T0mShane Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 This whole idea that Idzik has some master plan would be far worse than incompetence. So he would tank drafts, decimate certain positions, alienate free agents and their agents, and set a coach up to fail (when Rex can do that just fine on his own), damaging the lockerooom culture to get his own guy? What coach is going to come into that situation? Rex has to go, but the Jets would be looking at High School coaches if that was the case. Here's a little chronological oddity I like to refer to when I think of John Idzik's possible plan: Idzik was named Jets GM on January 18th, 2013. Darrell Bevell signed a one-year extension to remain the Seahawks OC exactly one day prior to that. Coincidence, perhaps. But it looks to me like a handshake agreement between the Seahawks and Bevell and Idzik to leave their guy alone for a year. My belief is that the Seahawks Super Bowl run, combined with Woody getting conned by the Jets going 8-8 last year, set Idzik's plan back a year. I believe that Rex will be fired, Bevell will be hired, and they're going to let Bevell pick his own skill position players when he gets here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Here's a little chronological oddity I like to refer to when I think of John Idzik's possible plan: Idzik was named Jets GM on January 18th, 2013. Darrell Bevell signed a one-year extension to remain the Seahawks OC exactly one day prior to that. Coincidence, perhaps. But it looks to me like a handshake agreement between the Seahawks and Bevell and Idzik to leave their guy alone for a year. My belief is that the Seahawks Super Bowl run, combined with Woody getting conned by the Jets going 8-8 last year, set Idzik's plan back a year. I believe that Rex will be fired, Bevell will be hired, and they're going to let Bevell pick his own skill position players when he gets here. Conspiracy theories aside, I have zero interest in another promoted coordinator if/when Rex is fired. Let's get a guy in here who's done the job before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Tom has a wild imagination I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Tom has a wild imagination I think Says the guy who spends his nights wearing a black sateen cape hunting vampires in Hoboken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Conspiracy theories aside, I have zero interest in another promoted coordinator if/when Rex is fired. Let's get a guy in here who's done the job before. As much as you want it, Parcells isn't coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 As much as you want it, Parcells isn't coming back. Parcells did worse each and every stop after leaving the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Idzik certainly has much to prove moving forward, but what's becoming clearer is the degree to which Rex has helped tie the noose around his own neck. Could Idzik have tried to bail him out with a few free agent acquisitions this year? Sure. But saving the coach from himself, while jeopardizing his own long-term flexibility, is in no one's best interest other than Rex's. it's like we didn't even read the same article. I read the article as a total indictment of Idzik and his talentless roster. You saw it as somehow poking at Rex for the lack of offensive talent. Why split hairs, let's just blow it up and start over with a new regime. the next question is whether you start with a GM or a HC? a strong GM means no shot at "name" coaches. starting with the HC means no chance at a true personnel oriented GM. I could totally see Woody bringing Holmgren in next yr to run the whole show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Parcells did worse each and every stop after leaving the Giants. Don't do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 As much as you want it, Parcells isn't coming back. Thats what this is going to take. It's going to take someone to come in here and rip it apart from the top down to the water boys. You let Idzik Hire Quinn or Bevell and the Jets are a guaranteed 5-11 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 When your O goes 3 and out 6 times. and you only have 12 possessions, it's a good thing holding Manning and the Bronco's to 24 points What if Rex's "elite" defense forced the Broncos and Manning to 6, 3-and outs? The soft Jets defense ranks dead last in the NFL in INT's and forced fumbles. But yea, the Jets are 1-5 because of the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 it's like we didn't even read the same article. I read the article as a total indictment of Idzik and his talentless roster. You saw it as somehow poking at Rex for the lack of offensive talent. Why split hairs, let's just blow it up and start over with a new regime. the next question is whether you start with a GM or a HC? a strong GM means no shot at "name" coaches. starting with the HC means no chance at a true personnel oriented GM. I could totally see Woody bringing Holmgren in next yr to run the whole show. Holmgren was semi-retired when he was running the Browns into the ground. Battista was indicting the whole organization, including Idzik. The entire product is riddled with dysfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Holmgren was semi-retired when he was running the Browns into the ground. Battista was indicting the whole organization, including Idzik. The entire product is riddled with dysfunction. Let's fire them all, move the team to Berlin, and let me get back to being a music fan. I can't name a current baseball player. I love that. ******* Jets will probably move training camp back to LI just as I'm ready to jump ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Let's fire them all, move the team to Berlin, and let me get back to being a music fan. I can't name a current baseball player. I love that. ******* Jets will probably move training camp back to LI just as I'm ready to jump ship. Sometimes I wonder how my worldview would change if the Jets were ever actually good for a five-year stretch of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Thats what this is going to take. It's going to take someone to come in here and rip it apart from the top down to the water boys. You let Idzik Hire Quinn or Bevell and the Jets are a guaranteed 5-11 next year. Maybe, but I think you're underestimating how poor the leadership within the Jets is. Rex is a substitute teacher and the players know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Maybe, but I think you're underestimating how poor the leadership within the Jets is. Rex is a substitute teacher and the players know it. And not the Tom Berenger kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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