Nnamdi Asomugha Thread: MERGED

[SoFlaJets]

Not be a dick to the JN Captain, but did this need its own thread?

I feel like I'm having/reading the same conversation in like 3 different places.

Yea I felt it needed to be discussed in this way JiF. I'm following this all on Twitter with hundreds of Jets fans and I've never seen this fan base react this way to possibly losing a player-never. Almost to a man 9and woman) everybody wants Braylon Edwards back and if it costs us Nmambi Asomugha it wouldn't matter to I'd say 90% of us. Oh yea, and I'm no captain nor do I want the honor bestowed upon me.

[TNJet]

Agreed 100%

I'm not sure if I've ever agreed with you before.

Here's the thing that those who think we dont need Aso are missing. Rex puts a very high value on CB's. We are working both Cro and Aso right now, so we knows this is true. While I agree, D is Rex's bread and butter. I think Rex realizes that he needs 2 CB's to get past Manning, Brady, BigRape and some emerging talent in the AFC..and then potentially facing a Rodgers in the SB...shesh.

2 years ago, when Revis had one of the best seasons ever for a CB, the Jets had one of the best secondaries in the league. You cant expect that type of a season every year and we were only 9-7...hell, it didnt happen last year, we might not have won 11 games and make the playoffs if we didnt have Cro to step up and help us win 2 games with Revis injured.

During that season, our trip was a little easier to the AFCG. We faced Palmer, who sucks and Rivers who is much easier to game plan for than Manning and Brady. Then, guess who bounced us? Manning and the Colts...why? Because we didnt have anyone to stop Garcon.

I see the case for maybe getting a true #2 and not another #1 and getting another WR. But if there is one thing that I trust about the NY Jets, its Rex Ryan's knowledge of defense. If he thinks Aso is worth it, then Aso is mother ******* worth it. I cant imagine what his mad scientist like mind is cooking up the thought of having those 2 players.

Agree 100%. Who says vols and gators cant get along?

[Integrity28]

I agree with this but there is some issue with waiting on Nnamdi while other potential FA get signed. We lose Braylon and we are in a sh*t heap of trouble on offense. I mean we already are with sh*tty running the show. How did we do in the playoffs with the number 1 defense in the NFL a few years ago ? Our worn out Defense got Torched by Peyton Manning in teh AFCCG. Last year our Offense improved slightly and our defense did better in the playoffs until they laid an egg in the first half vs the Steelers so what do the Jets do ? They do nothing on offense and possibly lose Edwards to boot along with Brad Smith who at the very least gets the attention of defenses. If this does not concern you Im not sure what you think will happen after friday or what we have up our sleves.

No offense bro, but take a ******* pill.

Our front office has shown that it is one of the most diligent and ambitious in football, as well as one of the most methodical.

If they haven't done anything to satiate the fans yet, I don't care. I'm not going to lose my sh*t because the Pats traded for a couple scrubs who were awesome in Madden 4 years ago. The contracts being signed around the league right now are absurd. Eric Weddle just became the highest paid safety in football if I'm not mistaken. Any organization blow wads of cash right now is stupid... if the Jets are going to over-pay anyone, it should be someone that is the best at the position he plays. Aso is that.

I'd be pissed if we were breaking the bank and mortgaging the future on guys like Weddle... but Aso is worth the wait.

I also wish people would stop talking about Braylon like his production is irreplaceable. Its silly.

Sorry if I don't join the freak out... I just don't see anything wrong with what the Jets are doing right now.

[JiFtheOracle]

And it was the first time they lost a SB last decade.

I hear ya. Thats all that matters...but come'on...they were a fluke play away from an undefeated season. Still dont see what your post had to do with signing BE first

Yea I felt it needed to be discussed in this way JiF. I'm following this all on Twitter with hundreds of Jets fans and I've never seen this fan base react this way to possibly losing a player-never. Almost to a man 9and woman) everybody wants Braylon Edwards back and if it costs us Nmambi Asomugha it wouldn't matter to I'd say 90% of us. Oh yea, and I'm no captain nor do I want the honor bestowed upon me.

Well, I answered you seriously a couple of posts above. I think its a pretty fair perspective.

And people are acting like we are losing Jerry Rice...we're not. He's a good player, not great. IMO Aso has 3x the value to this team.

You're my captain.

Agree 100%. Who says vols and gators cant get along?

[ECURB]

How do you discuss signing a player that will command $10+ mill per year without considering the money aspect? That's like trying to have sex without a boner. Or something like that.

I cannot picture you making that joke in person, but on the interwebz... high five! lol

[SoFlaJets]

I hear ya. Thats all that matters...but come'on...they were a fluke play away from an undefeated season. Still dont see what your post had to do with signing BE first

Well, I answered you seriously a couple of posts above. I think its a pretty fair perspective.

And people are acting like we are losing Jerry Rice...we're not. He's a good player, not great. IMO Aso has 3x the value to this team.

You're my captain.

so we've already lost Brad Smith and his what-3 Tds last year and now we're looking at losing another 7 TDs because of Asomugha...that's 10 TD's less-where are we going to make that up?

[Smashmouth]

so we've already lost Brad Smith and his what-3 Tds last year and now we're looking at losing another 7 TDs because of Asomugha...that's 10 TD's less-where are we going to make that up?

Brad Smith was someone defenses had to account for when he came in the game not to mention his kick return and coverage abilities. Whos retuning kicks for the Jets next year ?

[flgreen]

Asomugha uncertainty hindering Jets

Gang Green has plenty to do, but until Nnamdi makes a decision, everything is on hold

Cimini By Rich Cimini

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The New York Jets are being held hostage by Nnamdi Asomugha.

As the star cornerback weighs his offers and mulls his football future, the Jets -- one of his suitors -- are paralyzed by the uncertainty.

It cost them a chance to re-sign all-purpose star Brad Smith, who told ESPNNewYork.com Thursday in an e-mail that "everything with the Jets was contingent on Nnamdi." In other words, the Jets wanted Smith to wait before they made an offer.

Smith didn't want to wait. Not only that, he was willing to accept a four-year, $15 million offer from the Buffalo Bills -- the AFC's Land of the Lost -- rather than wait for Asomugha to pick his next employer. Chances are, the Jets would've lost Smith anyway, but they remained in the on-deck circle, never stepping up to the plate.

The Jets, Houston Texans and San Francisco 49ers are said to be the front-runners for Asomugha, with ever-changing rumors about which team is the so-called favorite.

GM Mike Tannenbaum has plenty of items on his to-do list, but he can't proceed because of salary-cap considerations and the enormous financial commitment it would take to sign Asomugha, the consensus top player in the free-agent class.

So they wait.

The Jets did wrap up a blockbuster deal with Santonio Holmes, but now they'd like to fill the No. 2 wide receiver position. Braylon Edwards, a free agent, tweeted Wednesday that he isn't getting any love from the Jets. Things are on hold, though, because …

They're waiting on Nnamdi.

So to create additional cap room for Nnamdi, the Jets have asked LaDainian Tomlinson to take a pay cut on his $2.4 million base salary, according to the New York Daily News.

It seems like the Jets are putting all their eggs in the Nnamdi basket, and that can be a dangerous thing. What happens if he signs elsewhere? Do they cast their desperate eyes on Antonio Cromartie and try to convince him he was their guy all along?

Cromartie, a free agent, played well for the Jets last season, but you have to wonder if he feels insulted by this whole Nnamdi fascination. Even fellow corner Darrelle Revis, speaking Wednesday to reporters, said it's all about Nnamdi, talking about Cromartie as if he were an afterthought.

This is typical Jets, who like to get involved in big-game hunting. Three years ago, they were held hostage for nearly a month by Brett Favre, finally convincing him to leave the ranch in Mississippi for the bright lights of Gotham.

The Nnamdi watch hasn't reached that point, but it has put all big business on hold. If the Jets end up with Baltimore Ravens free agent Chris Carr starting opposite Revis, they'll have some explaining to do.

Follow Rich Cimini on Twitter: @RichCimini

[Plus One]

He is playing the Jets like a fiddle.

[JiFtheOracle]

so we've already lost Brad Smith and his what-3 Tds last year and now we're looking at losing another 7 TDs because of Asomugha...that's 10 TD's less-where are we going to make that up?

Well, Holmes missed 4 games last season, we drafted 2 WR's, and a RB...and I'm sure, actually positive, that the Jets will add another WR.

I really dont think that 10 TD's is a whole lot to make up.

Also, Mark Sanchez developing into a legitimate QB should help.

Do you not trust that Rex Ryan knows whats best for his Football team? I'm not saying you have to agree 100% with every decision the guy makes, but this isnt a trivial situation.

Here's another way to look at...the Jets improved from 09 to 10 on offense, by 1 TD.

[Plus One]

What do we do next year when both Revis and Asomugha hold out, each demanding to make $1 more than the other?

[Smashmouth]

No offense bro, but take a ******* pill.

Our front office has shown that it is one of the most diligent and ambitious in football, as well as one of the most methodical.

If they haven't done anything to satiate the fans yet, I don't care. I'm not going to lose my sh*t because the Pats traded for a couple scrubs who were awesome in Madden 4 years ago. The contracts being signed around the league right now are absurd. Eric Weddle just became the highest paid safety in football if I'm not mistaken. Any organization blow wads of cash right now is stupid... if the Jets are going to over-pay anyone, it should be someone that is the best at the position he plays. Aso is that.

I'd be pissed if we were breaking the bank and mortgaging the future on guys like Weddle... but Aso is worth the wait.

I also wish people would stop talking about Braylon like his production is irreplaceable. Its silly.

Sorry if I don't join the freak out... I just don't see anything wrong with what the Jets are doing right now.

Answer me a few questions .. if BE is gone and Brad Smith is gone whos stepping in at WR and Kick returner ? Are you ok with Holmes and Cotch at WR ? Who will be our big target in the red zone ? These things neeed to be addressed and I really dont need to take a chill pill Im just addressing what this team needs what exactly is wrong with that ?

[stoicsentry]

This is not typical Jets, it's typical Cimini: finding a negative spin to the Jets pursuing the #1 free agent in the offseason. If they gave up on him today, Cimini would be whining about how they should have stuck to their guns. Shut up Rich.

[bitonti]

What do we do next year when both Revis and Asomugha hold out, each demanding to make $1 more than the other?

think back on our 2011 super bowl victory?

[TNJet]

He's a jet. He can come here and win a ring. He cant do that in houston or san fran.

[ECURB]

How is this guy employed as a JETS beat writer? He is awful.

[bitonti]

it should be noted that no CB will sign before Nnamdi, he's gonna set the market. So if the Jets decide they need a plan B at CB if Nnamdi goes to Houston... well they will have that chance. and the chance to sign Braylon and whoever else.

[stoicsentry]

Answer me a few questions .. if BE is gone and Brad Smith is gone whos stepping in at WR and Kick returner ? Are you ok with Holmes and Cotch at WR ? Who will be our big target in the red zone ? These things neeed to be addressed and I really dont need to take a chill pill Im just addressing what this team needs what exactly is wrong with that ?

Kick returner... who cares? Kerley, black McKnight, white McKnight, Powell, you pick.

Big target... Dustin Keller.

[TNJet]

Brad Smith was someone defenses had to account for when he came in the game not to mention his kick return and coverage abilities. Whos retuning kicks for the Jets next year ?

I'd say Wilson, Joe Mcknight, and Kerley. They should be fine.

[Larz]

cimini is right to a point, but he missed the obvious point, that the jets should be using the money to revamp the secondary depth to fight the pats and colts offenses, and giving sanchez 2 legit WR's. I like j-co, but he doesn't scare anybody.

this is coming from woody I'm sure, he wants the big name to sell tickets. tanny needs to tell woody that if he wants a parade, he needs to spend the money wisely

hell, aso is like 31 anyway dumb dumb dumb dumb

[TNJet]

think back on our 2011 super bowl victory?

Hahaha exactly! POTW Asomugha baby.

[Irish Jet]

You know what this board needs? More Nnamdi Asomugha threads.

[JiFtheOracle]

Brad Smith was someone defenses had to account for when he came in the game not to mention his kick return and coverage abilities. Whos retuning kicks for the Jets next year ?

They drafted a KR/PR/Slot WR in the 5th round, Jeremy Kerley. He's fast, elusive, great hands and I think can contribute on ST right away...even get some serious WR looks. I think him and Powell were steals.

[TNJet]

You know what this board needs? More Nnamdi Asomugha threads.

+1 lol

[bitonti]

the jets should be using the money to revamp the secondary depth to fight the pats and colts offenses, and giving sanchez 2 legit WR's. I like j-co, but he doesn't scare anybody.

hell, aso is like 31 anyway dumb dumb dumb dumb

quantity does not trump quality. Revis and Nnamdi could be the best cornerback duo in the history of the game. I highly doubt Rex and tanny and being held hostage by Woody for the big name. 1st off Woody doesn't do that 2nd Rex probably dreams about what he could do with Revis and Nnamdi. They could blitz 8 and have everyone covered.

[Irish Jet]

They drafted a KR/PR/Slot WR in the 5th round, Jeremy Kerley. He's fast, elusive, great hands and I think can contribute on ST right away...even get some serious WR looks. I think him and Powell were steals.

This just reminded me that I genuinely have no idea who we drafted this year or what we drafted.

I should probably look that up before pissing on peoples opinions about what we need.

[JiFtheOracle]

Kick returner... who cares? Kerley, black McKnight, white McKnight, Powell, you pick.

Big target... Dustin Keller.

lol

Forgot about the McKnights. Joe was showing some promise.

[Smashmouth]

They drafted a KR/PR/Slot WR in the 5th round, Jeremy Kerley. He's fast, elusive, great hands and I think can contribute on ST right away...even get some serious WR looks. I think him and Powell were steals.

Ah yes the Highlight film >

Hope he works out JIF what does he weigh 150 soaking wet ?

Im glad a SB contender is relying on a 5th rounder to step in and ..... Ill shut up.

[joebabyny]

He's playing the Jets like a fiddle.

Nobody can officially sign until Friday. I figure he is just letting teams duel it out until the am. When you are the top pick why not wait a bit and get what you can get.

I think the longer he waits, the better for the jets actually. We are obviously the best choice for him in every way other than money, so if he weren't willing to take a little less money then we would already be out of it and cro or others would be signed.

To be honest I am a little surprised that so many free agents have agreed to terms early without waiting another day or 2.

[JiFtheOracle]

This just reminded me that I genuinely have no idea who we drafted this year or what we drafted.

I should probably look that up before pissing on peoples opinions about what we need.

Dude, the kid can play. Remember, Brad was a QB convert, who we got in the 4th. Kerley can ball. He's extremely versatile and he's not learning how to run routes, catch, receive punts/kicks.

I really dont get this wide spread panic going on right now.

http://gofrogs.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kerley_jeremy00.html

[ECURB]

it should be noted that no CB will sign before Nnamdi, he's gonna set the market. So if the Jets decide they need a plan B at CB if Nnamdi goes to Houston... well they will have that chance. and the chance to sign Braylon and whoever else.

Dude you are digging your hole even deeper with posts like this... CB's have already signed...

[TNJet]

Ah yes the Highlight film >

Hope he works out JIF what does he weigh 150 soaking wet ?

Im glad a SB contender is relying on a 5th rounder to step in and ..... Ill shut up.

Smashmouth, I've said this before and I'll say it again. If we sign Nnamdi no one will score over 14 pts on us anyway. Brad Smith is an easy replacement. Our defense will win games covering for our offenses struggles, if any.

[joebabyny]

if Aso does not sign I would much rather see the Jets get Joseph than Cromartie...... sign Edwards and possibly another weapon on offense as well maybe cut LT and sign a threat out of the back field. I really like LT but we have to be real about this.

Cro was great when stepping in for revis and even while revis was having a tough time early on. He was responsible for a handful of wins last season. I think we had the best cb duo last year once revis shook his injuries.

[JiFtheOracle]

Ah yes the Highlight film >

Hope he works out JIF what does he weigh 150 soaking wet ?

Im glad a SB contender is relying on a 5th rounder to step in and ..... Ill shut up.

Please, that wasnt my evidence to support my position. He's a good little player, perfect for the slot, and ST...who cares how much he weighs? Are you really using that? FTR, he's 5'10, 192.

He's extremely versatile. He's had 10 receiving, 2 rushing, 1 passing, TD and is a serious threat in the return game.

I'm surprised you dont know about him being the GM extraordinaire that you are. Read his bio I posted, he's a good player.

[Larz]

quantity does not trump quality. Revis and Nnamdi could be the best cornerback duo in the history of the game. I highly doubt Rex and tanny and being held hostage by Woody for the big name. 1st off Woody doesn't do that 2nd Rex probably dreams about what he could do with Revis and Nnamdi. They could blitz 8 and have everyone covered.

the jets LB's couldn't cover me, and we all know every QB in the league knows who lowery, coleman and wilson are

5 players are eligible on every play, teams would simply spread the jets out or go two TE's and be happy to move the ball that way.

and

if it's at the expense of having weapons for the passing offense, it's almost a net wash