alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I would love to hear from Andrej and Lizard though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I think Hallia's claim and Crusher's conversion vets Leelou. Therefore I believe Leelou and the people she has cleared. I'll be lynching from my POE outside of Leelou's list I think Leelou's conversion is too big of an IF i'm not sure I'm buying Halia's claim.. with no nk's, why have a backup cop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I would love to hear from Andrej and Lizard though I for one cant wait for Lizzies Reveal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I think Hallia's claim and Crusher's conversion vets Leelou. Therefore I believe Leelou and the people she has cleared. I'll be lynching from my POE outside of Leelou's list I think Leelou's conversion is too big of an IF and it's a conversion game, there's no way leelou is vetted.... none + if you believe hallia's claim you'd have to assume that Leelou can be converted, but wasn't, even though outed on day 1... something stinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 i'm not sure I'm buying Halia's claim.. with no nk's, why have a backup cop? For conversions? If we have town/mafia vying for majority and recruiting survivors, probably a back up recruiter on either side. This is only if you're going with the theory that only survivors are getting converted. Outside of that anyone could be taken in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I don't fully trust Hallia's claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 and it's a conversion game, there's no way leelou is vetted.... none + if you believe hallia's claim you'd have to assume that Leelou can be converted, but wasn't, even though outed on day 1... something stinks If you were to lynch into Leelou's town core, who would you pick and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I don't fully trust Hallia's claim. Why claim then? People already don't trust you, why link yourself to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 For conversions? If we have town/mafia vying for majority and recruiting survivors, probably a back up recruiter on either side. This is only if you're going with the theory that only survivors are getting converted. Outside of that anyone could be taken in. so you think leelou can be converted, but just wasn't, even though outed on day #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 i'm not sure I'm buying Halia's claim.. with no nk's, why have a backup cop? you know what ..with no NK's there almost has to be a recruiter. I was not thinking in that direction thanks for jarring my memory.... It really sucks at this point Leelou was not vetted with a Fat Boy Lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Why claim then? People already don't trust you, why link yourself to you? I'm not Hallia, so I don't know why she would. I don't trust her claim though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Why claim then? People already don't trust you, why link yourself to you? why would hallia claim? I dunno, there's several people in this thread who have blatantly stated they refuse to kill a PR, scum claiming a seemingly useful role like that makes it less likely we lynch her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 We've gotten Bing's attention again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 so you think leelou can be converted, but just wasn't, even though outed on day #1? No I think I'm right and that Leelou can't be converted and she's telling the truth, but I'm also willing to listen to what you have to say I also believe that it would be perfect right now for the mafia to get Leelou lynched on the basis that Hallia is the "back up cop" and can replace her if we make a mistake when in reality they want to get rid of our town recruiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 why would hallia claim? I dunno, there's several people in this thread who have blatantly stated they refuse to kill a PR, scum claiming a seemingly useful role like that makes it less likely we lynch her? she certainly was not pushed for the claim she basically offered it up because I was pushing Leelou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 We've gotten Bing's attention again. Ew make it go away, no one likes bing anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 another thought.. there's been 0 nk's, we are trusting that leelou wasn't converted... even thought she's been outed since day 1.. You'd have to imagine scum would've tried by now? Are we working under the assumption she couldn't be converted, then if so, why is there a back up cop? That being said, do we think the mechanic at work here is leelou gets converted, and Hallia gets elevated automatically? if so, that would instantly give up leelou something doesn't make sense here I'm assuming that the mafia can either kill or recruit on any given night, but not both. Just like how Lee can either view or recruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm assuming that the mafia can either kill or recruit on any given night, but not both. Just like how Lee can either view or recruit. That's what I said, lol. And it would make sense. I also see how we can both have a back up recruiter and a back up cop. I'm suspicious of that back up cop right now though due to tinfoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 That's what I said, lol. And it would make sense. I also see how we can both have a back up recruiter and a back up cop. I'm suspicious of that back up cop right now though due to tinfoil. I hadn't read what you said when I was responding to what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm just agreeing Lily haha I think I said that a while back though; people tend to skim my posts anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm just agreeing Lily haha I think I said that a while back though; people tend to skim my posts anyways I don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I don't You don't agree or you don't skim my posts haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm just agreeing Lily haha I think I said that a while back though; people tend to skim my posts anyways Maybe you did. I have a pretty bad memory, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I don't skim your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Awe I kinda love you Nyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Also Unvote Vote JiF I'm going out now and wont be back until I'm done with being social and probably very drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 No I think I'm right and that Leelou can't be converted and she's telling the truth, but I'm also willing to listen to what you have to say I also believe that it would be perfect right now for the mafia to get Leelou lynched on the basis that Hallia is the "back up cop" and can replace her if we make a mistake when in reality they want to get rid of our town recruiter. THat is what I'm saying, if you believe that, how could you also believe hallia's claim.. This is like with 80.. IN all likelyhood we can't have cop #1 unable to be converted + no NK's AND have a backup cop.. there's no need for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Lee could view Halli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm assuming that the mafia can either kill or recruit on any given night, but not both. Just like how Lee can either view or recruit. there's been no evidence of that though.. 5 night phases, no kills seems weird + there seems to be no doc, yet no dead leelou.... wouldn't scum have taken her out by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alannalynn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 THat is what I'm saying, if you believe that, how could you also believe hallia's claim.. This is like with 80.. IN all likelyhood we can't have cop #1 unable to be converted + no NK's AND have a backup cop.. there's no need for it But our cop could still be lynched just like our mafia recruiter right? I do see what you're saying now though, it's OP Likelihood it's a gambit as I mentioned above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 there's been no evidence of that though.. 5 night phases, no kills seems weird + there seems to be no doc, yet no dead leelou.... wouldn't scum have taken her out by now? No, there's been no evidence of that, but it makes sense. If I were the mafia member, I'd recruit rather than kill. It gets you to endgame faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallia Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm fine with being viewed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 No, there's been no evidence of that, but it makes sense. If I were the mafia member, I'd recruit rather than kill. It gets you to endgame faster. and leave leelou alive w/the power to convert back or steal recruits (assuming only survivors can be recruited?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 But our cop could still be lynched just like our mafia recruiter right? I do see what you're saying now though, it's OP Likelihood it's a gambit as I mentioned above? I think the gambit theory is good cause that crossed my mind, "maybe we lynch leelou, if she flips clean, we know her list is good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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