4HCrew Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Wow, amongst the excitement, this guy is now the highest paid LB in the NFL? off a decent year in a contract year? any chance Parcells baited the Jets on to bid higher? Is this guy a true play maker and game breaker? this is Johny Abe type of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Wow, amongst the excitement, this guy is now the highest paid LB in the NFL? off a decent year in a contract year? any chance Parcells baited the Jets on to bid higher? Is this guy a true play maker and game breaker? this is Johny Abe type of money Wow. When you put it like that, it doesnt sound as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Wow, amongst the excitement, this guy is now the highest paid LB in the NFL? off a decent year in a contract year? any chance Parcells baited the Jets on to bid higher? Is this guy a true play maker and game breaker? this is Johny Abe type of money I'm not going to lie and pretend I know **** about him other then he got 20 million guaranteed got a half a sack less then Drob in his career. I saw him play when I lived in Arizona for awhile, but that was before they made him a LBer. He doesn't really seem all that special as an OLB so unless they really think he can play ILB this to me seems luje a bad signing. I have been against this from the beginning, thinking the amount he wanted was ridiculous, but now I just need to hope I was wrong and he's worth what we're stuck paying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 Just asking honest questions...never saw the guy play and curious of what is expected of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 John Abe sucks, why are people talking about him so much lately. They guy had the hiccups and sat out playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 other than him sucking which he did the guy could disrupt a game... 3 sack games, qbs running for their lives etc. And Pace's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan220 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Wow, amongst the excitement, this guy is now the highest paid LB in the NFL? off a decent year in a contract year? any chance Parcells baited the Jets on to bid higher? Is this guy a true play maker and game breaker? this is Johny Abe type of money and i read somewhere that he had off the field problems a couple of years ago i gotta look for that story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 John Abe sucks, why are people talking about him so much lately. They guy had the hiccups and sat out playoff games. He didn't suck he unlimited talent with zero heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitony Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I have been following Calvin Pace for a while, he went to one of my rival HS in North Carolina (Charlotte Latin) and I got to watch him in HS and then went to Wake Forrest and I attended Elon University (only about 20 miles away) the guy is a stud (when played the right way) He has fluid hips and sheds blockers nice. He is better at going forward than he is in coverage, but the 3-4 is ideal for him, he has the size, strength, and agility to play the pass rush specialist in the 3-4. Parcells is the best at finding that type of player and if he wanted Pace badly than I cant blame the FO for making sure he is in Green and White come next season. Had an injury after a car accident in Arz and didnt play a lot his second year. but when they switched to the 3-4 they went back to Pace and he showed up. I think he will be worth the money, but lets face it we went 4-12 and need to overpay good players to come here. Hopefully after next season we wont have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 I am not opposed to overpaying good players to come here..especially when you have a hard nosed coach like Mangini...the question remains is this guy a play maker because he is sure being paid like one. Does the money match the talent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 We didn't overpay really, salary cap is huge right now and it's probably bonuses that won't matter to us. You don't get anything for being under the salary cap, usually you need talent and you should be right up at the cap every year, and just cut players. We inherited an absolute salary cap mess from Herm right? Well after only one season that entire mess was gone, and that season we had gone 10-6 with a WC spot. We spent last season just putting ourselves ridiculously under the cap to make this run. If we screw up? We'll just repeat this process again, but I just don't believe these are terrible signings at all. The contracts are going to GO UP, we're the ones that are setting the market right now, rather than waiting for someone else to set it and then overpaying by a lot. The contracts ALWAYS get higher over time, ALWAYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I am not opposed to overpaying good players to come here..especially when you have a hard nosed coach like Mangini...the question remains is this guy a play maker because he is sure being paid like one. Does the money match the talent... That's the key question. Based on what he has accomplished , no we overpaid. We are paying for potential. I'll tell you this though , with all these changes I wish the season would start next week. I'm anxious to see what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 We didn't overpay really, salary cap is huge right now and it's probably bonuses that won't matter to us. You don't get anything for being under the salary cap, usually you need talent and you should be right up at the cap every year, and just cut players. We inherited an absolute salary cap mess from Herm right? Well after only one season that entire mess was gone, and that season we had gone 10-6 with a WC spot. We spent last season just putting ourselves ridiculously under the cap to make this run. If we screw up? We'll just repeat this process again, but I just don't believe these are terrible signings at all. The contracts are going to GO UP, we're the ones that are setting the market right now, rather than waiting for someone else to set it and then overpaying by a lot. The contracts ALWAYS get higher over time, ALWAYS. Yeah...if he performs like we all hope he will, by the time the contract is up it'll be a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 I wish I could hear what the GMs behind the scenes think about this move..people that actually know the type of player this is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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