Competition, Competition, Competition…

[JetNation]

This is most certainly the year of competition for Gang Green.  Nearly every position is up for grabs and should make for a fun training camp. Mike Maccagnan from day one has always said he feels the best way for a team to improve is to bring an abundance of talent and let the best suitor emerge into the starting role.

The first and biggest competition will begin with the quarterbacks, the most important position on the team.  Josh McCown seems to be the most likely to get the nod week 1 as Bryce Petty is working his way back from shoulder surgery (non-throwing arm).  However, the infamous “Hack Hive” has been increasing each week the Jets get closer to camp.  Many are urging to see what the 2nd round 2016 pick can do.  With all the talent recently acquired, some fans expect Christian Hackenberg to win the job and lead the team moving forward.  Regardless of how his development, the Hack Hivers are impatiently waiting for his debut.

This leads to the multiple acquisitions at the receiving position.  Quinton Patton was one of the first brought in from the San Francisco 49ers where he had worked with John Morton as his wide receiver coach back in 2013-2014.  At the draft, the Jets brought in 3 new targets: ArDarius Stewart, Chad Hansen and Jordan Leggett.  All of these moves seem to be connected to developing a future crew for the young signal callers.  At this point, Eric Decker and Quincy Enunwa are safe. This is not the case for Robby Anderson, Jalin Marshall and Charone Peake.  The Jets will have some tough decisions come training camp and preseason.

The next competition contest will be the tackle positions.  In a recent press conference, Coach Bowles had mentioned that the right and left position will be up for grabs come camp.   When they signed free agent Kelvin Beachum, it seemed that he would play the left side, but now that has changed.  This puts pressure on 2nd year player Brandon Shell who hopes to play the right side and opens the door for Ben Igalana and Brent Qvale to compete for the starting job on the left side.

The last area is one of the most important on defense, cornerback.  Since the departure of Darelle Revis, the Jets have had a big pair of shoes to fill.  They brought in Marcus Claiborne who will be the new #1 on the depth chart.  After that, Marcus Williams will probably line up outside on the right as #2.  Buster Skrine will be the starting nickel (#3), but after that it is undetermined.  Justin Burress, Daryl Roberts, Jeremy Clark and Derrick Jones will battle for the final #4 spot.  More importantly, the top competitor will most likely get a chance to crack one of the top 3 starting positions in 2018.  Williams is on a 1-year tender, Claiborne is on a 1-year show me deal, and Skrine is in the last year of his current contract.

It may seem scary to think there are so many spots to be determined.  However, in retrospect this could factor out well for the team.  Having the best players win their jobs could bode well for the imminent rebuilding of the Jets.

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[JustInFudge]

Bowles has been preaching competition since he walked in the door and proceeded to hand every job to every sh*t head vet on the team. 

I'll believe that he's actually running an open competition when I see someone who to deserves take snaps from someone who is playing like sh*t but has a fancy name or contract or a high draft pick.

[Beerfish]

Just now, JiF said:

Bowles has been preaching competition since he walked in the door and proceeded to hand every job to every sh*t head vet on the team. 

I'll believe that he's actually running an open competition when I see someone who deserves take snaps from someone how doesnt.

Agreed 100%  He's full of sh*t.  Or at last he was last year.

[JustInFudge]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Agreed 100%  He's full of sh*t.  Or at last he was last year.

And the year before....rolling out Cro game after game while Marcus Williams was shining.  My gawd.

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

And the year before....rolling out Cro game after game while Marcus Williams was shining.  My gawd.

the thing is this year most of those vets are gone.  at this point what vets can he really play favorites with?  harris - he's been starting for a decade?  mccown - there will be immense pressure from woody to play the young qbs if they're even close to mccown since woody said bowles is being graded on player development.   

[JustInFudge]

1 minute ago, Augustiniak said:

the thing is this year most of those vets are gone.  at this point what vets can he really play favorites with?  harris - he's been starting for a decade?  mccown - there will be immense pressure from woody to play the young qbs if they're even close to mccown since woody said bowles is being graded on player development.   

Harris and McCown are great examples.  Are they really competing for a job?  **** no.  They're slotted week 1 starters 100% guaranteed. 

Rontez Miles has been out playing Pyror for years...does he get a shot to play in front of Maye or Adams?  **** no.

What about Skrine?  Beachum?  Mo?  Sheldon?  Forte?  Decker?  Claiborne?  **** no.

Competition is fun talk but it isnt real.  Especially when dealing with a complete players coach moron like Bowles. 

[Jetsfan2482]

Harris and McCown are great examples.  Are they really competing for a job?  **** no.  They're slotted week 1 starters 100% guaranteed. 
Rontez Miles has been out playing Pyror for years...does he get a shot to play in front of Maye or Adams?  **** no.
What about Skrine?  Beachum?  Mo?  Sheldon?  Forte?  Decker?  Claiborne?  **** no.
Competition is fun talk but it isnt real.  Especially when dealing with a complete players coach moron like Bowles. 

which cornerback do you think will emerge this season?



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[rangerous]

16 hours ago, JetNation said:

This is most certainly the year of competition for Gang Green.  Nearly every position is up for grabs and should make for a fun training camp. Mike Maccagnan from day one has always said he feels the best way for a team to improve is to bring an abundance of talent and let the best suitor emerge into the starting role.

The first and biggest competition will begin with the quarterbacks, the most important position on the team.  Josh McCown seems to be the most likely to get the nod week 1 as Bryce Petty is working his way back from shoulder surgery (non-throwing arm).  However, the infamous “Hack Hive” has been increasing each week the Jets get closer to camp.  Many are urging to see what the 2nd round 2016 pick can do.  With all the talent recently acquired, some fans expect Christian Hackenberg to win the job and lead the team moving forward.  Regardless of how his development, the Hack Hivers are impatiently waiting for his debut.

This leads to the multiple acquisitions at the receiving position.  Quinton Patton was one of the first brought in from the San Francisco 49ers where he had worked with John Morton as his wide receiver coach back in 2013-2014.  At the draft, the Jets brought in 3 new targets: ArDarius Stewart, Chad Hansen and Jordan Leggett.  All of these moves seem to be connected to developing a future crew for the young signal callers.  At this point, Eric Decker and Quincy Enunwa are safe. This is not the case for Robby Anderson, Jalin Marshall and Charone Peake.  The Jets will have some tough decisions come training camp and preseason.

The next competition contest will be the tackle positions.  In a recent press conference, Coach Bowles had mentioned that the right and left position will be up for grabs come camp.   When they signed free agent Kelvin Beachum, it seemed that he would play the left side, but now that has changed.  This puts pressure on 2nd year player Brandon Shell who hopes to play the right side and opens the door for Ben Igalana and Brent Qvale to compete for the starting job on the left side.

The last area is one of the most important on defense, cornerback.  Since the departure of Darelle Revis, the Jets have had a big pair of shoes to fill.  They brought in Marcus Claiborne who will be the new #1 on the depth chart.  After that, Marcus Williams will probably line up outside on the right as #2.  Buster Skrine will be the starting nickel (#3), but after that it is undetermined.  Justin Burress, Daryl Roberts, Jeremy Clark and Derrick Jones will battle for the final #4 spot.  More importantly, the top competitor will most likely get a chance to crack one of the top 3 starting positions in 2018.  Williams is on a 1-year tender, Claiborne is on a 1-year show me deal, and Skrine is in the last year of his current contract.

It may seem scary to think there are so many spots to be determined.  However, in retrospect this could factor out well for the team.  Having the best players win their jobs could bode well for the imminent rebuilding of the Jets.

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i for one will be pretty disappointed if hack doesn't start game 1.  if hack shows the poise and leadership the qb position needs then he should be the guy. starting mccown will not do the jets much good.  he's a one season rental and they won't truly find out if hack is the guy or they will need to grab another qb.  i'm not buying the mechanics excuse that much either.  he managed to get this far with those very same mechanics and has been playing the position since pee wee.  he's ready.  they should let him play.

[rangerous]

15 hours ago, JiF said:

Harris and McCown are great examples.  Are they really competing for a job?  **** no.  They're slotted week 1 starters 100% guaranteed. 

Rontez Miles has been out playing Pyror for years...does he get a shot to play in front of Maye or Adams?  **** no.

What about Skrine?  Beachum?  Mo?  Sheldon?  Forte?  Decker?  Claiborne?  **** no.

Competition is fun talk but it isnt real.  Especially when dealing with a complete players coach moron like Bowles. 

i agree on most of your points. you really can't fault bowles for starting harris, shelly, decker, and claiborne. imo you need some key vets in there to calm down the young guys and it's really hard to argue against what those bring (or have brought). skrine, beachum, and forte could be beaten out.  wilk? he has 17 million reasons to ensure he starts.

but you know teams these days need to be flexible and have good players to come in and change the pace or play to a particular scheme. so it's really not the guys who start but the guys who finish.

[JustInFudge]

1 hour ago, rangerous said:

i agree on most of your points. you really can't fault bowles for starting harris, shelly, decker, and claiborne. imo you need some key vets in there to calm down the young guys and it's really hard to argue against what those bring (or have brought). skrine, beachum, and forte could be beaten out.  wilk? he has 17 million reasons to ensure he starts.

but you know teams these days need to be flexible and have good players to come in and change the pace or play to a particular scheme. so it's really not the guys who start but the guys who finish.

Agreed but that's been a problem too.  Week 17 when the season was out of hand, he was still trotting out Fitz, Revis, Harris, etc. etc. etc. instead of literally treating that game like preseason game 3 and having everyone audition for a roster spot this season. 

[section314]

Lots of new position coaches this year, who will hopefully have more input into who plays.