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If the Jets pass on Brett Favre, they're still incomplete


Unless the Jets change course and land Brett Favre ...


... Kellen Clemens (l.) and Chad Pennington are slated to battle for the Jets' QB job.

Brett Favre's last pass was against the Giants.

His next pass should be for the Jets.

Favre wants to play, but the Packers are behaving like they would rather bring back Bart Starr. The Jets are still searching for an identity, a quarterback and a Super Bowl, all these years after Broadway Joe.

Connect the dots and there's a match.

The Jets should get on the phone to Packers GM Ted Thompson and make an offer for Favre, especially now that there are reports that the Packers have asked multiple teams what they would give up for the future Hall of Famer. The sight of him firing passes for the Jets would create an electric environment. "He would give the Jets legitimate hope," one GM said Tuesday morning. "It makes sense for them."

Mike Tannenbaum and Eric Mangini spent a lot of Woody Johnson's money in the offseason loading up on linemen and linebackers trying to make sure the Jets don't go 4-12 again. They've created a win-now team, but they but don't have a win-now quarterback, a slight oversight.

The Jets will try to get it done with Chad Pennington, an injury-prone veteran with a weak arm, or Kellen Clemens, a strong-armed kid who finished last season as the starter but played so poorly that Mangini has thrown him into an open competition this summer rather than bestow him with the title of incumbent. That says a lot.

This is not fantasy football, where you can just deal for Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and make everything all right. But the Jets are presented with a unique and unexpected opportunity to trade for the NFL's all-time leader in touchdowns, yards, attempts and completions. Interceptions, too. Favre is available and he is coming off one of his best seasons with 4,155 yards, 28 TDs and 15 INTs. Pennington and Clemens combined for 3,294 yards, 15 TDs and 19 INTs.

At this point in his life and career, the 38-year-old Favre and the grand stage of New York are a fit. The Jets have done a nice job of improving their talent in the offseason and Favre would have a legitimate chance to win. Sending him to the Jets would allow the Packers to get him out of the NFC.

Even if Favre looked very old and very cold in the arctic conditions of the NFC Championship Game at Lambeau and threw away his Super Bowl invitation with a terrible overtime interception against the Giants last season, he still represents a drastic upgrade over Pennington and Clemens.

But nothing has changed in the Jets' approach since we reported on July 13 that they had no interest in Favre. According to a source familiar with their thinking, the Jets are turned off by his age (39 on Oct.10), salary ($12million), the required draft-choice compensation (probably a second-round pick) and his commitment. The source confirmed yesterday that the Jets are still not thinking about Favre.

The Jets will hit the field for their first practice tomorrow. It would be quite an event if Favre turned in his Packers green and gold for the Jets' green and white.

"It would show the Jets are trying to swing for the fences," the GM said. "Favre had an excellent season last year. He's bionic."

Favre has always been one of the most down-to-earth players in the NFL, but has become a bit of a diva the last few years with all the drama surrounding whether he was going to retire. "He's a good guy," the GM said. "I don't see him being a distraction."

He has taken the drama to a new level this year, first announcing his retirement in early March, deciding to come back in late March but changing his mind before it could be announced, and now getting into an embarrassing public fight with the Packers, who want to move on with Aaron Rodgers.

Even so, he gives the Jets a better chance to win than Pennington or Clemens. The Jets can make back half of Favre's salary by releasing Pennington, who is making $6million. Clemens, who didn't show last year that he is ready to win, can sit and learn behind Favre, even if it's for only one season. But if Favre plays this year, it figures he will stick around for two.

If nothing else, Favre would make the Jets important again and give them momentum going into their new stadium in 2010. The Jets have not yet announced their plan for personal seat licenses, but the addition of Favre would soften the sticker shock - especially if he gets them to the playoffs.

It would take an adjustment by Mangini, who has constructed a team without high-profile stars. Favre obviously would be bigger than the team and the coach. But if he can throw for 25-30 TDs and beat the Patriots once, then why wouldn't the Jets sign up for that?

The Jets have never been more second-class citizens in this town than they are now following the Giants' championship and their own dismal season. Maybe 17 years after missing Favre by one spot in the draft, they can squeeze two great years out of him now.

Joe Montana went from the 49ers to the Chiefs in 1993 after missing nearly two full years with an elbow injury. In his first season in Kansas City, he took the Chiefs to the AFC title game. In his second year, he got them into the playoffs.

That's a nice return. This is the time for the Jets to make a similar investment.


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Posted: 3:11 am

July 23, 2008

The JetsNew York Jets yesterday signed free-agent defensive back Ahmad Carroll and waived defensive back Nate Lyles.

Carroll, 5-10, 190 pounds, spent the 2008 season with the Arena Football League's Orlando Predators, starting 15 of 16 games with 68 total tackles (60 solo), three fumble recoveries and an interception.

He originally was selected by the Packers in the first round of the 2004 NFL Draft. In 2006, Carroll was waived by the Packers and signed as a free agent with Jacksonville, where he played in one game before being waived.

Lyles signed as an undrafted rookie free agent on May 2, was a three-year starter at cornerback for Virginia.

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July 22, 2008

Baker update

I hope this doesn't become a daily occurrence [just as I'm sure the Jets don't either]. Eric Mangini appeared on the WFAN morning show today with Boomer Esiason and Craig Carton, and he indicated he didn't think Baker would be on the PUP list very long.

'I don't anticipate it being long term,' Mangini said. Baker apparently didn't pass a physical and/or a conditioning test, which is why he was put on PUP, but Mangini said that 'he's working on the things he needs to work on to get on the field.'

How should we read this? Well, it still seems to me like a pre-emptive strike by the Jets, although reporters have been told that Baker will be available to the media after Thursday's first practice of camp, whether or not he's been un-PUPped. Although the Jets' trade of disgruntled LG Pete Kendall last summer didn't work out, they certainly seem more set at TE this year than they did at LG last year, so maybe Baker won't be the last unhappy TE to be shipped out of the area.

In non-Baker news, the Jets signed another 'street free agent,' getting DB Ahmad Carroll off the scrap heap. Carroll played for the Orlando Predators of the Arena league this year, but was a first-round draft pick of the Packers in 2004. Green Bay cut him in 2006 and he was picked up by Jacksonville, which released him in May 2007, after he was arrested on drug and weapons possession charges. He was out of football last season.

To make room, they waived DB Nate Lyles, a rookie free agent from Virginia. Too bad, because Lyles certainly was someone to root for. While at Virginia, he suffered a neck injury during a game in 2005 and was at first thought to be paralyzed. He recovered and had an operation to fuse the vertebra in his neck and started the last two seasons.

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Jets sign mercurial Ahmad Carroll

By Dan Leberfeld

Posted Jul 22, 2008

The Jets signed free agent cornerback Ahmad Carroll on Tuesday. He is a former first round pick of the Green Bay Packers.

After struggling in Green Bay, he was cut and then had a brief stint with Jacksonville. He was cut by the Jaguars in May of 2007 after being arrested for possession of ecstasy.

He was a standout at the University of Arkansas.

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MSG, NY Hot Topic: Brett Favre

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Should the Jets pursue Brett Favre?

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It is a no brainer for the Jets. Farve may be getting old but he could still throw a ball a qtr of a mile into the wind through a brick wall.

Posted by: Ted Theodore Logan | July 22, 2008 at 05:31 PM

Brett makes the Jets insatantly better. So long as they can move Pennington and afford to sign Farve its a no brainer.

Posted by: Gang-O-Green | July 22, 2008 at 05:34 PM

Yes I believe that the Jets should try to make a trade with Packers give GB, a second and 6 rd and or trade Pennington to GB. Sign Favre for a 3years Contract make sure that he want to play for least 2 or 3 yrs one year just don't seen worth it for him to just play one year than retired again. Don't think Clemens is the future for the Jets believe he just a little too short for the NFL. He did okay last year but he took alot of hits even know the offensive line was terrible if he keep getting hits like he did last year he will never make it. I like the pick from the draft taking QB,Erik Ainge he a big qb, too I think he going to be a futrue qb, for the Jets and what better way for a rookie qb, to lean from one the best and HOF QB, in the league. Make this trade get it done now.

Posted by: Jack | July 22, 2008 at 07:03 PM

I think the Jets should NOT sign Brett Farve. Its gonna cost major coin and its gonna kill the growth of Clemens.

Posted by: Yaky Treehorn | July 22, 2008 at 07:40 PM

Farve would be the best QB the jets have had since Joe Namath. Honestly he gives them proven leadership and a cannon arm for the jets explosive WR's

Posted by: Leo | July 22, 2008 at 07:42 PM

Why not! I would go after him if they an get him cheap. He's still better than Pennington or Clemens, so why not. Plus, I alsways wanted to see Favre on the Jets

Posted by: Darb From Jersey | July 22, 2008 at 08:01 PM

I think that Farve would make a great Jet. Especially once his knee explodes in week 2 of preseason. Thats just the Jets luck

Posted by: Steak From NYC | July 22, 2008 at 08:49 PM

Farve is a great quarterback. The Jets should go for him. He is better than Chad an Kellen Clemmens.

Posted by: rewrite | July 23, 2008 at 03:36 AM

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