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the funny thing about a bills troll is nobody in the division cares about them. they have no rival because they are irrelevant

the funny thing about a bills troll on a jets board is jets fans troll the jets harder than anyone else, lol

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Apparently several of Jets Nation live in alternative universes where crappy QBs who can't throw the football well miraculously turn into HBs or ST aces. Right.

Tebow is a good leader. Tebow is a good athlete. He's NOT a good QB, and he's NOT likely to develop into some kind of jack-of-all-trades offensive/ST player. This ain't HS and it ain't 1910 ... pro football players are specialists.

Y'all enjoy your delusions about Tebow Superman while you can (ie, before games actually start), especially the resident Tebots who like to think that what Timmy did in HS is relevant to his NFL future.

You had better hope the living fossil Ralph Wilson's health care advance directives allows for feeding tubes and a respirator cause when he drops dead the Buffablow Bills will be in LA before he is even cold. But dont despair Putski, the the Argos are still there for ya.

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Fitzpatrick's contract is decent money for a starting QB, and its guaranteed money is front-loaded which means that the Bills can part company with Fitz whenever without taking much of a cap hit. Contrast with the Jets who are stuck with Sanchez and Holmes because it would cost them too big a cap hit to send either one packing. It's why both are still on the team when most organizations would have sent Holmes packing after his sh*t last season.

Where are the Bills going exactly?

Ryan Fitzpatrick was playing well and had the Bills at 4-2 so they get all excited because it's been so long that they felt what it was like to be winning and they give him a $59 mil contract. he went 1-7 after the contract. Now you're talking about it being front loaded etc. How about just letting him play the way he was and having a winner? That's what a bad franchise does. They act on impulse and sign a scrub after he won 4 games out of 6.

The holmes thing, I will agree with you on. I have no love for him and will say again... that's what bad franchises do. They sign a guy for more than he's worth because they are scared to lose him. That's the Jets.

But to compare Sanchez and Fitz is not a realistic comparison imo and there was no panic with his signing.The guy has been 9-7, 11-5, and 8-8 and went to two AFC championship games and beat Manning,(in his last game ever as a Colt) and Brady in their own houses in consecutive weeks in the playoffs. Fitz has been nowhere. Sure, say it's the Defense etc for Sanchez, but it's irrelevant. He played well in all of his playoff wins. All 4 of them . FItz grew a beard and Buffalo went nuts wearing fake beards. lol

Listen, I sincerely hope Buffalo does not move cities. All jokes and fan BS aside, I am a purest and my heart would break for you if they left. I would hate to lose my team (even though I live in S fl) But I have read more than one story with that being the topic. Either Toronto or LA or whatever but it seems to me that when Ralph Wilson passes away, the Bills are gone. I've heard it too much for it to be a non story. You know the old saying, Where there's smoke there's fire.

Sorry bud. here's one of the many articles.

http://thepigskindoctors.com/2011/05/goodell-hints-to-buffalo-bills-franchise-moving-possibly-to-canada/

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But to compare Sanchez and Fitz is not a realistic comparison imo and there was no panic with his signing.The guy has been 9-7, 11-5, and 8-8 and went to two AFC championship games and beat Manning,(in his last game ever as a Colt) and Brady in their own houses in consecutive weeks in the playoffs. Fitz has been nowhere. Sure, say it's the Defense etc for Sanchez, but it's irrelevant. He played well in all of his playoff wins. All 4 of them .

I'm good with that logic, but I wonder why it never seems to apply equally to Tebow?

He came in as a backup, cold off the bench both seasons.

He has gone 1-2 for a 3-10 team as an unsupported rookie.

Then he went 7-4 + 1-1 as an unsupported 2nd year for a 1-4 team that had just traded away their Top 2 WR's from 2010.

Without their 1st Rnd RB (injured out) he made them the #1 rushing team in the NFL.

He set NFL Passing records in his 15th start, 1st Playoff game against the #1 Defense in the NFL.

And yet still people can ignore all of his stats and the terrible circumstances that he was under while they dismiss a 9-7 QB on a 4-14 team.

I'm still wondering where all of the 'personal' hate and the professional disrespect is coming from,,,, and why?

Just like people say that all of Tebow's positive stats don't mean a thing, but then they claim that the pass completion percentage (another stat) means everything, even though it's way less important than the TD to T-O Ratio or the W/L record!

Plus Tebow beat Sanchez last season helping the Jets miss the playoff, while he took the crappy donkeys to the playoffs and beat Pittsburg and Big Ben.

Still looking for a little consistency..... :winking0001:

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Consistancy of what exactly? You want people who believe in Sanchez to believe in Tebow as well ? I don;t know if you'll ever find what you're looking for in all honesty. Me? I like the whole Tebow thing and wouldn't upset at all for Tebow to take the reigns if Sanchez were to fail. Thing is, I watched what happened the next week when Tebow could do nothing against the Pats mediocre D while Brady shredded the Broncos. Keeping up with Brady is something I'm not so sure Tebow ball will ever be able to do. Sanchez has done it more than once.

Just my opinion.

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Consistancy of what exactly? You want people who believe in Sanchez to believe in Tebow as well ? I don;t know if you'll ever find what you're looking for in all honesty. Me? I like the whole Tebow thing and wouldn't upset at all for Tebow to take the reigns if Sanchez were to fail. Thing is, I watched what happened the next week when Tebow could do nothing against the Pats mediocre D while Brady shredded the Broncos. Keeping up with Brady is something I'm not so sure Tebow ball will ever be able to do. Sanchez has done it more than once.

Just my opinion.

Consistancy in QB evaluations, going by the actual on the field of play facts/stats, that's what.

My point is that you don't have to hate or disrespect Tebow as a winning and record setting NFL QB to support Sanchez as the Jet's 2012 starting QB.

I don''t hate on or diss on Mark just because I like Tebow, nor do I demand or even suggest that Tim should be the 2012 starter.

You're saying that Tim can't beat a certain team iyo, (the Pats) but Mark can.

While Tebow has already beat the Mark/Jets.

Now that certainly follows the usual sterling 'logic' concerning Tebow's QB abilities....

Everyone is certainly welcome to their own 'opinions,' no matter if they are senseless or not. :wild:

PS

Just like all of the donkey's wins we due to the great coaching and the brand new playbook, plus the defense (4-14 with 7-8 year Orton),

but all of the losses were due to 9-7 unsupported Tebow.... :animal0029:

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Consistancy in QB evaluations, going by the actual on the field of play facts/stats, that's what.

My point is that you don't have to hate or disrespect Tebow as a winning and record setting NFL QB to support Sanchez as the Jet's 2012 starting QB.

I don''t hate on or diss on Mark just because I like Tebow, nor do I demand or even suggest that Tim should be the 2012 starter.

You're saying that Tim can't beat a certain team iyo, (the Pats) but Mark can.

While Tebow has already beat the Mark/Jets.

Now that certainly follows the usual sterling 'logic' concerning Tebow's QB abilities....

Everyone is certainly welcome to their own 'opinions,' no matter if they are senseless or not. :wild:

PS

Just like all of the donkey's wins we due to the great coaching and the brand new playbook, plus the defense (4-14 with 7-8 year Orton),

but all of the losses were due to 9-7 unsupported Tebow.... :animal0029:

welp... First off I was originally comparing Sanchesz to Fitzgerald but that's ok. I am saying that Sanchez can beat the PAts because he has and that Tebow can't because he hasn't. That's the measuring stick IMO. I don't get into the stuff like The Jets beat the Pats and the Pats beats the Steelers so that means the Jets are better than the Steelers type of analyisis. It's simply not that easy nor is it a correct logic. There are all sorts of varibables that come into play.

I am not down on Tebow and don't know why you started this conversation with me in all honesty. I'm not agaisnt the conversation, but don't know where it came from. I beieve Sanchez has gotten a little bit of a bum deal with his ever changing WR core as well as Schotty being a moron. I look forward to seeing what he can do and also believe Tebow coming here will be a good thing for him. I hope they are both on the field at the same time. That would make me happiest.

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