Fred Jetstone Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Spent almost all day in Starbucks reading beatnik poetry and various draft-related newspaper articles. This is from USA Today. "Virginia coach Al Groh , who coached 14 years in the NFL and was the New YORK JETS head coach before returning to the college level , thinks Ferguson's decision to return for a fourth year solidified his size in addition to helping him refine techniques....Groh believes Ferguson's lower-body strength and bend-and-twist flexibility allow him to get leverage that 350-pound players can only dream of. "It's a game of size and power, for sure" Groh says. "But when you ask a rookie what the biggest difference on the NFL level is, they all say they didn't realize how fast the game is. It's a game of speed. That's why you need linemen capable of pulling on the backside." D'Brick is only 300 pounds and by all reports, isn't going to get much bigger. So the question is, WHAT TYPE OF OFFENCE IS MANGINI GOING TO RUN? If the scheme is heavy on screens, stretch runs and other plays that need linemen to get outside the box -- then D'Brick will be the pick. If it's focused around a drop-back style QB, then D'Brick doesn't really make sense. Conclusion: If the Jets draft D'Brick, they're planning an O that suits Bollinger. If the Jets pass on D'Brick and take another 330-pound-type tackle later on, they're planning an O that suits Penny or Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinsuck Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 My conclusion is that Al Groh is a traitor who quit on our team. The man who traded Keyshawn Johnson now wants us to take Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 With Groh being the coach I think the Jets will be more at ease drafting Ferguson.. Mangini is all about his connections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman1 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Spent almost all day in Starbucks reading beatnik poetry and various draft-related newspaper articles. This is from USA Today. "Virginia coach Al Groh , who coached 14 years in the NFL and was the New YORK JETS head coach before returning to the college level , thinks Ferguson's decision to return for a fourth year solidified his size in addition to helping him refine techniques....Groh believes Ferguson's lower-body strength and bend-and-twist flexibility allow him to get leverage that 350-pound players can only dream of. "It's a game of size and power, for sure" Groh says. "But when you ask a rookie what the biggest difference on the NFL level is, they all say they didn't realize how fast the game is. It's a game of speed. That's why you need linemen capable of pulling on the backside." D'Brick is only 300 pounds and by all reports, isn't going to get much bigger. So the question is, WHAT TYPE OF OFFENCE IS MANGINI GOING TO RUN? If the scheme is heavy on screens, stretch runs and other plays that need linemen to get outside the box -- then D'Brick will be the pick. If it's focused around a drop-back style QB, then D'Brick doesn't really make sense. Conclusion: If the Jets draft D'Brick, they're planning an O that suits Bollinger. If the Jets pass on D'Brick and take another 330-pound-type tackle later on, they're planning an O that suits Penny or Ramsey. Based on comments that Jay Cutler made after the Jets worked him out I would say that we are looking for athletic linemen who can pull.Cutler said they used a lot of moving pockets and rollouts when he worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 fred, where does one even find beatnik poetry these days? thats an interesting analogy on fergy. for all the hype he's gettin he should be able to do both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Spent almost all day in Starbucks reading beatnik poetry and various draft-related newspaper articles. This is from USA Today. "Virginia coach Al Groh , who coached 14 years in the NFL and was the New YORK JETS head coach before returning to the college level , thinks Ferguson's decision to return for a fourth year solidified his size in addition to helping him refine techniques....Groh believes Ferguson's lower-body strength and bend-and-twist flexibility allow him to get leverage that 350-pound players can only dream of. "It's a game of size and power, for sure" Groh says. "But when you ask a rookie what the biggest difference on the NFL level is, they all say they didn't realize how fast the game is. It's a game of speed. That's why you need linemen capable of pulling on the backside." D'Brick is only 300 pounds and by all reports, isn't going to get much bigger. So the question is, WHAT TYPE OF OFFENCE IS MANGINI GOING TO RUN? If the scheme is heavy on screens, stretch runs and other plays that need linemen to get outside the box -- then D'Brick will be the pick. If it's focused around a drop-back style QB, then D'Brick doesn't really make sense. Conclusion: If the Jets draft D'Brick, they're planning an O that suits Bollinger. If the Jets pass on D'Brick and take another 330-pound-type tackle later on, they're planning an O that suits Penny or Ramsey. would you stop mentioning bollinger? he's freaking terrible, get over it man. i know it, you know it, and every jet fan here knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Based on comments that Jay Cutler made after the Jets worked him out I would say that we are looking for athletic linemen who can pull.Cutler said they used a lot of moving pockets and rollouts when he worked out. This is part of the reason I dont like the scenario of Jean-Gilles @ 29 or 35. He sounds attractive, but is the team looking for athletic linemen or road-graders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jetstone Posted April 26, 2006 Author Share Posted April 26, 2006 fred, where does one even find beatnik poetry these days? thats an interesting analogy on fergy. for all the hype he's gettin he should be able to do both HOWL I saw the best minds of Jet Nation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the new jersey streets at dawn looking for an angry fix, angelheaded Jet fans burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night, who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of cities contemplating Bollywood, who bared their brains to the masses under the El and saw Bollinger-like angels staggering on tenement roofs illuminated who passed through universities with radiant cool eyes hallucinating Super Bowl victories and Blake-light tragedy among the scholars of war, who were expelled from jet boards for crazy & publishing obscene odes on the windows of the skull........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajensen088 Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 My conclusion is that Al Groh is a traitor who quit on our team. The man who traded Keyshawn Johnson now wants us to take Ferguson. He did what most Jet coaches do, including Bellichek and Edwards. Saw Woody Johnson for the inept fool he is and got the heck out for a better job with a better future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 He did what most Jet coaches do, including Bellichek and Edwards. Saw Woody Johnson for the inept fool he is and got the heck out for a better job with a better future. Who will improve more record wise this year? Chiefs or Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jetstone Posted April 26, 2006 Author Share Posted April 26, 2006 Who will improve more record wise this year? Chiefs or Jets? That question should be, who will improve record-wise and who will regress record-wise, with multiple clock-management screw-ups? Hmmmm. Let me think about it a sec....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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