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K_O_Brien

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  1. Yep, that's the first deal-breaker before even thinking about Jeudy at 11. There's a strong probability Douglas likes 2-3 of the tier 2 OTs. Let's say he is comfortable with taking one of Jones, Jackson and Cleveland, with a view to one of them becoming a long-term starter at tackle. But even if he does, it is likely so too will a bunch of other teams, who all get to pick after 11 and before 48. Teams like Miami, NE, NO, Cin, Jax, GB, Min, NYG (if they pass a 4). How comfortable would I be if I'm Douglas, watching the rest of the first round play out, knowng there are 6 or 7 teams with a need at tackle and only 3 players I like? If there is a decent chance the second tier of tackles are gone by our second pick, you are now down to the third tier guys. If we are drafting a third tier tackle, then we have failed Darnold again. Of course, we could move back into the bottom of the first round to grab a tackle, but that potential loss of draft capital needs to be factored into any decision to take Jeudy at 11. Tough choices.
  2. True, but it's harder to evaluate individual play of a left tackle. PFF grades maybe? Top ten o-lines as a unit...by PFF Eagles, Ravens, Saints, Packers, Titans, Patriots playoffs Colts, Cowboys, Bucs, Steelers missed playoffs. So still not a slam dunk that a top ten o-line will get up into the playoffs. But of the teams that missed, the Colts and the Steelers were down to back-up QBs and the Steelers till nearly made it in with Bucky Hodges. The Bucs had Winston throwing 30 picks so expect their record to change now with Brady. And the Cowboys.... who should think twice about paying Prescott if he can't get it done behind that line. It's kind of hard not to make the play offs with a top ten o-line. The Titans are the poster boy for that. Invest two first round picks in Lewan and Conklin, and you can make it to the AFC Championship game with Ryan Tannehill.
  3. I agreed with the rest of your post, that is why I left it out. ? Jeudy is in the conversation. 100%. I just think with positional value that if you're Joe Douglas, you have to think Jeudy is way, way better at being a WR than the Wirfs/Wills/Becton/Thomas are at being a tackle, to justify picking Jeudy at 11. You're right about the lack of top tackles that have been drafted recently, but if anything that only increases the stakes in finding the right one this year. Ultimately it's much harder to find top tier left tackles than top tier wide receivers. You can find excellent receivers most years in rounds 2 and 3, and definitely so in 2020.
  4. Moving from 48 to 31 puts us in no man's land if Josh Jones, Jefferson, Mims, etc are gone. Not sure who we'd be moving up for in that case. Niang? Don't think we'd have to give up a third there. If we're trading up or down, 20-25 is the sweet spot for receivers. Moving down from 11 to 16 makes a little more sense. I wouldn't go any lower than that if we want a tackle.
  5. Maybe so, but Jeudy may need to be significantly better at being a WR than Wirfs/Wills/Becton/Thomas are at being Tackle. Tackles are more important than having a stud receiver. Top ten wide receivers last year by yardage, and their team record Thomas 13-3 Jones 7-9 Godwin 7-9 Parker 5-11 Allen 5-11 Golladay 3-12-1 Cooper 8-8 Moore 5-11 Landry 6-10 Hopkins 10-6 Two top ten receivers in teams with a winning record. I love Jeudy. Wouldn't hate the pick if it happens, but if a top tackle is there at 11, I don't see Douglas looking to take a receiver.
  6. Fun site to play around with. Unless you'er totally enamoured with one of the 4 OT's and he is there at 11, I think picks 20-25 is the potential sweet spot in the draft for the NYJ. That's where you can trade down for Jones/Jackson and trade up from 48 for Jefferson/Mims. Easier said than done.
  7. Burrow - CIN (floor is 1) Young - WAS, DET, NYG (floor is 4) Tua - WAS, MIA, LAC, CAR (floor is 6) Okudah - DET, NYG, CAR, JAX (floor is 9) Herbert - MIA, LAC, CAR (floor is 7) Simmons - NYG, CAR, ARZ, JAX (floor is 9) Wirfs - NYG, LAC, ARZ, JAX, CLE (floor is 10) That's seven players who will definitely be off the board when we pick. It is harder to predict some of the other guys. If JD has a 'big four' tackle board and he wants to take one at 11, we still need one of Brown, Lamb, Jeudy, Kinlaw, Love to go in top ten. It should happen, but it's no lay-up either.
  8. Week 16, losing to the 3-11 Seahawks in 2008 was rough. They had Seneca Wallace at QB and were down three o linemen. It was Holmgren's last game and the crowd was up for it. They were still crap though but beat us 13-3.
  9. I'm sure but honestly, I don't know enough about those late 2nd/3rd tier OL guys to be happy to wait until day 2/3 to find our tackle. When it comes to the left tackle position, I don't want us to get too cute. It feels like we already are gambling somewhat with Fant. I just want us to take the safest tackle on offer at 11.
  10. That is an issue. 48 is too late to grab the second tier of WRs. Jefferson, Mims, maybe even Reagor, Aiyuk if there is a run on receivers. So if we go tackle at 11, we are left with the third tier of WRs. There will be some good guys still there at 48 but it feels like we are missing out on the cream of the crop in a historic class.
  11. Could happen. If Wirfs and Wills are off the board, I can see Douglas making a few phone calls.
  12. Personally, don't trust/know Fant enough to slot him in as our left tackle. He could become the guy but I want us to take a tackle at 11 and they can battle it out in camp. Edoga looked ok-ish last year at RT.
  13. Other than a possible vet move at left tackle, that might be it until the draft? LT - #11 (Fant) LG - Lewis (Rookie) C - McGovern (Harrison) RG - Van Roten (Andrews) RT - Fant (Edoga) One piece left, unfortunately it is the biggest piece, left tackle.
  14. With the 48th pick in the 2020 NFL draft, the New York Jets select........
  15. Ha, we will have to lock Gregg out of the draft war room. Probably Gase too. Like we should have done with Rex all those years.
  16. I think McGovern takes us out of looking at OL with #48, assuming we do so at 11. 11 OT 48 WR 68 OG 79 WR
  17. Personally I don't rate that Robby that highly tbh. He is ok but I'd rather sign Perriman for 3-4m cheaper and draft those two rookie WRs as you mention. Ultimately I think... Clowney + 2rd round WR > Robby + 2nd round Edge. It's not quite that simple of course but this is an offense-loaded draft and we should take advantage of that. Probably all moot anyway. I don't see Clowney signing.
  18. Ordinarily I would agree. I would love to spend some of the $36m we have available on our offence, but other than o-line depth, I am not sure there is anyone worth pursuing? Some will say Robby, but I think we can get a comparable or better receiver in the third round. Trent Williams? Maybe, but I would prefer to find our long-term answer to tackle at 11. So if OL and WR can be addressed in the draft, other than o-line depth what should we do now with the rest of free agency? I think this is why we are interested in Clowney. We have the cap space and after Young, this is a mediocre draft class for edge rushers.
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