (2019)
60. Blue is the Warmest Color (2013)
61. Lady Bird (2017)
62. Wild Tales (2015)
63. 20 Feet from Stardom (2012)
64. Me and Early and the Dying Girl (2015)
65. Nightcrawler (2014)
66. Tigers Are Not Afraid (2019)
67. The Florida Project (2017)
68. Enemy (2013)
69. Minding the Gap (2018)
70. Heaven Knows What (2015)
71. Honey Boy (2019)
72. The Central Park Five (2012)
73. Meru (2015)
74. Gravity (2013)
75. Midnight in Paris (2011)
76. Wild Rose (2019)
77. The Skeleton Twins (2014)
78. Thoroughbreds (2017)
79. Coco (2017)
80. Carol (2015)
81. Amy (2015)
82. Her Smell (2019)
83. Roma (2018)
84. Booksmart (2019)
85. Margin Call (2011)
86. Beasts of No Nation (2015)
87. Won’t You Be My Neighbor (2018)
88. Ides of March (2011)
89. Under Silver Lake (2019)
90. Kumiko, the Treasure Hunter (2015)
91. Apollo 11 (2019)
92. 12 Years a Slave (2013)
93. Arrival (2016)
94. Beasts of the Southern Wild (2015)
95. Winter on Fire (2015)
96. The Big Short (2015)
97. Sorry to Bother You (2018)
98. Black Mirror: USS Callister (2018)
99. Blue Valentine (2010)

100. A Most Violent Year (2014)

 

 

 

 

 

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Favorite/best of 2019. Still have plenty to see before end of the year. Waves, Knives Out, Marriage Story, Uncut Gems being the big one's.

 

50. Yesterday

49 Late Night

48. In the Shadow of the Moon

47. Triple Frontier

46. Them That Follow

45. Official Secrets

44. Little Woods

43. The King

42. Ad Astra

41. Downton Abbey

40. By the Grace of God

39. Hustlers

38. Skin

37. The Last Black Man in San Fransisco

36. Diane

35. Mike Wallace is Here

34. Ash is Purest White

33. Teen Spirit

32. Luce

31. The Elephant Queen

30. Greta

29. Echo in the Canyon

28. Guava Island

27. The Souvenir

26. Ready or Not

25. The Report

24. Arctic

23. American Factory

22. The Irishman

21. Climax

20. The Farewell

19. The Dead Don't Die

18. The Peanut Butter Falcon

17. High Flying Bird

16. Us

15. Apollo 11

14. Under Silver Lake

13. Booksmart

12. Her Smell

11. Wild Rose

10. Honey Boy

9. Tigers Are Not Afraid

8. Joker

7. The Lighthouse

6. The Nightingale

5. The Death of Dick Long

4. Jojo Rabbit

3. Midsommer

2. Parasite

1. Once Upon a Time In... Hollywood

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2 hours ago, Morrissey said:

Put together favorite/best movies of the the decade list. My apologies to all the Marvel/DC/Star Wars fans.


1. The Social Network (2010)
2. Her (2013)
3. Once Upon a Time… In Hollywood (2019)
4. Inside Llewyn Davis (2013)
5. Parasite (2019)
6. The Favourite (2018)
7. Victoria (2015)
8. The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014)
9. Ex Machina (2014)
10. Green Room (2016)
11. It Follows (2015)
12. Midsommar (2019)
13. Eighth Grade (2018)
14. Jojo Rabbit (2019)
15. Frances Ha (2012)
16. Inside Out (2015)
17. Blue Ruin (2013)
18. Black Mirror: San Junipero (2017)
19. Cold War (2018)
20. Get Out (2017)
21. Spotlight (2015)
22. Django Unchained (2012)
23. Whiplash (2014)
24. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (2010)
25. The Death of Stalin (2018)
26. Prisoners (2013)
27. Moonlight (2016)
28. Moonrise Kingdom (2012)
29. The Hateful Eight (2015)
30. Bone Tomahawk (2015)
31. Sicario (2015)
32. Wildlife (2018)
33. Moneyball (2011)
34. The Death of Dick Long (2019)
35. Birdman (2014)
36. Free Solo (2019)
37. Max Max: Fury Road (2015)
38. Short Term 12 (2013)
39. The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)
40. Manchester by the Sea (2016)
41. The Nightingale (2019)
42. Dunkirk (2017)
43. Gone Girl (2014)
44. The Killing of a Sacred Deer (2017)
45. The Big Sick (2017)
46. What We Do in the Shadows (2014)
47. Captain Fantastic (2016)
48. Hereditary (2018)
49. Good Time (2017)
50. If Beale Street Could Talk (2018)
51. The Lighthouse (2019)
52. The Revenant (2015)
53. First Reformed (2018)
54. The Town (2010)
55. Jiro Dreams of Sushi (2011)
56. Drive (2011)
57. Infinitely Polar Bear (2015)
58. Sing Street (2016)
59. Joker (2019)
60. Blue is the Warmest Color (2013)
61. Lady Bird (2017)
62. Wild Tales (2015)
63. 20 Feet from Stardom (2012)
64. Me and Early and the Dying Girl (2015)
65. Nightcrawler (2014)
66. Tigers Are Not Afraid (2019)
67. The Florida Project (2017)
68. Enemy (2013)
69. Minding the Gap (2018)
70. Heaven Knows What (2015)
71. Honey Boy (2019)
72. The Central Park Five (2012)
73. Meru (2015)
74. Gravity (2013)
75. Midnight in Paris (2011)
76. Wild Rose (2019)
77. The Skeleton Twins (2014)
78. Thoroughbreds (2017)
79. Coco (2017)
80. Carol (2015)
81. Amy (2015)
82. Her Smell (2019)
83. Roma (2018)
84. Booksmart (2019)
85. Margin Call (2011)
86. Beasts of No Nation (2015)
87. Won’t You Be My Neighbor (2018)
88. Ides of March (2011)
89. Under Silver Lake (2019)
90. Kumiko, the Treasure Hunter (2015)
91. Apollo 11 (2019)
92. 12 Years a Slave (2013)
93. Arrival (2016)
94. Beasts of the Southern Wild (2015)
95. Winter on Fire (2015)
96. The Big Short (2015)
97. Sorry to Bother You (2018)
98. Black Mirror: USS Callister (2018)
99. Blue Valentine (2010)

100. A Most Violent Year (2014)

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Morrissey said:

Favorite/best of 2019. Still have plenty to see before end of the year. Waves, Knives Out, Marriage Story, Uncut Gems being the big one's.

 

50. Yesterday

49 Late Night

48. In the Shadow of the Moon

47. Triple Frontier

46. Them That Follow

45. Official Secrets

44. Little Woods

43. The King

42. Ad Astra

41. Downton Abbey

40. By the Grace of God

39. Hustlers

38. Skin

37. The Last Black Man in San Fransisco

36. Diane

35. Mike Wallace is Here

34. Ash is Purest White

33. Teen Spirit

32. Luce

31. The Elephant Queen

30. Greta

29. Echo in the Canyon

28. Guava Island

27. The Souvenir

26. Ready or Not

25. The Report

24. Arctic

23. American Factory

22. The Irishman

21. Climax

20. The Farewell

19. The Dead Don't Die

18. The Peanut Butter Falcon

17. High Flying Bird

16. Us

15. Apollo 11

14. Under Silver Lake

13. Booksmart

12. Her Smell

11. Wild Rose

10. Honey Boy

9. Tigers Are Not Afraid

8. Joker

7. The Lighthouse

6. The Nightingale

5. The Death of Dick Long

4. Jojo Rabbit

3. Midsommer

2. Parasite

1. Once Upon a Time In... Hollywood

 

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16 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I couldn’t reconcile that Wick was supposed to be this unmatched assassin but also got his ass mostly kicked in literally every confrontation he had in the film.

I’m not sure why, but I actually enjoyed this bit. Reminded me of one of the better running gags from Justified, which is that Raylan is basically John Wesley Hardin with a gun, but anytime he has to use his fists he gets his sh*t absolutely wrecked

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