win4ever Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 So, we did the next pick thread where we looked at guys picked at the same position that we picked a guy at. Now, let's try the previous pick. If you could go back to the 2015 and 2016 draft, and pick the guy at the same position taken ahead of our guy, would you do so? Remember, it's the draft as a whole. And please answer without looking first. 2015 and 2016. Please explain your rationale below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 2015 - Keep. Fowler was an OLB and Leo is 10x as good anyway. I was shocked when the Jags took Fowler over Leo. Devin Smith was clearly a bust but I think the player to go before him was Philip Dorsett who's been pretty much a bust too. Next was Mauldin, I remember liking Eli Harold better but Mauldin has been better so far. Who was taken before Petty? Garrett Grayson or Sean Mannion? Who was taken before Harrison? Have no idea. Same with Simon. Am I missing anyone? 2016 - hell yes, duh, wtf kind of question is that? That means we'd have Carson Wentz, no? And Leonard Floyd? And then this is where it gets tricky again. Was Jenkins listed as an OLB or DE? What was Ngakuoe? If that was the swap even better. Burris for who knows but who cares at this point? Same with Shell and Edwards and Peake. They're all insignificant because Carson Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Picking an earlier player will tend to give more value... I bet switching would be best... for both years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 2016 Draft Round 1: ILB Darron Lee Round 2: QB Christian Hackenberg Round 3: OLB Jordan Jenkins Round 4: CB Juston Burris Round 5: T Brandon Shell Round 7: P Lachlan Edwards Round 7: WR Charone Peake 2015 Draft Round 1, Pick 6 Leonard Williams, DL Round 2, Pick 37, Devin Smith, WR Round 3, Pick 83, Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB Round 4, Pick 103, Bryce Petty, QB Round 5, Pick 152, Jarvis Harrison G Round 5, Pick 223, Deon Simon, DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, JiF said: 2015 - Keep. Fowler was an OLB and Leo is 10x as good anyway. I was shocked when the Jags took Fowler over Leo. Devin Smith was clearly a bust but I think the player to go before him was Philip Dorsett who's been pretty much a bust too. Next was Mauldin, I remember liking Eli Harold better but Mauldin has been better so far. Who was taken before Petty? Garrett Grayson or Sean Mannion? Who was taken before Harrison? Have no idea. Same with Simon. Am I missing anyone? 2016 - hell yes, duh, wtf kind of question is that? That means we'd have Carson Wentz, no? And Leonard Floyd? And then this is where it gets tricky again. Was Jenkins listed as an OLB or DE? What was Ngakuoe? If that was the swap even better. Burris for who knows but who cares at this point? Same with Shell and Edwards and Peake. They're all insignificant because Carson Wentz. Ok, I'm going to put the spoiler on for anyone else that doesn't want to know before picking. Spoiler 2015 Leo--------Fowler Jr Devin Smith......Philip Dorsett Mauldin........Tricky (Randy Gregory is next LB....next LB is Stephone Anthony in the first) Petty.............Sean Mannion Jarvis Harrison........Mark Gowinski Deon Simon.........Rakeem Nunez-Roches I think it's pretty close to a slam dunk Keep. 2016 Lee........Leonard Floyd Hackenberg..........Paxton Lynch Jordan Jenkins.........Tricky since next LB is Su'a Cravens...next OLB is Myles Jack Burris...........Ryan Smith Brandon Shell........Joe Haeg Lachlan Edwards.......Riley Dixon Charone Peake.........Devin Fuller This one isn't a slam dunk, although you can make an argument for both sides. 29 minutes ago, Skeptable said: Picking an earlier player will tend to give more value... I bet switching would be best... for both years It usually does, but I think the comparison is interesting here. As I point out in the spoiler section, it's not very clear cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Leo and Adams should have both gone top 3. Lucky for us NFL GM's are all a bunch of ? Monkeys ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 6 hours ago, JiF said: 2015 - Keep. Fowler was an OLB and Leo is 10x as good anyway. I was shocked when the Jags took Fowler over Leo. Devin Smith was clearly a bust but I think the player to go before him was Philip Dorsett who's been pretty much a bust too. Next was Mauldin, I remember liking Eli Harold better but Mauldin has been better so far. Who was taken before Petty? Garrett Grayson or Sean Mannion? Who was taken before Harrison? Have no idea. Same with Simon. Am I missing anyone? 2016 - hell yes, duh, wtf kind of question is that? That means we'd have Carson Wentz, no? And Leonard Floyd? And then this is where it gets tricky again. Was Jenkins listed as an OLB or DE? What was Ngakuoe? If that was the swap even better. Burris for who knows but who cares at this point? Same with Shell and Edwards and Peake. They're all insignificant because Carson Wentz. Paxton Lynch, Paxton Lynch ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 15 hours ago, win4ever said: Ok, I'm going to put the spoiler on for anyone else that doesn't want to know before picking. Reveal hidden contents 2015 Leo--------Fowler Jr Devin Smith......Philip Dorsett Mauldin........Tricky (Randy Gregory is next LB....next LB is Stephone Anthony in the first) Petty.............Sean Mannion Jarvis Harrison........Mark Gowinski Deon Simon.........Rakeem Nunez-Roches I think it's pretty close to a slam dunk Keep. 2016 Lee........Leonard Floyd Hackenberg..........Paxton Lynch Jordan Jenkins.........Tricky since next LB is Su'a Cravens...next OLB is Myles Jack Burris...........Ryan Smith Brandon Shell........Joe Haeg Lachlan Edwards.......Riley Dixon Charone Peake.........Devin Fuller This one isn't a slam dunk, although you can make an argument for both sides. It usually does, but I think the comparison is interesting here. As I point out in the spoiler section, it's not very clear cut. Nevermind... I got it... eh... I could argue that both would be better... Fowler got hurt so last year was his red shirted rookie campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 10 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Paxton Lynch, Paxton Lynch ☹️ Yep! I have a terrible memory. lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Skeptable said: Nevermind... I got it... eh... I could argue that both would be better... Fowler got hurt so last year was his red shirted rookie campaign It really depends on Fowler's recovery but I'm not sure I can take that because Leo is a stud. I think the second year is much more debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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