Jets Winners & Losers

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Jets winners & losers: Idzik and the QB he drafted

By Brian Costello

December 2, 2013 | 2:10pm

 

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Photo: Bill Kostroun

 

The Jets got embarrassed again Sunday, falling 23-3 to the mediocre Dolphins at MetLife Stadium. Here are the Jets winners (hard to find) and losers (too many to choose from) from Sunday’s game:

Winners

 

CHRIS IVORY: On an offense where no one seems to be doing their job, Ivory consistently runs hard and breaks tackles. His 32-yard run was the Jets’ longest play of the game. It is amazing to watch the pile move when Ivory runs into it and keeps his legs moving. He was a nice pickup by GM John Idzik, one of the only ones, but we’ll get to that. Ivory ran for 61 yards and averaged 5.1 yards per carry Sunday.

 

MARK SANCHEZ: Sanchez has not looked this good in years. Sure, he threw a ton of interceptions, but he also could find the end zone. The Jets season would look much different had Sanchez not been injured in the preseason when Rex Ryan decided to chase the Snoopy Trophy.

 

TONY SPARANO: Maybe last year wasn’t his fault after all.

 

Losers

 

GENO SMITH: One of the knocks on Smith I heard around the NFL Draft was he buckled when times got tough. He did not show a lot of fight during times of adversity at West Virginia. That scouting report looks accurate right now. Smith has gone into a shell and looks like he has zero confidence on the field. He’s now missing wide open receivers by 10 yards. Smith needs to sit and watch for a few weeks and maybe he’ll regain some confidence.

 

REX RYAN: This is not all Ryan’s fault, but he’s the one who will have to deal with the consequences. I now think there is a pretty good chance Ryan will be fired at the end of the season. The offense is performing at a comical level. Ryan never has figured out how to get his defensive passion to translate to the offense. He’s tried many different ways, but there remains a huge disconnect between him and that side of the ball. In the end, I think that dooms him.

 

JOHN IDZIK: The GM cannot escape blame here. He put together a team with such little talent on offense that it is amazing the Jets have won five games. Two of his top three draft picks were benched Sunday in Smith and Dee Milliner. The secondary looks terrible and the quarterback situation is hopeless. Worst of all, he shows no accountability for his decisions by ducking the media, and in turn, the Jets’ fans.

 

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Matt Simms: 'Geno's the man'

 

December, 2, 2013

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By Matt Ehalt | ESPNNewYork.com

 

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- As he waited Sunday night to find out whether he had replaced Geno Smith as the New York Jets starting quarterback, backup Matt Simms was anxious.

 

Earlier that day, Simms played the entire second half in relief of Smith in the Jets' 23-3 loss to the Miami Dolphins. There was a chance he could make his first career start this upcoming Sunday against the Oakland Raiders.

 

 

That first start will have to come at another time, though. The Jets decided to keep the beleaguered Smith as their starter, sending Simms back to the sideline at least for the time being.

 

 

"Obviously when you get out there on the field and you get a little taste of the real action, you just want more of it," Simms said. "Nonetheless Geno's the man and I'm going to support him and prepare like I have been, and if my number is called again, I'll go out there and play as hard as I can again."

 

 

Simms had played twice prior to Sunday, both times coming in blowout losses when the Jets pulled Smith late in the game. Sunday, with the Jets down 6-0 at the half and failing to get anything going offensively, the switch was made and Simms commanded the offense for the entire second half.

 

 

The offense put up its only points under Simms, but it wasn't enough as Miami rolled to a win. Simms finished 9-of-18 for 79 yards and threw an interception, which came on a 4th-and-18 play with less than four minutes remaining. The offense did seem to function better Sunday with Simms at the helm.

 

 

Simms believed he did some things well in his playing time, including his communication with the offense and his command of the unit, as well as making sound decisions. His father, former New York Giants quarterback Phil Simms, told him he was pleased he was able to obtain that experience.

 

 

 

 

 

"He was pleased I didn't make it worse," Simms said. "You guys laugh, but the first thing a quarterback needs to do is make sure that you don't lose the game. At the same time, we needed to be more aggressive and make more plays offensively. That's just something I'll have to get better at."

 

With Smith back as the starter for at least another week, Simms will once again be in his backup role, while David Garrard will be the team's No. 3 quarterback. Simms said he's not worried that the team might turn to the veteran ahead of him moving forward, pointing out how he's been the backup quarterback the entire time Garrard as been here, as well as Brady Quinn before him.

He even joked that Sunday's performance ensured he's still worthy of being the backup.

 

"I did enough to solidify that I'm still the two. At least I didn't play myself out of my job. That's the key," Simms said with a laugh. "I get to stay around and play football for one more week and considering the strides that I've made this year that's good enough for right now."

[neckdemon]

john idzik gets at least 3 years to put a team together

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Jets' Josh Cribbs has shoulder injury that is 'pretty serious,' says Rex Ryan

 

 

Michael J. Fensom/The Star-Ledger By Michael J. Fensom/The Star-Ledger

 

 

on December 02, 2013 at 5:44 PM, updated December 02, 2013 at 6:40 PM

 

The Jets may be bracing to lose Josh Cribbs for the remaining four games of the regular season. Rex Ryan said Monday that the wide receiver and kick return specialist's shoulder injury is "pretty bad." The Jets coach said more information on Cribbs' condition will come later in the week.

 

 

Cribbs injured his right shoulder Sunday while making a tackle on Marcus Thigpen as the Miami Dolphins running back returned a punt during the second quarter of the Jets' 23-3 loss. Cribbs tripped Thigpen with his arm, flexed it as he walked to the sideline and shortly after exited the field to the Jets locker room. Cribbs, 30, left MetLife Stadium with his right arm in a sling.

 

 

"Right now," Ryan said, "I think it's pretty serious."

 

 

Cribbs has boosted the Jets' kick return teams since signing on Oct. 15. He is averaging 12 yards per punt return and 24.5 yards, with a long of 42, on kickoff returns. Cribbs also serves as the point man of the Jets' Wildcat formation on offense, taking shotgun snaps and either running or throwing out of the set.

 

 

Kyle Wilson fielded punts after Cribbs left Sunday, though Jeremy Kerley could return to the role if healthy enough to play this weekend against the Oakland Raiders.

 

 

Antonio Cromartie returned four kickoffs Sunday for 126 yards, including a long of 41, though Ryan said he is reluctant to expose the Jets' top cornerback to such a pounding on special teams.

 

 

"We'll take a look at our options," Ryan said. "Certainly Cro did a tremendous job out there but he's our best corner."

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MARK SANCHEZ: Sanchez has not looked this good in years. Sure, he threw a ton of interceptions, but he also could find the end zone. The Jets season would look much different had Sanchez not been injured in the preseason when Rex Ryan decided to chase the Snoopy Trophy.

TONY SPARANO: Maybe last year wasn’t his fault after all.

sweet living **** you have got to be kidding me

 

JOHN IDZIK: The GM cannot escape blame here. He put together a team with such little talent on offense that it is amazing the Jets have won five games. Two of his top three draft picks were benched Sunday in Smith and Dee Milliner. The secondary looks terrible and the quarterback situation is hopeless. Worst of all, he shows no accountability for his decisions by ducking the media, and in turn, the Jets’ fans.

Get ****ed with a snow shovel.

[stoicsentry]

A lot of people were ripping Ivory not too long ago. He's been an absolute MONSTER the past few games. No passing game, and he still runs.

 

Worst of all, he shows no accountability for his decisions by ducking the media,

Eff the media. GTFO of here with that ****.

[T0mShane]

You wonder if Brian Costello gave even the slightest thought to hanging himself right before hitting "SEND" on that article.

[dbatesman]

Costello may yet top Mehta and Cimini for Troll of the Year. Bra-vo.

[T0mShane]

Costello may yet top Mehta and Cimini for Troll of the Year. Bra-vo.

Mehta locked it up when he went after the fans about their mean tweets or something.

[dbatesman]

Mehta locked it up when he went after the fans about their mean tweets or something.

 

Oh, man. That was a thing.

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Greenberg: Post-Miami Quarterback Questions

 

Jay Greenberg

Latest "In My Opinion"

 

 

As the ball — and the quarterbacks — turn over:

 

Best Decision, Even If It Didn’t Work: Benching Geno Smith at the half. After then-rookie Eli Manning hit rock bottom in 2004 with a 4-for-18, zero-rating debacle in Baltimore, he bounced back the next week to throw for two touchdowns and a 103 rating, almost beating 15-1 Pittsburgh. After consecutive weeks of ratings of 10.1, 22.3 and 8.3 for Smith, this wasn’t an act of impatience but of mercy. At some point a struggling player has to begin to flash some justification for the confidence a coach is showing in him.

 

Best Reason for This Best Decision: The team. Though the Jets have never announced this as a rebuilding year, every indication is that first-year GM John Idzik is taking a long-term approach. But even the few Jets who will be here in 2015 weren’t playing for 2015 on Sunday. Players have to feel their coach is giving them a chance to win.

 

Worst Reason Either to Have Stuck with Smith or to Put Him Back In Next Week Against Oakland: If you pull the young quarterback you're trying to develop, it’s hard to go back to him. Who says?

 

Best Reason You Don’t Have to Go Back to Smith Next Week: David Garrard. He has not taken a snap for 2½ years — yikes! But if he is healthy enough to play, what other reason is there for him to be in Florham Park?

 

Next Best Reason You Don’t Have to Go Back to Smith Next Week: His confidence is shot. He needs time to watch and clear his head.

 

Even Better Reason You Don’t Have to Go Back to Smith Next Week: The Jets likely are going to be drafting another quarterback in April with a top-10, possibly even top-five, pick, who should have to earn his way onto the field in his rookie year, not gain a No. 1 spot by default, as did Smith. If Rex Ryan and Marty Mornhinweg waited through this many bad weeks by Smith to give Matt Simms a shot, obviously they don’t feel he is providing much competition.

 

Biggest Waste of Time: Wondering what might have been had Rex Ryan not exposed Mark Sanchez to harm in the exhibition game against the Giants. Did you watch Sanchez commit multitudes of the same mistakes in his fourth year that Smith is making in his first? When you're 5-7, you look ahead, not backward. That's a lot of useful cap room the Jets can gain by cutting Sanchez before next season.

 

Best Jet Sunday: Chris Ivory earned every one of his 61 yards, including the 32-yarder he broke by reversing out of the pack.

Scariest Thought: The Jets had three picks in the top 39 in April and two of them — Smith and Dee Milliner — were benched Sunday, Milliner for the third time.

 

Biggest Mystery: Kellen Winslow has six receptions in three games since his return from a PED suspension. He had 17, including two touchdowns, in five previous games. On Sunday he produced the only first down of the first half until its final minute.

Best Special Teams Play: Darrin Walls nailed Marcus Thigpen immediately after he caught a Ryan Quigley punt from the end zone, salvaging field position with 1:35 left in the half.

 

Worst Special Teams Play: On a previous Quigley punt, Thigpen split the middle for 25 yards and the Jets were penalized for an illegal formation besides.

 

Best Reason to Still Take Heart: Dolphins twice went for it on fourth-and-1 in the first half, and didn’t run either time. That's what they — and the NFL — think of the Jets’ young rushing defense. The secondary is not yet up to snuff, but defenses are built from front to back.

 

Worst Play: Pro Bowler Mike Wallace ran through Milliner’s grasp for the final touchdown and the rookie corner got a talking-to from Rex Ryan and no more snaps thereafter. But the game already was over. Down, 6-0, the Jets had picked up two first downs on Simms’ second series when Bilal Powell apparently believed he was carrying out a fake instead of a handoff. Ball went to the ground, Miami recovered and when Antonio Cromartie and Demario Davis got beat and Ed Reed provided no late help, Brian Hartline ran in a 31-yard TD pass from Ryan Tannehill to make it 13-0.

 

Most Damning Stat: The Jets gave up four sacks in just 28 passing attempts and had four rushing first downs against the NFL's 26th-ranked team against the run. The Jets' season is sealed in the box their opponents pack due to lack of respect for the passing game.

[T0mShane]

Greenberg: Post-Miami Quarterback Questions

Jay Greenberg

Latest "In My Opinion"

As the ball — and the quarterbacks — turn over:

Best Decision, Even If It Didn’t Work: Benching Geno Smith at the half. After then-rookie Eli Manning hit rock bottom in 2004 with a 4-for-18, zero-rating debacle in Baltimore, he bounced back the next week to throw for two touchdowns and a 103 rating, almost beating 15-1 Pittsburgh. After consecutive weeks of ratings of 10.1, 22.3 and 8.3 for Smith, this wasn’t an act of impatience but of mercy. At some point a struggling player has to begin to flash some justification for the confidence a coach is showing in him.

Best Reason for This Best Decision: The team. Though the Jets have never announced this as a rebuilding year, every indication is that first-year GM John Idzik is taking a long-term approach. But even the few Jets who will be here in 2015 weren’t playing for 2015 on Sunday. Players have to feel their coach is giving them a chance to win.

Worst Reason Either to Have Stuck with Smith or to Put Him Back In Next Week Against Oakland: If you pull the young quarterback you're trying to develop, it’s hard to go back to him. Who says?

Best Reason You Don’t Have to Go Back to Smith Next Week: David Garrard. He has not taken a snap for 2½ years — yikes! But if he is healthy enough to play, what other reason is there for him to be in Florham Park?

Next Best Reason You Don’t Have to Go Back to Smith Next Week: His confidence is shot. He needs time to watch and clear his head.

Even Better Reason You Don’t Have to Go Back to Smith Next Week: The Jets likely are going to be drafting another quarterback in April with a top-10, possibly even top-five, pick, who should have to earn his way onto the field in his rookie year, not gain a No. 1 spot by default, as did Smith. If Rex Ryan and Marty Mornhinweg waited through this many bad weeks by Smith to give Matt Simms a shot, obviously they don’t feel he is providing much competition.

Biggest Waste of Time: Wondering what might have been had Rex Ryan not exposed Mark Sanchez to harm in the exhibition game against the Giants. Did you watch Sanchez commit multitudes of the same mistakes in his fourth year that Smith is making in his first? When you're 5-7, you look ahead, not backward. That's a lot of useful cap room the Jets can gain by cutting Sanchez before next season.

Best Jet Sunday: Chris Ivory earned every one of his 61 yards, including the 32-yarder he broke by reversing out of the pack.

Scariest Thought: The Jets had three picks in the top 39 in April and two of them — Smith and Dee Milliner — were benched Sunday, Milliner for the third time.

Biggest Mystery: Kellen Winslow has six receptions in three games since his return from a PED suspension. He had 17, including two touchdowns, in five previous games. On Sunday he produced the only first down of the first half until its final minute.

Best Special Teams Play: Darrin Walls nailed Marcus Thigpen immediately after he caught a Ryan Quigley punt from the end zone, salvaging field position with 1:35 left in the half.

Worst Special Teams Play: On a previous Quigley punt, Thigpen split the middle for 25 yards and the Jets were penalized for an illegal formation besides.

Best Reason to Still Take Heart: Dolphins twice went for it on fourth-and-1 in the first half, and didn’t run either time. That's what they — and the NFL — think of the Jets’ young rushing defense. The secondary is not yet up to snuff, but defenses are built from front to back.

Worst Play: Pro Bowler Mike Wallace ran through Milliner’s grasp for the final touchdown and the rookie corner got a talking-to from Rex Ryan and no more snaps thereafter. But the game already was over. Down, 6-0, the Jets had picked up two first downs on Simms’ second series when Bilal Powell apparently believed he was carrying out a fake instead of a handoff. Ball went to the ground, Miami recovered and when Antonio Cromartie and Demario Davis got beat and Ed Reed provided no late help, Brian Hartline ran in a 31-yard TD pass from Ryan Tannehill to make it 13-0.

Most Damning Stat: The Jets gave up four sacks in just 28 passing attempts and had four rushing first downs against the NFL's 26th-ranked team against the run. The Jets' season is sealed in the box their opponents pack due to lack of respect for the passing game.

JOURNALISM

[jorge o8]

draft playmakers!!!!

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Great piece of writing- not.

Idzik should be out have daily press conferences like all GM's do right?

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Jets' Josh Cribbs has shoulder injury that is 'pretty serious,' says Rex Ryan

 

 

Michael J. Fensom/The Star-Ledger By Michael J. Fensom/The Star-Ledger

 

 

on December 02, 2013 at 5:44 PM, updated December 02, 2013 at 6:40 PM

 

The Jets may be bracing to lose Josh Cribbs for the remaining four games of the regular season. Rex Ryan said Monday that the wide receiver and kick return specialist's shoulder injury is "pretty bad." The Jets coach said more information on Cribbs' condition will come later in the week.

 

 

Cribbs injured his right shoulder Sunday while making a tackle on Marcus Thigpen as the Miami Dolphins running back returned a punt during the second quarter of the Jets' 23-3 loss. Cribbs tripped Thigpen with his arm, flexed it as he walked to the sideline and shortly after exited the field to the Jets locker room. Cribbs, 30, left MetLife Stadium with his right arm in a sling.

 

 

"Right now," Ryan said, "I think it's pretty serious."

 

 

Cribbs has boosted the Jets' kick return teams since signing on Oct. 15. He is averaging 12 yards per punt return and 24.5 yards, with a long of 42, on kickoff returns. Cribbs also serves as the point man of the Jets' Wildcat formation on offense, taking shotgun snaps and either running or throwing out of the set.

 

 

Kyle Wilson fielded punts after Cribbs left Sunday, though Jeremy Kerley could return to the role if healthy enough to play this weekend against the Oakland Raiders.

 

 

Antonio Cromartie returned four kickoffs Sunday for 126 yards, including a long of 41, though Ryan said he is reluctant to expose the Jets' top cornerback to such a pounding on special teams.

 

 

"We'll take a look at our options," Ryan said. "Certainly Cro did a tremendous job out there but he's our best corner."

 

Crap

 

There goes the Jets best QB

[dbatesman]

JOHN IDZIK: The GM cannot escape blame here. He put together a team with such little talent on offense that it is amazing the Jets have won five games. Two of his top three draft picks were benched Sunday in Smith and Dee Milliner. The secondary looks terrible and the quarterback situation is hopeless. Worst of all, he shows no accountability for his decisions by ducking the media, and in turn, the Jets’ fans.

I'm not usually one to gnash my teeth about the media, but this is still pissing me off. It's a dumpy dipsh*t stomping his feet and holding his breath because Florham Park is no longer leakier than a recycled condom. Eat a fat dick, dude.