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#26 Greenseed4

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:47 PM

5 reasons to avoid Jets' GM job

2. The coordinator dilemma: Offensive coordinator Tony Sparano was hired only a year ago, but his offense was a failure. Ryan reportedly wants to start over on offense, but it'll be tough to attract a proven commodity because of Ryan's tenuous future. Norv Turner and Cam Cameron are on the short list, but neither one will be an easy get. This will be the most important decision they make.


I actually see this as being a reason for a coordinator to come here.

Any OC worth his beans in coordinating, who has aspirations of becoming a HC (or returning to that position) should see this as a win-win. If Rex rights the ship, then you have a good job, on a good team with great facilities in the NY/NJ area. If he tanks the team, you have a good shot at an in-house promotion to be Rex's successor.

The obvious problem would be that, the new OC has to bring offensive improvement to a team with Mark Sanzhez at the helm.
Hopefully that workload can be lessened just by getting Holmes back, and having a TE1 (not on crutches) starting on Sundays...Not to mention another year of development for Stephen Hill and Vladdy.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:51 PM

I love Revis, dude, but if you're spending 20% of your cap at the CB position, you have cap issues.


the cap is estimated to be 121 mil, the Jets are never gonna have revis occupying 24.2 mil of the cap.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:54 PM

With him what would have been different? They'd stil get beat down by the Patriots.


they took the Pats to OT in their house. with Revis maybe that's a win. there's no way to tell but my best guess, Revis is worth at least 2 wins on the schedule with his timely picks and shutting down of other team's best WR. besides this the loss of the team's best player is huge psychologically Teams need talent and they are gonna spend 110+ mil a year anyway.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:56 PM

Thats the difference between a QB and a CB.
Rodgers can win a Super Bowl with a bad OL and a bad defense.
Revis can't win with a horrible QB and offense.



this is all true but the Jets aren't picking between Revis and Rodgers. they are picking between Revis and... not having Revis. Let's be real, the Jets aren't gonna be looking at Aaron Rodgers or similar on the free agent market. Those players never make it there unless they have a torn labrum like Brees.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:24 PM

the cap is estimated to be 121 mil, the Jets are never gonna have revis occupying 24.2 mil of the cap.


I said the CB position. Revis + Cro is right there at 20%, before you even consider Wilson on down.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

I said the CB position. Revis + Cro is right there at 20%, before you even consider Wilson on down.


That's the problem. They have so much money locked in for 2 positions.
And while we might love Revis and Cromartie, the truth is, they were 8-8 last year with both of them plus the Wilson's of the world.
Revis will probably demand 15 mil per year. Without Revis, the Jets defense was still good this season.

You really can't pay one player $15 Million per year, especially if that player, regardless of how good he is, isn't going to turn the team around. And thats the situation the Jets are in, Trade him or pay him 15+ million per year after the season.

You pay Manning or Brady or Rodgers... You don't pay top dollar for a CB on a .500 team.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

jets can't give away general manager job

The New York Jets' general manager search is not going well. They have met with a ton of quality candidates, but the position remains open.

So what's the problem ?

"They can't give the position away," Fox Sports insider and NFL Network contributor Jay Glazer reported Sunday. "They are now calling back candidates that turned them down, saying please reconsider."



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Yikes.

This sort of thing usually does not happen because GM jobs are so hard to come by in the NFL.On the Jets' interview list are former Chicago Bears GM Jerry Angelo, in-house candidate Scott Cohen, Miami Dolphins assistant GM Brian Gaine, Pittsburgh Steelers executive Omar Khan, Seattle Seahawks vice president of football administration John Idzik, San Francisco 49ers director of player personnel Tom Gamble and New York Giants director of college scouting Marc Ross.

The Jets' situation is tricky because of coach Rex Ryan's presence and Woody Johnson's questionable ownership. Usually, a GM helps pick the coach. The situation is reversed this time.The Jets also lack offensive talent, not to mention an offensive coordinator. All of those factors are scaring away quality GM candidates.

UPDATE : Some people might want the job after all. ESPN reported later Sunday, citing sources, that the Jets will have follow-up talks with Angelo, Cohen and Khan, possibly starting Tuesday, and the team hopes to hire someone by Friday. ESPN also reported that former Denver Broncos GM Ted Sundquist interviewed for the job last week.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:04 PM

The Jets Need to Get Creative

Recent Playoff Games Illustrate What's Wrong With the Offense—It's Overmatched in Every Way

If Jets owner Woody Johnson and coach Rex Ryan watched the NFL's divisional-playoff games (and for the Jets' sake, one hopes they did), they should have come away understanding a cold truth about the 2012 season: The Jets' offense never possessed enough creativity or talent to be successful in the modern NFL.None of the eight teams that played over the weekend—even the teams that lost—scored fewer than 28 points, and the sources of that two-day shower of touchdowns and field goals were easy to identify. There were strong-armed quarterbacks making laserlike throws (Joe Flacco, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers). There was perfect synchronicity between a coordinator's smart, fresh strategy and his players' ability to carry it out (as the Atlanta Falcons demonstrated). And often, each of those factors played a part, as they did in the San Francisco 49ers' wielding of the "pistol" offense and the breathtaking performance by quarterback Colin Kaepernick that resulted.Those games should have given Johnson and Ryan pause as the Jets continue their parallel searches for a new general manager and offensive coordinator. Though hiring a general manager would seem the higher priority for any NFL team, given a GM's influence on a franchise's player-personnel decisions, in the short term finding an imaginative coordinator would reap a greater benefit for the Jets.

Here's why :
The Jets already are well over the prospective salary-cap threshold of $121 million for the 2013 season. Once the new general manager trims away a few veteran players to get the Jets under the cap, there is only so much change he will have the flexibility to effect. Quarterback Mark Sanchez is likely to remain on the roster, as are many of the same receivers, running backs and linemen who were part of the NFL's 30th-ranked offense.While the Jets may be able to make some immediate upgrades in the draft, the more practical way to improve their offense is to bring in a better, more resourceful play-caller. In firing Tony Sparano as the team's offensive coordinator after just one season, Ryan appeared to acknowledge as much."I want to be more of an attack-style team, whether it's running a different type of offense," he said. "That's what I'm looking to do. As hard as we are to attack defensively, I want to be the same way on offense."Ryan isn't far from outlining the proper profile here.

The reason Ryan is so well regarded as a defensive coach is that he can take lesser talent and "scheme it" into success, just as he and his former defensive coordinator, Mike Pettine, did last season. That the Jets finished eighth overall in total defense—without injured cornerback Darrelle Revis, with no elite pass rusher and with slow, aging linebackers—was a testament to Ryan's and Pettine's acumen. Because the Jets' offense has so many shortcomings, Ryan needs a similar mind to orchestrate it.In retrospect, Sparano was a poor fit from the start. It was presumed that, because the Wildcat formation had enhanced the Miami Dolphins' offense while Sparano was their head coach, he would have little trouble assimilating Tim Tebow into the Jets' offense. But not only did Sparano fail to make Tebow relevant, his overall philosophy—that the Jets' skill-position players would win their individual matchups against opposing linebackers and defensive backs—was ill-suited for his personnel. His was an offense based on the basics of football: Block your man. Get open. The quarterback will get you the ball. The Jets needed something more deceptive to free their receivers, open holes for their running backs and fool opposing defenses. They rarely fooled anyone—except perhaps Tebow.

The selection of Sparano's replacement is Ryan's first important decision following what he called his "fresh start" as the Jets' head coach, and it might be the most important decision of his tenure. He might settle on someone familiar, such as former Ravens offensive coordinator Cam Cameron. (The two worked together in Baltimore.) He might choose instead a candidate with a clean NFL slate, such as Stanford offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton.Either way, Ryan and Johnson have to recognize just how far the Jets are from competing with those eight playoff teams, from constructing the sort of offense that is necessary to survive these days in the NFL. And they must act accordingly.

A version of this article appeared January 15, 2013, on page A26 in the U.S. edition of The Wall Street Journal, with the headline : The Jets Need to Get Creative.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:20 PM

0-16 here we come
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:38 PM

If you are a player personnel guy like Gamble who still does not have job what will you say in your next interview that might happen next season.

Interviewer: "So are you upto tough challenges ?"
Gamble : "Always. Love challenges!"
Interviewer:"So why didn't you take the JETS job"

If there is a owner worth his salt out there who is looking for a GM he would automatically disqualify guys like Gamble, Heckert because they will be the guys who will get going when the going gets tough. A person with only strong self preservation skills, a resume decorator who will never want to get his hands dirty. Someone who will be the first one to ditch the boat at the first sign of a leak. That's what these guys are coming through as.

I think the JETS are caught in a bad year where so many openings are available. They are willing to wait for the right guy but the right guy has not shown up as yet.At the same time so far they have shown they are not going to jump and just hire a GM for the heck of it. Woody comes through as someone who gets it that an organization needs stability.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:13 AM


Interviewer: "So are you upto tough challenges ?"
Gamble : "Always. Love challenges!"
Interviewer:"So why didn't you take the JETS job"


Gamble : "At the time of our first interview we decided to allow one another more time before we finalized our deal. They (the Jets) needed to comply with the Rooney Rule, and I was in the middle of a deep playoff run...I didn't want the FortyNiners to think I had lost focus on my present responsibilties and agreed to meet again with Woody after the season had ended."
Interviewer: "So why didn't you take the job?"
Gamble : "The Jets fanbase required immediate action to appease their fans, and Woody decided to go another direction.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:04 AM

Gamble : "At the time of our first interview we decided to allow one another more time before we finalized our deal. They (the Jets) needed to comply with the Rooney Rule, and I was in the middle of a deep playoff run...I didn't want the FortyNiners to think I had lost focus on my present responsibilties and agreed to meet again with Woody after the season had ended."
Interviewer: "So why didn't you take the job?"
Gamble : "The Jets fanbase required immediate action to appease their fans, and Woody decided to go another direction.


Yes..that would fly!
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

I love Revis, dude, but if you're spending 20% of your cap at the CB position, you have cap issues.


What does it say when you have some of the best CBs in the league and still can't get to the QB?
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:17 AM

Gamble : "At the time of our first interview we decided to allow one another more time before we finalized our deal. They (the Jets) needed to comply with the Rooney Rule, and I was in the middle of a deep playoff run...I didn't want the FortyNiners to think I had lost focus on my present responsibilties and agreed to meet again with Woody after the season had ended."
Interviewer: "So why didn't you take the job?"
Gamble : "The Jets fanbase required immediate action to appease their fans, and Woody decided to go another direction.


So I guess the 2014 Super Bowl in our own stadium is out of the question then huh? :-/ oh boy.....2013-2014 season may be a LONG one guys!! Who do we get with #1 draft pick in 2014? I say Terry Bridgewater. The tattoo (and the $) buys Sanchez another year. Rex can go 0-16 and still have his job. Crazy cap issues...we went from SB contender to bottom of the barrel in a very short time
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

A Candidate Who Has a Clue

Jets GM Hopeful Ted Sundquist Predicted Sanchez/Tebow Might Not Work—Just Check His Blog

Sundquist predicted the Jets would have a mess at quarterback.

That the Jets have been tight-lipped about their general-manager search is, if possible, both surprising and expected.On the one hand, since hiring Rex Ryan as coach in 2009, the Jets have been the NFL's equivalent of a traveling salesman on a cross-country flight: They're going to talk, whether you want to ignore them or not. On the other hand, headhunter Jed Hughes of Korn/Ferry International KFY -1.15% is in charge of finding the new GM, and Hughes has a reputation for conducting searches that are always thorough and usually quiet.But if the Jets' reticence about the process makes it difficult to get a read on whom they might hire and, more important, how their next general manager might go about business, at least one candidate has eliminated some of the guesswork.

Ted Sundquist, the Denver Broncos' general manager from 2002 to 2008, interviewed with the Jets late last week, according to reports. (A Jets spokesman said the team wouldn't comment until the search had run its course.) But if the Jets or any of their fans wanted to get a sense of Sundquist's views or philosophies on drafting, signing or trading players, all they had to do was go online.Sundquist, who didn't respond to attempts to contact him, has maintained two websites, TedSundquist38.com and TheFootballEducator.com. There, he has blogged about the various decisions that a general manager must make, critiquing actual player-personnel scenarios and questions that had arisen around the league. In light of Sundquist's posts, it is no wonder Hughes, owner Woody Johnson and team president Neil Glat would want to interview him, for he has written in depth about the Jets—their quarterback situation, in particular.

For instance, in an entry on TedSundquist38.com dated March 26, 2012—four days after the Jets acquired Tim Tebow from the Broncos—Sundquist wrote that Tebow would go "up against another stressed out signal caller in New York's Mark Sanchez" for the starting-quarterback job. He accused the Jets of lacking "a detailed developmental plan" for grooming Sanchez into a franchise quarterback after they drafted him with the fifth overall pick in 2009, and he argued they needed to put one that could help Sanchez and Tebow into effect."For either young player to thrive this season it will be important that the Jets be upfront and communicate with both exactly what their role will be," he wrote. "Otherwise NYJ will likely enter 2012 with two 'head cases' under center."

As it turned out, Sundquist was right: Other than naming Sanchez the starter and Tebow the backup, the Jets never did set specific guidelines for how they would use the two quarterbacks, and each one's play (and in Tebow's case, playing time) suffered. Sanchez had the most trying season of his four-year career, completing less than 55% of his passes and committing 26 turnovers.In a Dec. 19 post on TheFootballEducator.com, Sundquist suggested the Jets should have seen such problems coming.Sundquist wrote that Sanchez, while in college at Southern California, had "violated the 36/60 rule when he was drafted" by the Jets. That is, he had neither started at least 36 games nor completed at least 60% of his passes during his collegiate career, making him a risky selection."These are hard numbers that paint a compelling picture of future success," Sundquist had written in an earlier blog post. As an example,he cited another former USC quarterback: the Kansas City Chiefs' Matt Cassel, who had attempted just 33 passes in college, signed a six-year, $63 million contract in 2009 and was now all but finished as Kansas City's starter."The numbers just didn't add up," Sundquist wrote Nov. 22, referring to Cassel's deal.

Granted, it is easy to second-guess general managers' decisions after they have made them. So what would Sundquist do if the Jets were to hire him ? He addressed that topic on TheFootballEducator.com on Jan. 7—just days before the Jets reportedly interviewed him.Within his first 30 days as general manager, he wrote, he would follow six principles that Michael Kanazawa, an expert in corporate strategy and transformation, had espoused for implementing an organizational action plan. Sundquist also cited research showing that the most important and positive steps a new senior executive can take in his first 100 days on the job are "to assemble and solidify a team" and "articulate a vision and goals."
The source of that research ? Korn/Ferry International.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:48 AM

Giants director of college scouting Marc Ross, among the first group of candidates to interview for the Jets' general-manager vacancy, has withdrawn his name, according to the New York Post.

In other news, I'm announcing that I won't run for President of the United States in 2016.

Ross was a non-factor in the Jets' search for Mike Tannenbaum's replacement, according to sources. Ross is a young executive with a bright future, but it wasn't going to happen with the Jets.

At this point, based on the direction of the search and what people are saying, I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets pick a so-called "cap" guy -- either Seahawks VP of football administration John Idzik or Steelers director of business and administration Omar Khan.

To that, I quote former longtime GM Bill Polian, who told SI's Peter King: "Football teams need to be led by football men who know how coaches think, how players think. You can't learn that in business school or law school."

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:17 PM

So I guess the 2014 Super Bowl in our own stadium is out of the question then huh? :-/ oh boy.....2013-2014 season may be a LONG one guys!! Who do we get with #1 draft pick in 2014? I say Terry Bridgewater. The tattoo (and the $) buys Sanchez another year. Rex can go 0-16 and still have his job. Crazy cap issues...we went from SB contender to bottom of the barrel in a very short time


This brings up an excellent point. The big game is played in our house next year. How sweet would it be to have us in the SB in our own house? Exactly. Woody knows that.

The 2013-14 season should be one of re-building and flushing out some cap issues, and It's actually perfect timing given the talent coming out in the 2014 draft if we were to have another sub .500 season. However, Woody is going to want the big dance in his house. I can see us making some ridiculously splashy signings just to make a push for the Super Bowl next year...even if it sets us back another five.

btw, what is this "bottom of the barrel" business you're talking about... 16 teams in the NFL had 7 wins or less. It was just a funky year. A LOT of injuries this year also.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 04:21 PM

Sources : Jets to pick GM soon


After searching for more than two weeks, the New York Jets are poised to name their next general manager. They will hire Mike Tannenbaum's replacement as early as Thursday, according to league sources.The front-runners are John Idzik and Omar Khan, front-office executives from the Seattle Seahawks and Pittsburgh Steelers, respectively, sources said. Jets assistant GM Scott Cohen also is considered a finalist.

Idzik and Khan were brought back for second interviews this week. In fact, Idzik was scheduled to meet Wednesday with team officials. Khan's second interview occurred Tuesday.

The Jets have interviewed no fewer than nine candidates, only two of whom have GM experience -- Jerry Angelo and Ted Sundquist, formerly of the Chicago Bears and Denver Broncos, respectively. Angelo has been involved in follow-up discussions with the team, but he hasn't been invited back for a second interview.Because they've talked to so many candidates in a seemingly meandering search, the Jets have come under criticism from those who believe it's an unattractive job. Sources close to the search, however, said from the outset it could take three weeks.

The Jets decided to expand the search after interviewing the top four names on their list, including former Atlanta Falcons director of player personnel Dave Caldwell. They were reportedly prepared to offer him a $1 million housing allowance, but Caldwell was hired by the Jacksonville Jaguars.CBSSports.com had earlier reported that the Jets would hire a new GM by Thursday.Idzik and Khan weren't among the first round of interviews.

The Jets also changed their objective along the way. The initial goal was to hire a GM with a strong scouting background, but Idzik and Khan are experts in salary-cap management and contract negotiations. If the Jets go in that direction, it could mean a greater say in personnel for coach Rex Ryan.Steelers GM Kevin Colbert said Khan shouldn't be stereotyped as a cap guy."He's very knowledgeable about how this business works -- I mean the football business, not just the business side of it," Colbert told reporters Wednesday in Pittsburgh. "He's been very strong in salary cap administration, but he's also observed and learned a lot about how the player personnel side of things works. We think he's ready and, if he gets the opportunity, good for him."

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:29 PM

Seattle Seahawks executive John Idzik has emerged as the clear front-runner to become the New York Jets' general manager and could be offered the job as early as Thursday night, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Pittsburgh Steelers executive Omar Khan is the other finalist for the job, according to league sources.Idzik and Khan both were brought back for second interviews this week.The Jets have changed their objective during their two-week search to find a replacement for GM Mike Tannenbaum, who was fired Dec. 31. The initial goal was to hire a GM with a strong scouting background, but Idzik and Khan are experts in salary-cap management and contract negotiations. If the Jets go in that direction, it could mean a greater say in personnel for coach Rex Ryan.

Idzik's strengths include managing salaries and the salary cap, but he has also worked in player personnel. He has been with the Seahawks the past six seasons after previously working in the front office for Tampa Bay and Arizona.The Jets have interviewed no fewer than nine candidates, only two of whom have GM experience -- Jerry Angelo and Ted Sundquist, formerly of the Chicago Bears and Denver Broncos, respectively. Angelo has been involved in follow-up discussions with the team, but he hasn't been invited back for a second interview.

Because they've talked to so many candidates in a seemingly meandering search, the Jets have come under criticism from those who believe it's an unattractive job. Sources close to the search, however, said from the outset it could take three weeks.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:43 AM

Jets GM John Idzik inherits a big mess

A case can be made that John Idzik just accepted the toughest general manager job in the NFL this offseason. The New York Jets, who agreed to terms with Idzik Friday, are a mess in more ways than one. The former Seattle Seahawks executive has inherited a long checklist of things to fix in New York. Let's examine the many challenges that await Idzik:

  • Posted Image Among the top items on new GM John Idzik's to-do list: get the Jets' salary cap in order and find a quarterback.

  • Fix the cap :
  • The Jets are nearly $20 million over the salary cap, according to a recent report from ESPN.com senior writer John Clayton. Former general manager Mike Tannenbaum put together an old and overpaid roster the past couple of years and left the next person – Idzik -- to foot the bill. Idzik will have to gut New York’s roster of expensive veterans and immediately get younger. Older, high-salary players like Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, Jason Smith and Eric Smith are the most likely targets to be released.
  • Find a quarterback :
  • The Jets will pay Mark Sanchez $8.25 million in guaranteed salary next season. But that doesn’t guarantee Sanchez will be the starting quarterback. Idzik’s job is to find the best quarterback New York can afford to compete against or supplant Sanchez. That could come via free agency or the draft. Sanchez had four seasons to prove that he is the long-term solution and failed. The Jets will have a new offense and a new offensive coordinator. If things work out properly, New York could also have a new quarterback.
  • Relating to Ryan :
  • Reportedly one of the big holdups during New York’s general manager search was candidates weren't going to be able to pick their own head coach. Jets owner Woody Johnson made it clear that the charismatic Rex Ryan is here to stay. Ryan led New York to back-to-back AFC title games in 2009 and 2010 and still has some equity from that. Idzik must successfully work hand-in-hand with Ryan for the Jets to turn things around.
  • In-house free agents :
  • The Jets have a few tough decisions to make with their own free agents. New York Pro Bowl safety LaRon Landry, starting tailback Shonn Greene and tight end Dustin Keller are all looking for contract extensions. As we mentioned earlier, New York’s salary cap will be very limited. It is possible the Jets could lose all three.
  • Tebow dilemma :
  • It’s clear that the coaching staff -- and particularly Ryan -- wants nothing to do with Tebow. An educated guess is Idzik agrees with Ryan and will trade or release Tebow sooner rather than later. The distraction that Tebow brings simply wasn’t worth it. He was never a good fit in New York. Idzik will try to pull off a coup by getting something, perhaps a late-round draft pick, in exchange for the polarizing backup quarterback. But an outright release seems more likely.
There is a reason the Jets were the last team to find a general manager this offseason. This was not an attractive job for many of the reasons we listed above. But Idzik obviously is a person who is not afraid of big challenges -- and it's time to get to work.

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