Scott Dierking Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I supported it based on Jenkins already being given chances here. Its time to move on. Everyone says IF hes healthy, when will that be IF ever? Bob Sanders is an exciting football player IF healthy. We never gave Bob Sanders a chance. The NYJETS have a glaring need at safety. Maybe im being critical of Jenkins or just plain tired of his injury prone career here. Why would Bob Sanders experiences (or chances) be any different than what he had with the Colts? He was equally given chances, only to get hurt similarly to Jenkins. Different positions, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Why would Bob Sanders experiences (or chances) be any different than what he had with the Colts? He was equally given chances, only to get hurt similarly to Jenkins. Different positions, I know. Maybe a different strength and conditioning coach or different trainers would benefit him. Maybe even a change of scenery. Its history now hes already signed and we still need a Safety. I have my opinions and you yours and we may never agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Maybe a different strength and conditioning coach or different trainers would benefit him. Maybe even a change of scenery. You are whistling in the dark with that kind of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 You are whistling in the dark with that kind of thinking. Being a NYJETS fan for 47 years and remembering the Super Bowl when I was 5 does that to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Being a NYJETS fan for 47 years and remembering the Super Bowl when I was 5 does that to you. Didn't do it to me. You r just rambling on, most of what u say makes no sense. You can't play both sides. Sanders at saftey was injured just as much as Jenkins was on the dl..the DL mind you. as JiF said, a healthy Jenkins>>>>then a healthy Sanders. ( and more important) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Didn't do it to me. You r just rambling on, most of what u say makes no sense. You can't play both sides. Sanders at saftey was injured just as much as Jenkins was on the dl..the DL mind you. as JiF said, a healthy Jenkins>>>>then a healthy Sanders. ( and more important) I can do whatever I dam well please and ramble all I want. Just cause it makes no sense to you who the hell are you to judge? Im not playing both sides Jenkins has had his chances here. Bob Sanders is a different player who I dont remember reading about looking or being obese or out of shape like Jenkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 I can do whatever I dam well please and ramble all I want. Just cause it makes no sense to you who the hell are you to judge? Im not playing both sides Jenkins has had his chances here. Bob Sanders is a different player who I dont remember reading about looking or being obese or out of shape like Jenkins. In my best Ralph Kramden voice: You are a mental case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 In my best Ralph Kramden voice: You are a mental case. In my own voice. So are you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Bob Sanders is a different player who I dont remember reading about looking or being obese or out of shape like Jenkins. You no read look about Bob Sanders because Bob Sanders no play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 You no read look about Bob Sanders because Bob Sanders no play. Right. But do you remember reading or hearing about him being obesely overweight and out of shape as we did Jenkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Right. But do you remember reading or hearing about him being obesely overweight and out of shape as we did Jenkins? Guys that get hurt a lot, tend to continue to get hurt a lot, regardless age, size or fitness. Being a "viscous hitter" in the secondary only tends to prolong that problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Right. But do you remember reading or hearing about him being obesely overweight and out of shape as we did Jenkins? Its a lot easier to maintain weight when you are 200lbs and your job is to be lean and quick, as opposed to being the NT of a 3-4 defense who is already twice the size. Guys that get hurt a lot, tend to continue to get hurt a lot, regardless age, size or fitness. Being a "viscous hitter" in the secondary only tends to prolong that problem This the bottom line. He played an aggressive way, and he got injured doing it. IMO the guys done. I'd say the chances of Kris Jenkins playing a full season is much higher than Sanders at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Its a lot easier to maintain weight when you are 200lbs and your job is to be lean and quick, as opposed to being the NT of a 3-4 defense who is already twice the size. This the bottom line. He played an aggressive way, and he got injured doing it. IMO the guys done. I'd say the chances of Kris Jenkins playing a full season is much higher than Sanders at this point. I disagree. Bob Sanders in the right defense surrounded by the right players has a comeback season. Jenkins on the line in the trenches is far more of a reach of having success. IF the NYJETS resign him I hope im dead wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I disagree. Bob Sanders in the right defense surrounded by the right players has a comeback season. Jenkins on the line in the trenches is far more of a reach of having success. IF the NYJETS resign him I hope im dead wrong. Well, here's the problem. Sanders has never played a full season in the NFL...ever. In fact, only twice in his short career, has he played over 6 games in a season. And here's the part that stinks about him...he's getting injured without contact. When you start missing season from non-contact injuries...its pretty much over. In the other thread, you mentioned you need a solid secondary without a pass rush. Relying on Sanders under that logic is very smart. Secondly, Jenkins presence alone, makes our pass rush better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I supported it based on Jenkins already being given chances here. Its time to move on. Everyone says IF hes healthy, when will that be IF ever? Bob Sanders is an exciting football player IF healthy. We never gave Bob Sanders a chance. The NYJETS have a glaring need at safety. Maybe im being critical of Jenkins or just plain tired of his injury prone career here. So if Ben Roethlisberger knocks on your door and asks to take your daughter out are you going to complain when she says "NO! You're a rapist!" because she never gave him a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 So if Ben Roethlisberger knocks on your door and asks to take your daughter out are you going to complain when she says "NO! You're a rapist!" because she never gave him a chance? Family and football now? Is that really all you got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Well, here's the problem. Sanders has never played a full season in the NFL...ever. In fact, only twice in his short career, has he played over 6 games in a season. And here's the part that stinks about him...he's getting injured without contact. When you start missing season from non-contact injuries...its pretty much over. In the other thread, you mentioned you need a solid secondary without a pass rush. Relying on Sanders under that logic is very smart. Secondly, Jenkins presence alone, makes our pass rush better. 2007 15 games DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. Just sayin.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 2007 15 games DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. Just sayin.......... And since? Winners don't pay players for what they did 4 years ago, the evaluate near term and future returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 And since? Winners don't pay players for what they did 4 years ago, the evaluate near term and future returns. What has Jenkins done lately to help this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 What has Jenkins done lately to help this team? Nothing. My whole conversation here with you has been about how can you determine Sanders would be a great signing, but Jenkins would not be. The ideas seem counter-intuitive. If I were to make a speculative signing, and could do it on the cheap, my preference would be on Jenkins though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 2007 15 games DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. Just sayin.......... And guess who was the DPOY the year before him? Just sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 And guess who was the DPOY the year before him? Just sayin... JT on a 6-10 team that didntmake the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Family and football now? Is that really all you got? Who the hell are you to judge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Who the hell are you to judge? You brought my family into a football discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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