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3 1st Quarter Surprises, & 3 Busts ~ ~ ~


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One quarter of the season is in the books. The Jets are 2-2. The Road to MetLife Stadium continues on Monday night, again away from MetLife Stadium as the Jets take on the Atlanta Falcons.

 

Let’s take a few minutes to look back on the quarter of the season gone by. Certainly the Jets have surprised many, as they were not expected to win too many games all year, much less two of the first four. The Jets have had some surprisingly good performers, as well as some performers that have underperformed. Let’s look at the biggest surprises and busts from quarter number one :

 

FIRST QUARTER SURPRISES :

 

Bilal Powell- We all saw signs at the end of 2012 to show us that Bilal Powell was a capable running back. Did anyone have him tied for third in the AFC in rushing yards after the first four games? He is currently tied with 292 yards alongside Arian Foster, only 17 yards behind conference leader Fred Jackson. Bilal is averaging 4.4 yards per carry, and had his coming out party against Buffalo with 27 rushes for 149 yards. Great signs as we move forward.

 

Damon Harrison- Who doesn’t love Damon Harrison? He is one of the hardest working guys going, as evidenced by his ascension up the depth chart. He is also one of the nicest players on the team, which is why we all root for him. But, did anyone expect him to be this good? We hoped so, but he has been just wonderful.According to Pro Football Focus, Damon is the top ranked 3-4 defensive tackle/nose tackle against the run, with a grade of 11.8.  Overall, he is sixth in the league with a grade of 10.5.

 

Kellen Winslow, Jr- This was a signing I called for during 2012, and it has paid dividends in 2013. He has become a favorite target of young Geno Smith, recording 16 receptions over the first four games for 168 yards and one touchdown. This places him in the top ten of AFC tight ends.He needs to be open more consistently, but that will come as the wide receiver production improves. All in all, he has been a nice surprise opening up the 2013 season.

 

FIRST QUARTER BUSTS

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Chris Ivory- Chris was brought here with a lot of excitement. The Jets’ fan base loves this player, and the coaching staff was quite excited for him, as were we here at the Jet Press. But, Ivory has had an injury plagued career, and that has continued with the Jets. He had hamstring problems in the preseason, and they have recurred in the regular season limiting him to under three yards per carry. Not good.

 

Clyde Gates- There isn’t much to say about this guy that hasn’t already been said, is there? He reminds older fans of “Lam” Jones. Good fast runner, but couldn’t catch a pass. Hands of stone. And, thanks to injuries, he has to be counted on to make plays. He doesn’t. He has posted a whopping six receptions, and in the kick return game, averages less than 20 yards per return. Useless.

 

Vladimir Ducasse- Most of us are not surprised that Ducasse has underperformed, but he did give us hope during week two against the New England Patriots. He manhandled Vince Wilfork, so we thought it might be a new Vlad.But then Vlad returned. He came back to the Vlad we all know, the one that can’t block, and that commits penalties as easily as you and I breathe air. Oh well, it was a hope.

 

There you have it, my surprises and busts for quarter number one. Who are some of yours ?

 

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Bilal Powell- We all saw signs at the end of 2012 to show us that Bilal Powell was a capable running back. Did anyone have him tied for third in the AFC in rushing yards after the first four games? He is currently tied with 292 yards alongside Arian Foster, only 17 yards behind conference leader Fred Jackson. Bilal is averaging 4.4 yards per carry, and had his coming out party against Buffalo with 27 rushes for 149 yards. Great signs as we move forward.

 

This is crap, and I'll tell you why.  Before thursday night's game, Powell was tied for first in the AFC for rushing yards.  Whoever wrote this article failed to consider that Fred Jackson has played five games, and is only 17 yards ahead of Powell and Foster, who have each only played in four games.  

 

This is akin to chalking up defensive stats for teams that have had a bye, against teams that haven't.  

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Damon Harrison- Who doesn’t love Damon Harrison? He is one of the hardest working guys going, as evidenced by his ascension up the depth chart. He is also one of the nicest players on the team, which is why we all root for him. But, did anyone expect him to be this good? We hoped so, but he has been just wonderful.According to Pro Football Focus, Damon is the top ranked 3-4 defensive tackle/nose tackle against the run, with a grade of 11.8.  Overall, he is sixth in the league with a grade of 10.5.

 

I read somewhere that according to PFF, David Harris has been the #1 ranked ILB for 3-4 teams.  Having two players ranked #1, at their respective positions is good enough.  The fact that they both play up the middle of our defense which was our Achilles heal the last couple seasons is incredible.  

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Oh my! Clyde Gates is a bust!  He is on a pace to have 24 for a little over 300 which is about his career totals.  He's coming off concussion and hamstring problems and has been pretty poor.  If he picks it up a little he can easily reach 500 yards which would have probably been my projection and I was the guy most in love with him on the board.  He is on pace to have a better year than Braylon has had since 2010.  More yards, more catches, more ypg and catches pg.  Poor Braylon trying to catch balls from Sanchez, Alex Smith and Russell Wilson.  If only he had a talented accomplished QB like Clyde Gates.

 

They may cut Gates and he may deserve it, but if he is doing it in practice and they stick with him he may have some value.  You weren't supposed to expect him to be Andre Reed.  These off the streets people want have less upside, add very little to specials and usually are almost crippled - Josh Cribbs, Steve Breaston.

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I read somewhere that according to PFF, David Harris has been the #1 ranked ILB for 3-4 teams.  Having two players ranked #1, at their respective positions is good enough.  The fact that they both play up the middle of our defense which was our Achilles heal the last couple seasons is incredible.  

 

now, we just need a few more of our players on  PFF...RANKED #1  :winking0001: 

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Bilal Powell- We all saw signs at the end of 2012 to show us that Bilal Powell was a capable running back. Did anyone have him tied for third in the AFC in rushing yards after the first four games? He is currently tied with 292 yards alongside Arian Foster, only 17 yards behind conference leader Fred Jackson. Bilal is averaging 4.4 yards per carry, and had his coming out party against Buffalo with 27 rushes for 149 yards. Great signs as we move forward.

 

 This crap, and I'll tell you why.  Before thursday night's game, Powell was tied for first in the AFC for rushing yards.  Whoever wrote this article failed to consider that Fred Jackson has played five games, and is only 17 yards ahead of Powell and Foster, who have each only played in four games.  

 

This is akin to chalking up defensive stats for teams that have had a bye, against teams that haven't.  

 

  This is why using fantasy stats is pointless in the NFL.   I like Powell, but he's an avg rb who will never be anything more than that. But it's funny people list fantasy stat values over winning team values.  I mean Jackson & Foster are on teams that have sucked the past few weeks.  If the Jets wind up losing tonight,  it means the top 3 leading rushers are on teams a combined 6-9.   Not terrible, but doesn't mean all that much.    I'd sure rather have a RB on a team that is 5-0 or 4-1 over 2-3 and the Texans and Bills look like teams who could wind up 3-13 at this point.   So much for top rushing yards.

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  This is why using fantasy stats is pointless in the NFL.   I like Powell, but he's an avg rb who will never be anything more than that. But it's funny people list fantasy stat values over winning team values.  I mean Jackson & Foster are on teams that have sucked the past few weeks.  If the Jets wind up losing tonight,  it means the top 3 leading rushers are on teams a combined 6-9.   Not terrible, but doesn't mean all that much.    I'd sure rather have a RB on a team that is 5-0 or 4-1 over 2-3 and the Texans and Bills look like teams who could wind up 3-13 at this point.   So much for top rushing yards.

 

I'm not sure where you're getting "fantasy stats" from the above posts.  If anything, the most skewed aspect of Powell's ranking was the exclusion of the NFC running backs.  Before yesterday, Powell was tied (with Foster) for 9th in the league...which translated to second best (with Foster) in the AFC.  That's how good the NFC is this year. 

 

You're right when you say stats without wins are silly.  However, I'm pretty sure there is a strong correlation between accumulated yards and points, and subsequently wins.   Once we cut back on the turnovers the ability to accumulate yards should be reflected in the scoreboards. 

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I'm not sure where you're getting "fantasy stats" from the above posts.  If anything, the most skewed aspect of Powell's ranking was the exclusion of the NFC running backs.  Before yesterday, Powell was tied (with Foster) for 9th in the league...which translated to second best (with Foster) in the AFC.  That's how good the NFC is this year. 

 

You're right when you say stats without wins are silly.  However, I'm pretty sure there is a strong correlation between accumulated yards and points, and subsequently wins.   Once we cut back on the turnovers the ability to accumulate yards should be reflected in the scoreboards. 

 

. . . " ...I'm pretty sure there is a strong correlation between accumulated yards and points, and subsequently wins.   Once we cut back on the turnovers the ability to accumulate yards should be reflected in the scoreboards... "

 

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