AVM Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Sounds too powerful and oddly specific. What if the person is at L-3 or L-1? You're ****ed? Hardly. It's two parts -- 1 time investigation for a person under specific terms (L-2) and I have the option to clear the train after I hear the alignment. Just think about it -- I obviously have at least half of that power (the train was cleared). If it's a scum power it's way overpowered as I could force a no-lynch, do all sorts of things honestly aside from clearing Hess on D2, 24 hours from deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishy Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Slight town read on Leelou now. Scum read on you now. Btw, didn't mean to neg-rep you on this one, slip of the finger. It did bring lulz though, can't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Even though I tend to believe AVM for now, I'm somewhat tempted to lynch one of the 2. We're 2 for 1 right now, so we could afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 And IDK what you're getting at with L-3, though L-1 is a good point. I'm not sure and I hadn't asked but considering we as a general rule stop at L-2 for reveals here it's not too difficult just requires I be around at L-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Leelou is 3rd party. Prob the SK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishy Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Even though I tend to believe AVM for now, I'm somewhat tempted to lynch one of the 2. We're 2 for 1 right now, so we could afford it. Can't put any rationale behind it other than my gut, but I believe AVM. Makes me trust that the three of them are cleared. I'd rather fire into the remaining pool of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hardly. It's two parts -- 1 time investigation for a person under specific terms (L-2) and I have the option to clear the train after I hear the alignment. Just think about it -- I obviously have at least half of that power (the train was cleared). If it's a scum power it's way overpowered as I could force a no-lynch, do all sorts of things honestly aside from clearing Hess on D2, 24 hours from deadline. Clearing a train seems way more like a scum power than a town power to me. Towns only guaranteed power in every game is voting and the lynch. Manipulating that is more often for scum than town. The investigation and terms of this power could easily just be lies. All we know for sure is you have or had the power to clear a train and you chose to do it on Hess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hardly. It's two parts -- 1 time investigation for a person under specific terms (L-2) and I have the option to clear the train after I hear the alignment. Just think about it -- I obviously have at least half of that power (the train was cleared). If it's a scum power it's way overpowered as I could force a no-lynch, do all sorts of things honestly aside from clearing Hess on D2, 24 hours from deadline. Meh. Why have the "option" to clear a train if you're town? If your result is scum, there's no way you'll stop the train - same for town...no way you'd let it continue. That's why it makes no sense, and I think you're lying. Scum read on you now. Btw, didn't mean to neg-rep you on this one, slip of the finger. It did bring lulz though, can't lie. So you can't read people for sh*t, gotcha. Even though I tend to believe AVM for now, I'm somewhat tempted to lynch one of the 2. We're 2 for 1 right now, so we could afford it. 3, really - Nol claimed the same as Hess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Leelou is 3rd party. Prob the SK You can never read me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Scum: Hess, AVM, 80, Ishy/Crusher GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Catch up yet, Pac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Oh wait player already died and was mafia huh? Ok nevermind on Crusher and Ishy then They're pinging me but not as strongly as the other 3 so they're probably town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Meh. Why have the "option" to clear a train if you're town? If your result is scum, there's no way you'll stop the train - same for town...no way you'd let it continue. That's why it makes no sense, and I think you're lying. So you can't read people for sh*t, gotcha. 3, really - Nol claimed the same as Hess. Huh? You would want to clear the train if town, not clear the train if scum. How does an option not make sense lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Oh wait player already died and was mafia huh? Ok nevermind on Crusher and Ishy then They're pinging me but not as strongly as the other 3 so they're probably town :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Nolder -- riddle me this. If Hess and I are both scum, then why would he reveal BEFORE me posting or clearing his train? We'd be in a QT together, so I would have been talking to him and he'd know I was about to post. Why stop waiting then and look bad for stalling? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Nolder -- riddle me this. If Hess and I are both scum, then why would he reveal BEFORE me posting or clearing his train? We'd be in a QT together, so I would have been talking to him and he'd know I was about to post. Why stop waiting then and look bad for stalling? lol Nolder is an idiot. So was Darthe. And JiF....I, on the other hand, am super smart and as sharp as samurai sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Nolder -- riddle me this. If Hess and I are both scum, then why would he reveal BEFORE me posting or clearing his train? We'd be in a QT together, so I would have been talking to him and he'd know I was about to post. Why stop waiting then and look bad for stalling? lol Well being at L-2 can quickly turn into a lynch and your power is only useful if Lily is around to make it happen. It could be Hess claimed to stall the lynch while you guys waited for Lily to clear the train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Now let me ask you a question, why use the power now and on Hess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Nolder is an idiot. So was Darthe. And JiF....I, on the other hand, am super smart and as sharp as samurai sword. You've lost your touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 :facepalm: Basically to save me, you just outed yourself as the 3rd scum....on D2. These guys are good!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 You've lost your touch. Not true. I'm just more lucid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishy Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Basically to save me, you just outed yourself as the 3rd scum....on D2. These guys are good!!! This was my thinking too. I feel alright with AVM, you and Nol atm. I could happily kill any of the rest though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Question...Your one time view, let's say you found scum and you don't want to stop that train, would your ability to stop a further lynch be rendered useless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Catch up yet, Pac? You've actually come down from my FOS list since you've started playing. Although I don't agree with everything your saying it doesn't sound contrived to me. fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hey guys... UNDERPANTS!!!! That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hey guys... UNDERPANTS!!!! That is all. OOPS I NEGGED THIS POST HEE HEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 This was my thinking too. I feel alright with AVM, you and Nol atm. I could happily kill any of the rest though. I still feel best about Nol since we have the same role. AVM could be pulling something, which is why I think all these questions are warranted. But I'm siding with believing him since he just saved me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Well being at L-2 can quickly turn into a lynch and your power is only useful if Lily is around to make it happen. It could be Hess claimed to stall the lynch while you guys waited for Lily to clear the train. Huh? I PM Lily when the person hits L-2. I'm pretty sure she would honor the action at that moment. It's just like if a Vig were to shoot someone while a mod was away, then return and a lynch had been reached. Doesn't matter -- the Vig action was sent in first and if it effects the lynch then so be it. You're a mod, you know this. Now let me ask you a question, why use the power now and on Hess? I already explained this, though I'm not sure why I'd expect you to read it unless it's a direct response to you. Clearing a lynch is a pretty dangerous. Deadlines. Just think. This was a safe time to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Huh? I PM Lily when the person hits L-2. I'm pretty sure she would honor the action at that moment. It's just like if a Vig were to shoot someone while a mod was away, then return and a lynch had been reached. Doesn't matter -- the Vig action was sent in first and if it effects the lynch then so be it. You're a mod, you know this. I already explained this, though I'm not sure why I'd expect you to read it unless it's a direct response to you. Clearing a lynch is a pretty dangerous. Deadlines. Just think. This was a safe time to use it This cat is pure Awesome. Can't be scum. Let's kill Pac or JiF!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Question...Your one time view, let's say you found scum and you don't want to stop that train, would your ability to stop a further lynch be rendered useless? Yeah -- it's like an all in one action. I think you're asking if I got scum could I save my lynch stop for later, and the answer is no -- I PM Lily the name of someone at L-2 and I get their alignment. I then can choose to stop the lynch or not. If I do or don't, either way I use up the action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Huh? You would want to clear the train if town, not clear the train if scum. How does an option not make sense lol That's my point - the option isn't really an option. As a townie, you would never allow another townie to be lynched, just as you'd never allow a scum lynch to be stopped....assuming you are a townie, of course. That's why it doesn't add up. There is no option. And that role just doesn't seem right to me for a townie as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Yeah -- it's like an all in one action. I think you're asking if I got scum could I save my lynch stop for later, and the answer is no -- I PM Lily the name of someone at L-2 and I get their alignment. I then can choose to stop the lynch or not. If I do or don't, either way I use up the action. If you are town, you'd never have to choose....the choice would be basically 100% obvious. That is not how "option" roles work - this is why I think you're full of sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Lynch AVM now that he's "roleless" and clear 2 other people. Easy peasy. Vote: AVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hey guys... UNDERPANTS!!!! That is all. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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