How the hell did we lose to this Raider team?

[SouthernJet]

Sadly its the loss that will keep us from playoff. I hope I am wrong, but I am at least 95% confident of a minimal wildcard spot 2016

[Savage69]

the raiders were playing red hot and the jets were flat at the time, plus mangold was hurt and the jets never travel well out west. geno smith really had little to do with that loss since seeing fitz wasn't playing any better at the time

In 2009 they beat the Raiders 38-0 and then beat the Chargers in the playoffs so not every west coast trip was bad..

[UnitedWhofans]

That seems to be the high point of the Raiders season, because they crashed after that. 

 

[greenwichjetfan]

The idea that Geno led them to 21-3 and to 28-6 is beyond laughable.  

As is the always ok able, he got all his numbers against prevent.  That's the ultimate excuse.  Bottom line he didn't turn it over an excessive amount.  He threw for 270ish, completed at a decent % and ran twice for over 30.  Great? Nope.  Good enough to win?  You know it is, Fitz has won with worse days.  

Hes just not Geno 

1) Why is the idea that Geno led to to 3 and 6 points beyond laughable? Was he not the QB then? Or is a QB not the one who is responsible for his team to score points? I'm beyond confused.

2) It's not an excuse when it's a fact. Look at the all-22 for that game on NFL.com. The raiders played shell defenses on the only two drives where Geno generated a touchdown. 

3) You're confused. You're saying Geno played well enough to win the game, when what you're trying to say is that Geno's stats (largely accumulated against shell defenses) were good enough to win a game in which the defense didn't suck. The two are not the same. Geno's stats may have been good enough to win in a game where the opposing team scored 6 points, or they may have been good enough to win a game like the 2003 steelers-jets 6-0 thriller. But for the game in which he actually played, Geno did not play well enough to win. For a QB, playing well enough to win means that his team won that game.

For a little clarity: Fitzy's stats yesterday playing against actual base defenses in regulation was 60.5%, 218 yards, 2 TDs. Those are better than Geno's numbers against Oak's shell defense. Were they good enough to win though? No, they weren't. Because Fitzy gave up a strip sack fumble for a TD, and the score was tied 20-20 at the end of regulation. You know what Fitz did then in OT? He played 'good enough to win' by throwing for 100% completion percentage, another 74 yards, and a TD to...you know....actually. win. the game.