kelly Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Revis and Sanchez for a 1 & 3 if we can get ANY team to take mark ( HIS contract )...we should consider the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Idzik would have a huge target on his head with the #1 overall. He would literally have to select the single best player in this draft or he would be crucified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 who would the Jets take at 1? no one wants to pick at 1. It's a nightmare up there. This^^^ No offense to the young men busting thier butts in Indy, but this is not the draft to have the Number 1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 Idzik would have a huge target on his head with the #1 overall. He would literally have to select the single best player in this draft or he would be crucified. trade the pick for more picks/players & move down in the 1st round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 trade the pick for more picks/players & move down in the 1st round Oh fer sure. But it's easier said than done. I think teams would actually be more willing to move up to the #9-spot (from say the teens or twenties) than any team would for the #1. Even though the signing is more cap friendly thanks to the new CPA, there just isn't any player to warrant trading picks to draft #1 overall. The only possible scenario where I could have seen this happen is if Luke Joekel pulled away from Eric Fisher dramatically. He didn't. At this point I'd actually prefer Fisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 The Kansas City Chiefs’ choices with the No. 1 pick continue to be murky and it is not getting any clearer as the NFL combine comes to a close. Thus, I think the team may have to start getting creative about the pick and it could mean taking a run at prized cornerback Darrelle Revis. The Chiefs’ situation got more complicated with the news that Utah defensive lineman Star Lotulelei has a heart condition and he is undergoing tests. He couldn’t work out at the combine because of the matter. Unless Lotulelei gets firm medical conformation that he is at no risk because of the heart issue, there is little chance he will be taken at the top of the draft. Would the Chiefs trade the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft to acquire star Jets CB Darrelle Revis? Lotulelei is Scouts Inc.’s top-rated prospect and is one of the few top prospects who makes some positional sense for the Chiefs.West Virginia quarterback Geno Smith ran well at the combine and received mixed reviews for his performances in the passing drills. He still may be a long shot at No. 1. Thus, signs point to Kansas City taking Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel at No.1. But that isn’t clear cut, either. The Chiefs like free-agent left tackle Branden Albert and remain interested in re-signing him. I wouldn’t get too excited about the possibility of drafting Joeckel and moving Albert to guard. Albert wants to stay at left tackle and he knows someone will pay him the premium to play it. Simply letting Albert walk and drafting Joeckel would not be taking advantage of having the top pick and it wouldn’t necessarily make the Chiefs better.They must get better by using the pick wisely. I have an idea how that could happen: go get Revis. The Jets are reportedly willing to trade the All-Pro cornerback.I could see a scenario where the Chiefs could use the No. 1 pick as bait and get Revis, who played for new Kansas City defensive coordinator Bob Sutton in New York, and the No. 9 pick in return. There may have to be some additions on either side, but I’m not sure the Jets could get a better offer. The Chiefs could then pair Revis with Brandon Flowers and have one of the best cornerback situations in the NFL. Yes, Revis is coming off a torn ACL. But all reports are that he is making great progress and he is in the prime of his career. And, yes, Revis would likely require a new deal, but I think he Chiefs could find a way to keep receiver Dwayne Bowe and add Revis. That would likely mean letting Albert walk in free agency. But with the No. 9 pick, the Chiefs could likely get Central Michigan left tackle Eric Fisher and very likely get Oklahoma’s Lane Johnson. Both are highly skilled left tackles. In addition, reports are heavy that the Chiefs are going after San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith.So, this is what the team’s offseason scorecard could look like:In: Bowe, Alex Smith, Revis and a top rookie left tackle rookie. Out: Albert and the No. 1 pick. Looks OK to me and if somehow Albert could be kept, the Chiefs could use the No. 9 pick on Geno Smith or a top prospect at another position. I know there are lots of hoops to go through for this scenario to unfold and I am not naïve enough to think it can occur easily. But it’s plausible through some brainstorming. That’s exactly the point of the Chiefs’ situation. They have to get creative because there are too many questions right now about them having the No. 1 pick. They might have to get creative to make it a positive situation. > http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/55244/revis-could-solve-chiefs-dilemma Sure. Super Bowl here they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 10 Reasons to want Darrelle Revis > http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap1000000146321/10-reasons-to-want-darrelle-revis#photo=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Revis says it 'doesn't matter' where he plays As a multi-part interview, Darrelle Revis-Michael Robinson won't be remembered with Frost-Nixon in terms of impact on our culture, but Part II of the Revis-Robinson sitdown contains a few noteworthy sound bites from the Jets' star cornerback. Once again, Revis openly wonders if he'll be back with the Jets. More importantly, he doesn't seem to care if he's traded."Revis Island will be back on the field soon," he told the "Real Rob Report," an online sports show. "I don't know, we'll see where the future leads to -- if I'll be back with the Jets or not. It really doesn't matter. I just want to play football." This doesn't sound like a man who wants to sign a "Jet for life" contract. Or maybe Revis is just giving the Jets a taste of their own medicine, remaining non-committal. Posturing, anyone? A few other highlights from the interview, which can be seen here: • Revis still believes in QB Mark Sanchez, but he said the No. 1 offseason priority should be acquiring offensive weapons: "We want guys for Mark Sanchez to throw to, some deep threats. ... Yes, Mark can get it done, but we need to put the right weapons around him for him to be successful. That's always been a thing with Mark. That should be our focus with Mark Sanchez, put the right players around him." • Revis on the outlook for the 2013 season: "(John Idzik) is trying to clean house to get some great players in here. ... It's a rebuilding mode for us, to get the right pieces to the puzzle." • Revis on whether he still believes he's the best cornerback in football: "A healthy Darrelle Revis, I still believe I'm at the top of the food chain." • Revis on his new rivalry with Seahawks CB Richard Sherman: "Is he on his way? Yes, definitely. He's on his way and much success to him. I like his game. He's a tall, athletic corner. He can press you. He can run. He can do a lot of things. ... It's great. It's only going to make him compete more and it's going to make me compete more. It's always good." > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21139/revis-says-it-doesnt-matter-where-he-plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Does trading Revis to 49ers make sense ? > http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/55869/does-trading-darrelle-revis-to-49ers-make-sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Polian : Key to Revis situation is his health Former longtime GM Bill Polian believes the key to a potential Darrelle Revis trade is his health. He applies the same logic to contract negotiations. "Keep in mind that all general managers deal with facts and not sound bites or noise," Polian, an ESPN analyst, said Tuesday on a media conference call. "The fact is, he's an injured player who has not proven yet that he is what he was before he got hurt. "How can you negotiate when you don't know what the player is likely to be ? You can surmise, but you don't know until he gets on the field," Polian continued. "To me, that's a very important issue. I presume that if they have an intention to keep him, at some point they'll enter into the negotiations. But the timing of that depends entirely on what they find out vis-a-vis the medical." On Monday, GM John Idzik said Revis is ahead of schedule in his recovery from major knee surgery. That also could be a message to a team that might be interested in trading for Revis, who stirred the pot by indicating in an interview he'd be intrigued by the prospect of playing for the 49ers. The Jets have yet to open negotiations with Revis, who has one year left on his current deal. There's still time to sit down and hammer out an extension before the draft, but as I predicted last week, there's no chance of that happening. They will either trade him before the draft or let it play out to the summer. "I can't predict what's going to happen," Polian said, "but I can tell you what's going to drive the decision -- and that's the medical." > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21152/polian-key-to-revis-situation-in-his-health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 It was reported by Pro Football Talk on Tuesday that the New York Jets could trade Darrelle Revis a week or so before the 2013 NFL Draft. Now, it seems as though the process will or could be moved along much more quickly. According to the NY Daily News, the Jets are done with Revis Island. “He’s gone,” a source familiar with the situation said Tuesday. “This is happening. They’re moving him. They can’t keep him. They’re rebuilding. They’re starting fresh.”The Daily News also reports that two or three “legitimate buyers” are prepared to offer the Jets a deal for their star cornerback, and are also prepared to offer him a new contract. The two teams mentioned of the potential three are the Atlanta Falcons and San Francisco 49ers, the two teams who battled for the right to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl last season. The Niners have 12 tradable draft picks this year, and 15 in all with compensatory picks (likely) coming. The Falcons are rumored suitors, don’t have nearly as many picks, but they just released Dunta Robinson and with Brent Grimes hitting free agency, they could have a huge void at the cornerback position. The third team is unknown per the Daily News report, but I have a feeling it’s an AFC contender.It seems like the only team who has universally expressed interest in acquiring Revis is San Francisco, while any other team is merely rumored at this point. Still, the one big hangup for a Revis trade is not only giving up a bounty of picks, but giving Revis a new contract.According to the report, that’s not going to be a problem. “Sources told The News that a few shoppers for the cornerback have already made it clear that they are willing to dole out draft choices and set the parameters for a long-term deal with the Revis camp to get arguably the best defensive player in the NFL.”This year’s class of players at the cornerback position in both free agency and the 2013 NFL Draft is very, very strong, so if the Jets want to get the most they can get for Revis, they are going to probably have to get him shipped out of there sometime in the next couple of weeks. One thing is nearly for certain: Darrelle Revis has played his last game with the New York Jets, and they are about to go into full rebuilding mode. > http://nflmocks.com/2013/03/06/nfl-trade-rumors-49ers-falcons-interested-in-jets-cb-darrelle-revis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Report : 49ers Interested in Darrelle Revis “Sooner Rather Than Later” What was speculated a month ago is being reported now. The New York Daily News reports that the 49ers are among “two or three legitimate buyers” interested in trading for cornerback Darrelle Revis of the Jets.In fact, a source is quoted as saying they want to trade for Revis “sooner rather than later.” The Falcons are also indicated as an interested team, but the Atlanta Journal Constitution says not to read much into that, as the Jets are only trying to leverage the 49ers by leaking the news of multiple teams being interested. One thing we know for certain is that the Jets are shopping Revis around.“He’s gone,” a source told the New York Daily. “This is happening. They’re moving him. They can’t keep him. They’re rebuilding. They’re starting fresh.” San Francisco has 15 picks in his upcoming draft thanks to the Alex Smith trade, and could use them to their advantage in pulling off a trade. Revis is regarded by many as the top cornerback in the league, but missed all but two games of the 2012 season with a torn ACL and subsequent knee surgery.The Jets will likely ask for at least a first round pick in exchange for Revis. At the NFL the combine last month, the 49ers were checking in with agents on the cornerback market, thus confirming that they are indeed looking to upgrade their secondary. If you put two and two together, this likely means that the 49ers could and should make a run for Revis. > http://goldengatesports.com/2013/03/06/report-49ers-interested-in-darrelle-revis-sooner-rather-than-later/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 'Revis Island' should relocate to Tampa Tampa Bay appears to have the necessary resources to pull off a deal for the Jets' Darrelle Revis.While seemingly every NFL team is denying interest in New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis, there is one team that should be going after him. I say put Revis Island on Davis Islands. That’s the tandem of islands in the shadows of downtown Tampa, Fla., and just down the road from Raymond James Stadium. It’s on those islands that New York Yankees legend Derek Jeter built a mansion, and he could use some company. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers also could use a shutdown corner. Revis and the Bucs would be a perfect match on every level. Other teams are citing the cost of a trade and the salary cap as reasons why they don’t want the guy who might be the best cornerback of his generation. But none of those excuses works for the Bucs. In fact, the things that work against those other teams work for the Bucs. Let’s start with the price of getting Revis and keeping him for the long term. It will probably take a couple of draft picks to pry Revis from the Jets. The Bucs have some flexibility there because they have an extra fourth-round pick this year. Even if the Bucs had to give up this year’s first-round pick (No. 13 overall) as part of the package, so what ? They’re not going to find a better cornerback than Revis in the middle of the first round. Then, there’s also the realistic fear that trading for Revis would be only a one-year solution because he’s heading into the final season of his contract. But the Bucs are in a unique spot there. They are more than $32 million under this year’s salary cap and have plenty of cap room in upcoming years. They could trade for Revis, immediately sign him to a huge extension and still have plenty of cap room to work with now and in the future. But the Bucs have more than just the means to get Revis. They have a glaring need. Did you happen to catch Tampa Bay’s secondary last season? The Bucs were so bad they allowed more passing yards than the New Orleans Saints, which is saying a lot. The Bucs were so bad that they had the league’s top-ranked run defense but still managed to finish No. 31 in total defense. Young Tampa Bay safety Mark Barron could benefit in a big way if the Bucs managed to acquire star CB Darrelle Revis. In the process, they traded away their top cornerback, Aqib Talib, mainly because he was a perpetual headache. Eric Wright,the free agent they signed to a big contract last year, didn’t really work out. He ended up getting suspended for violating the league’s policy on performance-enhancing substances. That suspension voided his guaranteed base salary for this year, and the Bucs may end up releasing Wright. This is a team that can’t afford to go into next season counting on Leonard Johnson and E.J. Biggers as anything more than role players. This is a team that needs a big-time cornerback, and those don’t come any bigger than Revis. He instantly would make the Bucs better, and that would be a huge plus for a franchise that hasn’t been to the playoffs since the 2007 season. Put Revis with second-year safety Mark Barron and add another cornerback and a safety behind a front seven that has some talent, and Tampa Bay’s defense suddenly could become very good. There were hints last season that the offense could be pretty good. Get a little more consistency out of quarterback Josh Freeman, let Revis bolster the defense, and Tampa Bay could be in the playoff hunt. That brings us to another point. The Bucs need to win and they also need to excite a fan base that hasn’t had a lot to be excited about in recent years. Winning can cure a lot of that, but so can an injection of charisma. Revis has charisma. He trademarked the "Revis Island" name and he has star power. That’s something the Bucs desperately need as they try to get fans into a stadium that rarely has sold out in recent years. The arrival of running back Doug Martin and wide receiver Vincent Jackson gave the Bucs some star power last year. But, still, Tampa might be the rarest of NFL markets. Hockey’s Steven Stamkos and baseball’s Evan Longoria might be more popular in Tampa than any of the Bucs. Jeter might even be Tampa’s most famous resident from the sports world, and he plays his home games more than 1,000 miles away, not far from where Revis has spent his NFL career. But maybe it’s time for the Bucs to step up and take Revis out of New York. If they do, they can give themselves a true superstar, fill their stadium and maybe turn into a playoff team. > http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/45681/revis-island-should-relocate-to-tampa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 in case we do trade revis... > http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000147048/article/free-agency-primer-ranking-the-cornerbacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 New defensive coordinator avoids Revis issue Imagine being Dennis Thurman. You spend two decades coaching, waiting for a shot to become a coordinator. The shot comes this offseason, and now there's a chance your best player -- Darrelle Revis -- gets traded away. If Thurman is on the verge of panic, he did a good job of masking his emotions Monday in a media conference call."We coach the guys we have," said the Jets' former secondary coach, who was promoted to defensive coordinator after the season. "I was always taught about not getting overly emotional about losing a guy. In terms of Darrelle getting hurt last year, we had to move on and we had to continue to play. They're not going to cancel the games. Our mindset is, we coach who's here." Thurman was Revis' position coach from 2009 to 2012, and they're extremely close. But Thurman said he's had no recent communication with Revis. He said they haven't talked since Revis was rehabbing his surgically repaired knee at the Jets' facility, which probably was around January."I really don't have a comment (on the trade speculation)," Thurman said. "I think our GM, our coach and people above me will make that decision." On other topics, Thurman said he and Rex Ryan haven't decided who will be the primary play caller. Thurman will remain on the sideline during games; his predecessor, Mike Pettine, worked from the press box. Thurman said it's too early to predict if the defense will use more 4-3 fronts than in the past. He said personnel will dictate the scheme. After cutting Calvin Pace and Bart Scott, the Jets have only one linebacker under contract with starting experience, David Harris. > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21312/new-defensive-coordinator-avoids-revis-issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 ~ ~ 1. I think the trouble with trading for Darrelle Revis at any time before October is mind-bogglingly simple: How can a team trade for Revis when it doesn't know how healthy he is coming back from ACL surgery, and when it doesn't know what it's going to take to get him signed long-term? If the Jets trade him during the early days of the new league year, which begins Tuesday, they'll be dealing him having no idea what his true value is. And his true value won't be known, really, until teams see him play in August and September. 2. I think, still, the best thing for the Jets to do with Revis is to sign him long-term. And I understand the reasoning of smart people like Parcells and Polian, who say they wouldn't pay a corner so much money. But if I'm sure by Labor Day that Revis is still Revis, I do everything in my power to sign him. 3. I think, however, that I will never own the Jets, and the man who does, Woody Johnson, has it in his head that he'll never reach a fair deal with Revis, and so wants him gone. > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130311/peter-king-monday-morning-quarterback-free-agency-2013/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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