Savage69 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 You guys make me laugh. You are so focused on your little cause that you just don't see straight. You've got these apparent demerits, many of which I don't even agree with, that are somehow supposed to outweigh the man's tangible accomplishments. What great accomplishments? This is how we judge coaches now? I go by their record. Savage rips ABE and Cumar on a regular basis and now we are to accept Herm is blessed by their mere presence when he took over. Herm screwed up all the schemes and put players at the wrong positions, but we are suppose to somehow disregard that he won while doing so? You guy are entitled to think what you want. I accept it, but see it very differently. Enjoy. See here's where you get into Lying to make a silly point!! Back up your statement! Show me a post where I rip Abe!! I like Abe and have defended him on the JI Board and agreed with YJF on this Board that he was too hurt to play this past year in the Playoffs! Here's a link http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/showthread.php?t=94087&page=3 Moreover will you then say George Seifert was a great Coach since he won a Super Bowl with the 49's and never had a record in his 8 yrs worse then 10-6?? Or doesn't that count with him?? The only people I kill on a regular basis is Martin and Hermie!! Hey don't let facts or the Truth get in the way when you make a point! And answer the Question on Seifert because going on your criteria you must think he's a Great Coach record wise! Forget when he went to the Panthers he was 8-8 7-9 then 1-15..Of course 124 thinks the Cats were loaded with Talent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 See here's where you get into Lying to make a silly point!! Back up your statement! Show me a post where I rip Abe!! I like Abe and have defended him on the JI Board and agreed with YJF on this Board that he was too hurt to play this past year in the Playoffs! Here's a link http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/showthread.php?t=94087&page=3 Moreover will you then say George Seifert was a great Coach since he won a Super Bowl with the 49's and never had a record in his 8 yrs worse then 10-6?? Or doesn't that count with him?? The only people I kill on a regular basis is Martin and Hermie!! Hey don't let facts or the Truth get in the way when you make a point! And answer the Question on Seifert because going on your criteria you must think he's a Great Coach record wise! Forget when he went to the Panthers he was 8-8 7-9 then 1-15..Of course 124 thinks the Cats were loaded with Talent!! Damn Savage, you JUST have to locate that enter key on your keyboard. Ya know, the things that create paragraphs. Anything more than one of your patented one-liners is like reading War and Peace in a 3 font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Damn Savage, you JUST have to locate that enter key on your keyboard. Ya know, the things that create paragraphs. Anything more than one of your patented one-liners is like reading War and Peace in a 3 font. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meddle Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 See here's where you get into Lying to make a silly point!! Back up your statement! Show me a post where I rip Abe!! I like Abe and have defended him on the JI Board and agreed with YJF on this Board that he was too hurt to play this past year in the Playoffs! Here's a link http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/showthread.php?t=94087&page=3 Moreover will you then say George Seifert was a great Coach since he won a Super Bowl with the 49's and never had a record in his 8 yrs worse then 10-6?? Or doesn't that count with him?? The only people I kill on a regular basis is Martin and Hermie!! Hey don't let facts or the Truth get in the way when you make a point! And answer the Question on Seifert because going on your criteria you must think he's a Great Coach record wise! Forget when he went to the Panthers he was 8-8 7-9 then 1-15..Of course 124 thinks the Cats were loaded with Talent!! I could swear you were questioning ABE's toughness. I must be wrong. No need to call me a liar. More than ready to admit it if my memory left me. I was one of ABE's primary supporters and went at it with 90% of the board with very little back-up, so I am surprised that I forgot you. BTW, that was a quote from what, yesterday? You sure you haven't changed your tune at all? 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted June 21, 2005 Author Share Posted June 21, 2005 I could swear you were questioning ABE's toughness. I must be wrong. No need to call me a liar. More than ready to admit it if my memory left me. I was one of ABE's primary supporters and went at it with 90% of the board with very little back-up, so I am surprised that I forgot you. BTW, that was a quote from what, yesterday? You sure you haven't changed your tune at all? 8) It was probably me, Meddle. I wished death upon Abe many a time. And, believe me when I tell you, Savage NEVER changes his tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meddle Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 It was probably me, Meddle. I wished death upon Abe many a time. And, believe me when I tell you, Savage NEVER changes his tune. Valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Quick - Since Herm was made HC of the NYJ...name ONE other team in the NFL (with enough talent to make it) that, when things go wrong, fans/commentators/journalists curse &/or blame the coordinator(s) & not the head coach. In Miami, it was Wanstadt's fault. In Seattle, it's Holmgren's fault. In St. Louis, it's Martz's fault. In Denver, Shanahan is taking some heat. With the NYJ, it was always Cotrell's fault or Hackett's fault. And if not them, then it was Bradway's fault. Teflon Herm was always blameless. Preach on, my brutha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Quick - Since Herm was made HC of the NYJ...name ONE other team in the NFL (with enough talent to make it) that, when things go wrong, fans/commentators/journalists curse &/or blame the coordinator(s) & not the head coach. In Miami, it was Wanstadt's fault. In Seattle, it's Holmgren's fault. In St. Louis, it's Martz's fault. In Denver, Shanahan is taking some heat. With the NYJ, it was always Cotrell's fault or Hackett's fault. And if not them, then it was Bradway's fault. Teflon Herm was always blameless. Preach on, my brutha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Herm should be the coach of the Jets as long as the team keeps showing progress. Scraping the program and starting over every 2 years is a page out of "how to run a franchise into the ground" by Dan Snyder Instead, let's replace the OC, the DC, the secondary, the QB, the WR's, the OL et al every two years. We'll keep the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Herm should be the coach of the Jets as long as the team keeps showing progress. Scraping the program and starting over every 2 years is a page out of "how to run a franchise into the ground" by Dan Snyder Instead, let's replace the OC, the DC, the secondary, the QB, the WR's, the OL et al every two years. We'll keep the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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