JonEJet Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The biggest disappointment, IMO, has been McKnight. If the Jets draft a RB early, it's hard to see how he even makes the roster. He's earned zero role on an offense desperate for big plays and, sure, he's done well returning kicks, but who doesn't under Westhoff? I am thankful you're not a Pats fan. If you're disappointed in McKnight, we'd have to pull you off the ledge with some of Belly's late round draft blunders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The biggest disappointment, IMO, has been McKnight. If the Jets draft a RB early, it's hard to see how he even makes the roster. He's earned zero role on an offense desperate for big plays and, sure, he's done well returning kicks, but who doesn't under Westhoff? Meh, I'm not sure about that. Hell, he at looks a whole lot better than Powell who seems to struggle to make it more than one yard on a carry. Frankly, I find it tough to judge him solely based on not earning a role on the offense, considering 6 years of history tells us this offense simply doesn't ever allow young RBs onto the field until they're absolutely forced to. Just like Leon and Greene before him, McKnight won't be allowed to see the field unless the guys ahead of him on the depth chart are hurt. The two times he's actually had a chance to get more than a couple of garbage time carries (Denver this year and Buffalo last year), he's actually looked pretty good. Not that I think he's anything spectacular, but could certainly earn his keep as a 4th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I am thankful you're not a Pats fan. If you're disappointed in McKnight, we'd have to pull you off the ledge with some of Belly's late round draft blunders You are obsessed with the Patriots and all things Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Meh, I'm not sure about that. Hell, he at looks a whole lot better than Powell who seems to struggle to make it more than one yard on a carry. Frankly, I find it tough to judge him solely based on not earning a role on the offense, considering 6 years of history tells us this offense simply doesn't ever allow young RBs onto the field until they're absolutely forced to. Just like Leon and Greene before him, McKnight won't be allowed to see the field unless the guys ahead of him on the depth chart are hurt. The two times he's actually had a chance to get more than a couple of garbage time carries (Denver this year and Buffalo last year), he's actually looked pretty good. Not that I think he's anything spectacular, but could certainly earn his keep as a 4th rounder. Good point. Hopefully, it's just the pass pro thing holding him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 As far as the other picks from last year, I don't really know how you could argue against Ducasse being a bust. The guy is a dozen different kinds of awful. Is there a chance he turns it around? I guess so (although I wouldn't bet on it) but that doesn't change what he is right now, and that's pure crappola. On the flip side, trying to trash the Wilson pick is kind of ridiculous at this point. The guy has had a fantastic year for this team and the re-signing of Cromartie proves nothing but Rex's hard-on for CBs and that Wilson had a disappointing rookie year. A nickelback is an important player on any team, but in this defense the guy is even that much more important, and Wilson's been great there. Frankly, Wilson would probably be starting over Cromartie by now if not for the fact that Cro would get destroyed trying to play the nickel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Good point. Hopefully, it's just the pass pro thing holding him back. That's definitely a legit point, as that's obviously still an issue. While he has looked a little better this year in that regard on the few chances he's had, he was still getting pulled off the field some in the Denver game for Powell in blocking situations (which his blocking in that game is probably the most impressive thing I've seen out of the kid yet). If he can show some real improvement in that regard through the offseason I'm guessing he probably will step into LT's role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 He was the 61st overall pick, a LATE 2nd rounder...I would say closer to a high 3rd rounder. You still have yet to answer the question who you would have drafted there? You seem to be one of those guys. You know, one of those draft revisionists. Don't be one of those guys http://www.pro-footb.../2010/draft.htm He was a 2nd round pick, and a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 He was a 2nd round pick, and a bad one. Matt Slauson was a good 6th rounder DOes that make up for it in your view? Drafts are hit and miss....Tanny has hit more than he has missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Matt Slauson was a good 6th rounder DOes that make up for it in your view? Drafts are hit and miss....Tanny has hit more than he has missed In my view Ducasse sucks and is a bust of a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Tanny has hit more than he has missed Which, to a Jets fan, is the ultimate prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Which, to a Jets fan, is the ultimate prize. 2nd place is better than 4th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Which, to a Jets fan, is the ultimate prize. Quick, name me a GM that has a perfect drat record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Quick, name me a GM that has a perfect drat record? Well that's a silly question, there's at least a few dozen right here on JN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Well that's a silly question, there's at least a few dozen right here on JN. Funny, they are excellent play callers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I admire the attitude that Tanny and Rex know what they want and do what it takes to get it... in the 3rd/4th/5th rounds. I could care less how many bottom of the draft picks we lose... but we need to quit trading away our 2nd and 3rd rounders. Those are critical picks. Perfect draft strategy is a balance between tanny and NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Funny, they are excellent play callers too. Rotfl. JN is a message board that consists of highly skilled posters trained in the art of Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Rotfl. JN is a message board that consists of highly skilled posters trained in the art of Football. If only the NFL script writers knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 If only the NFL script writers knew. DON'TGETME****INSTARTEDONTHE****INNFLSCRIPTWRITERS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Quick, name me a GM that has a perfect drat record? Name a GM that gets to fire his first, hand-picked head coach, hire another coach, burn through six drafts after serving as co-GM for six prior drafts which (12 drafts producing a total of two All-Pros) all the while not winning a Super Bowl at any point during that span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Name a GM that gets to fire his first, hand-picked head coach, hire another coach, burn through six drafts after serving as co-GM for six prior drafts which (12 drafts producing a total of two All-Pros) all the while not winning a Super Bowl at any point during that span. If I tell you, will you get his name on your chest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Name a GM that gets to fire his first, hand-picked head coach, hire another coach, burn through six drafts after serving as co-GM for six prior drafts which (12 drafts producing a total of two All-Pros) all the while not winning a Super Bowl at any point during that span. Ozzie Newsome Rick SMith (Houston) Gene Smith (Jags) AJ Smith (Bolts) Howie Roseman (Eagles) Jerry Angelo (Bears) Marton Mayhew (Lions) Rod Graves (Cards) Thanks for playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Ozzie Newsome Rick SMith (Houston) Gene Smith (Jags) AJ Smith (Bolts) Howie Roseman (Eagles) Jerry Angelo (Bears) Marton Mayhew (Lions) Rod Graves (Cards) Thanks for playing I stopped reading at "Ozzie Newsome," you nitwit souse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Big Tanny fan here. But had a really bad off season. And I think I might be the minority here on this, but not happy giving Holmes and Cro such huge deals. Holmes has had exactly one season as a premiere receiver. And now that season is looking like an outlier. He is a very solid #2, so we are vastly overpaying him. Don't know where to begin with Cromartie. Seems the story here is he looks bad because he plays opposite of the great Revis. But I believe that is actually what is giving him a pass. He is being paid to be a top flight, shutdown corner. Something he's obviously not. But since he plays second fiddle to Revis, he gets a break. Well actually he's just a number 2 corner so it doesn't matter that he's not that great or so I guess people must be thinking. But we are paying him to be a number 1. That all comes back to Tanny investing so much in Aso, who we didn't need, and getting forced into Cro. Who I don't even think they really wanted back. Also missing on a workout wonder in Ducasse so close after missing on one of the drafts all-time work out wonder (Gholston) busts is unexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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