kelly Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Home > The Way We Hear It > Whispers June 7, 2008 ~ ~ ~ With the headache that Chris Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Never heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Mark my words, Dustin Keller will be one of the best late picks ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkid94 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Mark my words, Dustin Keller will be one of the best late picks ever. I'm with ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Mark my words, Dustin Keller will be one of the best late picks ever. Late pick? He was a first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Mark my words, Dustin Keller will be one of the best late picks ever. Interesting sidenote, Ghost think Reggie Bush is a first ballott HOFer. Or what that blackout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Late pick? He was a first rounder. Late 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Interesting sidenote, Ghost think Reggie Bush is a first ballott HOFer. Or what that blackout? I never said that. Lol I just wish we traded up for him, this team would be much better if we have him than Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColesFan1 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I think this guy is going to be the 1st round TE pick that actually works out well for the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I never said that. Lol I just wish we traded up for him, this team would be much better if we have him than Ferguson. What has Bush done to show that he could be successful even with a poor offensive line? You cornerstone of every good offense is a good offensive line, without a good o-line you can just forget about anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 What has Bush done to show that he could be successful even with a poor offensive line? You cornerstone of every good offense is a good offensive line, without a good o-line you can just forget about anything else. I agree 110% but Ferguson has not shown us any signs of him being an elite LT. Bush has done much more in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColesFan1 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I agree 110% but Ferguson has not shown us any signs of him being an elite LT. Bush has done much more in my opinion. Well maybe we'll see him branch out a little more now that the o-line is more stronger who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Well maybe we'll see him branch out a little more now that the o-line is more stronger who knows He's slightly below average right now, I think he has to branch out a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I never said that. Lol I just wish we traded up for him, this team would be much better if we have him than Ferguson. you think New Orleans would have taken just a 4th overall pick for their number 2? I believe the deal would have included everybody's favorite Nick Mangold and Leon Washington to jump those two spots. I'm very glad we don't have Bush. I wouldn't even trade Brick for him straight up. We already have our scat back...and he is actually affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 you think New Orleans would have taken just a 4th overall pick for their number 2? I believe the deal would have included everybody's favorite Nick Mangold and Leon Washington to jump those two spots. I'm very glad we don't have Bush. I wouldn't even trade Brick for him straight up. We already have our scat back...and he is actually affordable. I'm sure they could of used another player and If you wouldn't trade Ferguson for Bush, then something is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I'm sure they could of used another player and If you wouldn't trade Ferguson for Bush, then something is wrong. Bush = average brick = average I'd trade brick for any number of RB's but not a scat back wanna be WR. Why is it that Bush couldn't post a single 100 yard rushing game last year and his back up was able to do it 3 weeks in a row? Aaron Stecker must be a pro bowl back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Bush = average brick = average I'd trade brick for any number of RB's but not a scat back wanna be WR. Why is it that Bush couldn't post a single 100 yard rushing game last year and his back up was able to do it 3 weeks in a row? Aaron Stecker must be a pro bowl back. I'd rather have Bush and Marcus McNeil than Ferguson/Mangold/Washington. Bush has 1146 rushing yards in two seasons--that's terrible. But he has 161 reciotions for 1,159 yards. Bush will change defenses, he's much more than a decoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I agree 110% but Ferguson has not shown us any signs of him being an elite LT. Bush has done much more in my opinion. Bush hasn't show any signs of being an elite RB. At least Ferguson is going to have some help this year in the person of Alan Faneca, who is just a slight improvement over Adrien Clarke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I'd rather have Bush and Marcus McNeil than Ferguson/Mangold/Washington. Bush has 1146 rushing yards in two seasons--that's terrible. But he has 161 reciotions for 1,159 yards. Bush will change defenses, he's much more than a decoy. It's nice to think we would have grabbed McNeil but chances are far more likely that we would have drafted Eric Winston or Winston Justice with the late first, had we not gone O-linemen at the fourth pick. If you are wondering who those bums are, one is a bust on the Eagles and the other is an Okay RT. If you are saying we should do an entire redraft, lets start with Ed Reed over Bryan Thomas, otherwise, hindsight is a waste of time. BTW - Bush's receptions are pretty good and would be nice to have but are not anywhere near worth the contract he is carrying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 It's nice to think we would have grabbed McNeil but chances are far more likely that we would have drafted Eric Winston or Winston Justice with the late first, had we not gone O-linemen at the fourth pick. If you are wondering who those bums are, one is a bust on the Eagles and the other is an Okay RT. If you are saying we should do an entire redraft, lets start with Ed Reed over Bryan Thomas, otherwise, hindsight is a waste of time. BTW - Bush's receptions are pretty good and would be nice to have but are not anywhere near worth the contract he is carrying around. How do you know we were interested in either Justice or Winston? The fact of the matter is we would of been better. I'm glad that Ferguson is not a 'bust' yet but if keeps this up, he will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 How do you know we were interested in either Justice or Winston? The fact of the matter is we would of been better. I'm glad that Ferguson is not a 'bust' yet but if keeps this up, he will be. both of those scrubs were ahead of McNeil on most draft boards (until the actual draft) and we could have just as easily landed any of the three had we not taken brick. I'd love to have a re-do on the draft but the fact still remains, i'm glad we didn't take leinhart, Young or Cutler (no i'm not a fan of cutler, he may prove me wrong this year...we'll see). Overall i thought it was a good draft class, could be great if Kellen pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Mark my words, Dustin Keller will be one of the best late picks ever. I have to agree with you on this.Its guys like these that come to play the game instead of the pretty boys who demand big $$$ and never pan out. This kid looks like hes gonna be a good one.Johny Mitchell used to line up in all different formations he was a good one short lived but good.I still remember the game he lit Philadelphia up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I have to agree with you on this.Its guys like these that come to play the game instead of the pretty boys who demand big $$$ and never pan out. This kid looks like hes gonna be a good one.Johny Mitchell used to line up in all different formations he was a good one short lived but good.I still remember the game he lit Philadelphia up. SOOO LETS GETT SHOCKEY!!!!!!! NEED ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 both of those scrubs were ahead of McNeil on most draft boards (until the actual draft) and we could have just as easily landed any of the three had we not taken brick. I'd love to have a re-do on the draft but the fact still remains, i'm glad we didn't take leinhart, Young or Cutler (no i'm not a fan of cutler, he may prove me wrong this year...we'll see). Overall i thought it was a good draft class, could be great if Kellen pans out. Your pushing it man, If we had Cutler we'd be set. flsdhfldshf WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Your pushing it man, If we had Cutler we'd be set. flsdhfldshf WOW! Cutler is the most overated QB in the league. He's nothing more than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Cutler is the most overated QB in the league. He's nothing more than average. :rl: You can't be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 :rl: You can't be serious. Explain why I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I'd rather have Bush and Marcus McNeil than Ferguson/Mangold/Washington. Bush has 1146 rushing yards in two seasons--that's terrible. But he has 161 reciotions for 1,159 yards. Bush will change defenses, he's much more than a decoy. How the hell do you think we would have gotten McNeil and Bush? If we got Bush it would of involved us trading up and probably using all of our day 1 picks to move up two spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 How the hell do you think we would have gotten McNeil and Bush? If we got Bush it would of involved us trading up and probably using all of our day 1 picks to move up two spots It would have definetly. The Jets would have had to trade the house to get that overhyped JAG. Bush is nothing special, never was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 How the hell do you think we would have gotten McNeil and Bush? If we got Bush it would of involved us trading up and probably using all of our day 1 picks to move up two spots Thanks for butting in. If you read all the posts drago mentioned that, and I told him we could of traded a player or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 It would have definetly. The Jets would have had to trade the house to get that overhyped JAG. Bush is nothing special, never was. You got to be kidding me man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Explain why I'm wrong. Hmm.. Cutler has better arm strength, accuracy, and better footwork than both Pennington and Clemens. With him on this team the Jets would be a TOP 10 team today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 You got to be kidding me man. He can't run the football. Pretty important aspect of being a running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 He can't run the football. Pretty important aspect of being a running back. He split carries with practically 3 Running backs behind a decent offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Hmm.. Cutler has better arm strength, accuracy, and better footwork than both Pennington and Clemens. With him on this team the Jets would be a TOP 10 team today. Cutler has done jack **** in Denver despite playing in a great situation. He has Brandon Marshall (Maybe the most underated WR in the league, (had) Javon Walker, Brandon Stokley, Tony Scheffler and a great running game backing him up. Still he produces nothing more that mediocre stats and results. He's also in a system perfect for his physical abilities, in any other system he'd look even worse. I never understood the hype surrounding Cutler, people make him out to be John Elway II, I just don't see much in him to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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