F.Chowds Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 TheJetsStream Manish Mehta Mr. @michaelombardi reporting Texans have "moved into the lead" for Nnamdi Asomugha. $12-14M/year. #nyj #jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The #1b CB in the entire NFL is considering coming to the Jets, because of the Coach, and the fact that he wants a RING. He's even considering taking less money to do it... and the icing on the cake is that CB #1a is already on our roster, and its a roster full of talent. Seriously. SERIOUSLY. I understand the "don't overpay" concerns, but honestly... did you EVER think the Jets would be in this position, ever? Rex Ryan has to this point been better than anything I could have ever imagined. I've been in position to hook up with my ex-wife. Doesn't make it a good idea. Now it's 10%? All the haters had been saying 20%... 350%... all the gold in China... lately... You spend to get better... I am sure Rex and Tanny weighed the options of whether they could use the 5 million they save but not signing Nnamdi on upgrading other roles... You act as if the 5 million they save by not signing Nnamdi will make the team better for certain... 10% for just Aso. 20% for Aso + Revis. Way too much money allocated to one position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 michaelombardi Michael Lombardi Hearing Houston has moved into the lead for Nnamdi Asomugha—money will be in the 12-14 mill per year range...Revis makes 11.5 per year 14 million to play for a team that's never made the playoffs or 12 million to play for the Jets. If Nnamdi signs with Houston is a money grubbing whore. Plus, Lombardi is a moron. Revis' cap number is 11.3, his actually pay is closer to 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Let's go Texans!!! lol Seriously though, it's becoming obvious Nnamdi doesnt want to be in the same division as Brian Hartline....he's scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 GO HOuston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 If he was gonna sign with the Jets he would've already. Time to look back at Cro and Braylon. Most likely. It seems like Braylon's price tag has been brought down as well. Haven't really heard too many teams interested in him. Makes sense to try and bring him back. Losing Asomugha isnt devastating by any stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 GO HOUSTON!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 14 million to play for a team that's never made the playoffs or 12 million to play for the Jets. If Nnamdi signs with Houston is a money grubbing whore. Plus, Lombardi is a moron. Revis' cap number is 11.3, his actually pay is closer to 15. If he ends up in Houston it's clearly about money. So be it. Thats usually what it's about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 If he ends up in Houston it's clearly about money. So be it. Thats usually what it's about. Well, hopefully Christie's will auction off a legacy when he retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Explain this to me. They structured Santonio's deal so it counts very little against the cap this year, they ignore Braylon so much that he's convinced his future isn't with the team, not a single mention of Cromartie yet... So if it's not Aso that they're targeting then who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Actually, while I'd love to see the two best db's play on the same team, what the defense really needs is a stud pass rush specialist. You have to hit the qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Actually, while I'd love to see the two best db's play on the same team, what the defense really needs is a stud pass rush specialist. You have to hit the qb. No one in free agency like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The players union isn't going to let him leave $10 million on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The players union isn't going to let him leave $10 million on the table. If that's the case, then the union isn't worth sh*t. If, for example he had a choice between a Super Bowl contender and say, the Panthers or Bills and the union forced him to play in misery for the rest of his life, then that union should not be called a player's union, it should be called The Soviet Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 If that's the case, then the union isn't worth sh*t. If, for example he had a choice between a Super Bowl contender and say, the Panthers or Bills and the union forced him to play in misery for the rest of his life, then that union should not be called a player's union, it should be called The Soviet Union. They can't force him to do anything. But they will pressure him to take the higher offer if the difference is significant. By the way, I like the Soviet Union line. Good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 So if Aso becomes a Jet, I'm officially not drafting a single AFC East WR in fantasy this year... three reasons, 1.) Revis, 2.) Asomugha, 3.) Ryan Fitzpatrick and Chad Henne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The players union isn't going to let him leave $10 million on the table. So, a player is never allowed to sign with any other team other than the highest bidder. That's what you're saying, right? Where do they draw the line between significant and insignificant. Is it a fine line, a judgement call like the difference between a charge and a block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The players union isn't going to let him leave $10 million on the table. This is never ever true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 If he ends up in Houston it's clearly about money. So be it. Thats usually what it's about. You guys are out of your minds. Unlike the Jets, the Texans already have a championship caliber offense in place. They're actually doing the smart thing by addressing their weaknesses. Aso moves them from also-ran to contender. He makes much more sense for them than for us. What the Jets should be trying to do is put together a championship caliber offense of their own. They already have the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 You guys are out of your minds. Unlike the Jets, the Texans already have a championship caliber offense in place. They're actually doing the smart thing by addressing their weaknesses. Aso moves them from also-ran to contender. He makes much more sense for them than for us. What the Jets should be trying to do is put together a championship caliber offense of their own. They already have the defense. I've been hearing this about the Texans for three years. Wake me when they clinch a wild-card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 You guys are out of your minds. Unlike the Jets, the Texans already have a championship caliber offense in place. They're actually doing the smart thing by addressing their weaknesses. Aso moves them from also-ran to contender. He makes much more sense for them than for us. What the Jets should be trying to do is put together a championship caliber offense of their own. They already have the defense. If they had a championship caliber offense they would've made the playoffs once in their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 You guys are out of your minds. Unlike the Jets, the Texans already have a championship caliber offense in place. They're actually doing the smart thing by addressing their weaknesses. Aso moves them from also-ran to contender. He makes much more sense for them than for us. What the Jets should be trying to do is put together a championship caliber offense of their own. They already have the defense. The Texans are always a step away from being championship caliber, then it turns out they're not even playoff caliber. Joke of a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 You guys are out of your minds. Unlike the Jets, the Texans already have a championship caliber offense in place. They're actually doing the smart thing by addressing their weaknesses. Aso moves them from also-ran to contender. He makes much more sense for them than for us. What the Jets should be trying to do is put together a championship caliber offense of their own. They already have the defense. Texans would be in the 12-4 range with Aso... they also have good edge pass rushers... scary actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 You guys are out of your minds. Unlike the Jets, the Texans already have a championship caliber offense in place. They're actually doing the smart thing by addressing their weaknesses. Aso moves them from also-ran to contender. He makes much more sense for them than for us. What the Jets should be trying to do is put together a championship caliber offense of their own. They already have the defense. I love you but you are trying so hard to prove you're right that it's making you look like you're wrong. So say Aso goes to the Texans, you're happy over paying Cromartie at 9mill a year and still losing out on Braylon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I've been hearing this about the Texans for three years. Wake me when they clinch a wild-card. If they had a championship caliber offense they would've made the playoffs once in their history. Their defense -particularly their pass defense- is terrible. Aso comes in and shuts down the opponents #1 target the way Revis does here? That's huge for them. And a much bigger impact than he'd have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I love you but you are trying so hard to prove you're right that it's making you look like you're wrong. So say Aso goes to the Texans, you're happy over paying Cromartie at 9mill a year and still losing out on Braylon? I'm not saying anything like that. I'd sign Braylon long before I signed Cromartie. If Cro were still there after that, then I'd talk to him, too. I really don't see him generating that $9M figure that's been thrown around about him. And the longer this goes, the lower their numbers are going to be, IMHO. I think it might be possible to land both these guys for the $12M they were willing to spend on Aso. But we'll see. And Jason already agreed with me on Aso, so there's nothing left for me to prove, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Their defense -particularly their pass defense- is terrible. Aso comes in and shuts down the opponents #1 target the way Revis does here? That's huge for them. And a much bigger impact than he'd have here. while i agree nnamdi will put the texans in the playoffs,i still disagree on what nnamdi can do for our defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 So who cares? This about the jets getting better.. not Houston getting better.. I think this is all crap from lombardi.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Never count tanny out... He gets what he wants.. rarely do they lose out on anything.. guy talked brett favre into playing for us... While Clayton.. peter king.. and everyone else was saying no way he goes to us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 So who cares? This about the jets getting better.. not Houston getting better.. I think this is all crap from lombardi.. i am in favor at signing nnamdi at 12m. but not a penny more. thats the limit. but this waiting game is starting to make me feel a little nervous. tanny probably already pissed cro and edwards off. a move has got to come today or tanny must start operation "look elsewhere". hopefully tanny waiting on nnamdi doesnt leave the jets holding the bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Their defense -particularly their pass defense- is terrible. Aso comes in and shuts down the opponents #1 target the way Revis does here? That's huge for them. And a much bigger impact than he'd have here. Is this what the whole argument is about? Bigger impact? If that's the case you win, I'm not going to argue hypothetical situations. I could just as easily say that who else do the Texans have to cover #2 or slots or TE? The Texans have a nice D-Line but it's not like during his years in Oakland did they ever have a great defense. Football is more about scheme and how players fit into it. It's not basketball where you add one piece and it'll make a unit elite or not. During his years in Oakland, yes they were a dumpster fire, but I still fail to see how he doesn't help us. Being a person who enjoys defense far more I see Aso as more of a pure fit into the Jets scheme, far more than Cromartie. Because of that he's going to have a bigger impact on our D than Cro. Onto the otherside of the ball, I see the Jets as a ball-control/run offense. Your love affair with Braylon is getting quality for our not-great QB. Braylon is best going up and getting balls. We're just not that kind of offense. Maybe one or two plays a game do we do that, and if you want to get nerdy I'm sure someone could give you a statistic on the chances of those plays being completed. Yes he blocks, big plus but at the end of the day Santonio fits more into what we do than Braylon. Braylon to me isn't the type of receiver that's going to get you 8 catches a game because he's going to run deep. That is replaceable, we need someone like Holmes and I'm glad we secured him. Braylon is good for 2-3 big plays a game max. Aso changes the game the entire time he's on the field. He's a Calvin Johnson level talent where you have to account for him every snap. Braylon is not that. And their impacts to each team lies in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 michaelombardi Michael Lombardi Hearing Houston has moved into the lead for Nnamdi Asomugha—money will be in the 12-14 mill per year range...Revis makes 11.5 per year what does this mean,the texans are in the lead? nnamdi is leaning towards the texans or are they the top bidder?lombardi stirring sh*t up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Also let me say I love Braylon. This is one of the few times I'm actually bummed out about a player not returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Is this what the whole argument is about? Bigger impact? If that's the case you win, I'm not going to argue hypothetical situations. To a certain degree, yes. It doesn't make sense for the Jets to sign Aso to be a #2 CB at $11-12M/year when they already have Revis. His job will be to cover #2 WR's most of the time. Maybe they move Revis around a little more, but so what? He's awesome just sitting on #1 WR's. Why do the Jets need to move him? Without Aso, the Jets have one of the best pass defenses in the league. On the other hand, it does make sense for the Texans to pay the guy to be their #1 CB, in hopes of improving maybe the worst pass defense in the NFL. You want to get bang back for your bucks, especially when you're spending that many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 To a certain degree, yes. It doesn't make sense for the Jets to sign Aso to be a #2 CB at $11-12M/year when they already have Revis. His job will be to cover #2 WR's most of the time. Maybe they move Revis around a little more, but so what? He's awesome just sitting on #1 WR's. Why do the Jets need to move him? Without Aso, the Jets have one of the best pass defenses in the league. On the other hand, it does make sense for the Texans to pay the guy to be their #1 CB, in hopes of improving maybe the worst pass defense in the NFL. You want to get bang back for your bucks, especially when you're spending that many. You win. I still love you my dirty hippie friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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