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Also, Ishy could technically be a silvertongue.

 

He really does seem to be inactive compared to what I would expect of him, but since that line of conjecture is almost certainly false let's not stick to it until we have to.

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Same here. 

 

I really thought JC was scum. 

 

1. Leelou - confirmed town
3. Klecko - very game content inactive, unable to get a good read on
4. Halia - playing very clean
9. Ishy - confirmed town
12. Lovely Lilly - not seeing her scum tells 
17. JVOR - investigative role 
19. Darthe - all over the place and not following the game

 

I agree on the claiming. 

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I claimed near the beginning of the game.  Something is definitely off here.

 

Not killing JVOR means that the mafias ability to win is now a crapshoot.  If he had confirmed another townsmember in the night then we would have Ishy, Leelou, JVOR, and that person + myself (strongly psuedo confirmed as the first to claim Viagra and a VT, as well as the first to claim that it was stolen, again words and actions corroborated by the deaths of others) which leaves only two people: Lily and Hally. However, neither is producing scum reads like at all.

 

Ishy and I are essentially left with the choice between going after Lily and Hally or assuming that Viagra is a mafia controlled ability and Lily/JVOR are working together and sacrificed a member of their team to win.  My thoughts are that we have two days worth of lynches left and must have the scum team in one of these two groups, thus the solution is to lynch from one and if a town flip returns then we lynch from the other.

 

The only potential risk is if they have more than a single kill.. But it doesn't seem likely.

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My choices are Klecko and Leelou.  If JVOR is lying then Leelou will likely be scum with him, but JVOR could be lying without her doing so and Klecko could be an SK with him as mafia or vice versa.  Hally is playing directly on her town meta though.  

 

You should vote Klecko with me Lily.

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My choices are Klecko and Leelou.  If JVOR is lying then Leelou will likely be scum with him, but JVOR could be lying without her doing so and Klecko could be an SK with him as mafia or vice versa.  Hally is playing directly on her town meta though.  

 

You should vote Klecko with me Lily.

 

First of all, I don't like being told what to do

 

Secondly, I might switch in that direction, but I'd rather follow my gut and it says Hally. 

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Yes. You should claim now.

 

 

OK, I'm the vig. I win with the town. 

 

I need viagra to kill. I forgot to guess who had viagra yesterday so I had no nightkill otherwise I would have taken Darthe out. 

 

I say we lynch either Hallia or Darthe and somebody can give me a viagra and will kill the other one tonight - guaranteeing a town victory. 

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Ok, if that's the case let's lynch Darthe, Hallia, or Lily. Klecko, if Darthe isn't scum, then shoot Hallia tonight.

Vote Darthe

This is the scum setup. And I now have proof. JVOR kills Klecko tonight (obvious SK) and Klecko kills Hally, leaving the game at Lylo with him confirmed and he will claim to have viewed the dead person.

Klecko just admitted that he was SK with the pressure to speed lynch me. Viagra was stolen from myself first, Csarmi second, and I can't recall if Ishy was third.

However, in taking it from me he would have to know that I am town, and since I was the first to claim it stolen I could not know that it was possible to be stolen unless I actually had Viagra: thus I am town and a town vig would inexorably know this and not want to lynch me.

Kill Klecko today, and tomorrow we can see about JVOR.

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Here is why we can see about JVOR: other he is honest or lying. Tonight after Klecko dies mafia has to kill one of myself, JVOR, Ishy, or Leelou because the only remaining unconfirmed people will be Leelou and Hally.

Thus, if JVOR lives again the mafia cannot win and thus it can't be their play. However, 5/1 means that in lynching JVOR we can eliminate that all too likely risk and validate his claims, then leaving three against one with two of the three confirmed. Best scenario.

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