Stock Report: Risers and Fallers

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Stock report: Risers and fallers

 

November, 10, 2014

NOV 10

8:00

AM ET

 

By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com

 

 

Three studs and three duds from the New York Jets' 20-13 win over the Pittsburgh Steelers:

RISERS

 

 

Jarrett

 

1. Jaiquawn Jarrett, safety: The Jets entered the game with a steak of 220 consecutive defensive plays without a takeaway. Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger entered the game without an interception in 137 straight attempts. So, of course, it made perfect sense that Jarrett, who had no interceptions in his first 38 career games, made two interceptions and recovered a fumble. And don't forget his sack. Sometimes you can't explain this stuff, but kudos to Jarrett, the catalyst for an inspired defensive performance.

 

2. Michael Vick, quarterback: He completed only 10 passes, but one was a 67-yard lightning bolt to T.J. Graham, giving the Jets a 10-0 lead. Vick made plays with his legs (ask Brice McCain, who was dusted in the open field) and he managed to hold on to the ball despite four sacks. He isn't burning up the stat sheet (328 yards in two starts), but Vick is playing the game-manager role -- no turnovers. He's 1-1 since replacing Geno Smith, making you wonder how the season might have turned out if he had been given a chance sooner.

 

3. Marcus Williams, cornerback: The undrafted rookie, in his second career start, held up reasonably well against the Roethlisberger-led passing attack. Williams is fearless, not afraid to play press coverage against top receivers. He broke up two passes, including the goal-line deflection that resulted in Jarrett's first interception. We're not suggesting a "Williams Island" moniker is in order, but let's give the kid his due.

 

FALLERS

 

1. Calvin Pryor, safety: The Jets' No. 1 pick was benched. Pryor was replaced by Jarrett in the lineup, playing only on special teams. It was curious, considering Rex Ryan indicated early in the week he expected Pryor, who didn't play much last week, to return to his usual role. After the game, though, Ryan made a cryptic comment about the importance of players showing up on time for meetings. Hmm.

 

2. Jason Babin, linebacker: He committed a costly roughing-the-passer in the second quarter, diving into Roethlisberger's legs even though the play had been blown dead because of a delay penalty on the Steelers. Babin claimed a Steelers' lineman "threw me into his quarterback. That's a big no-no by offensive line coaches. They don't teach you to do that to your quarterback." Even so, it was a bad penalty. Luckily for the Jets, it didn't result in points.

 

3. Percy Harvin, wide receiver: We're being picky here, but Harvin, coming off his breakout game, wasn't an impact player. He finished with nine touches for 56 yards -- three catches for 23 yards and six rushes for 33 yards. You can't have 11 catches every week, but on this day, he wasn't the playmaker on offense. It was Graham.

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Didn't realize Pryor was benched again

[kay_gee]

Babin seems to have at least one 15 yarder per game (I'm sure that's inaccurate, it just feels that way).

Still, I wish the Jets got a roughing the passer call. I was sitting 5 rows from the field yesterday, the Steeler defender tackled Vick out of bounds, the ref was WATCHING, and no call. The crowd was pissed. Ben gets bumped, flag. It's BS.

[joewilly12]

Jarrett and Pryor will be the starters Landry is terrible

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Babin seems to have at least one 15 yarder per game (I'm sure that's inaccurate, it just feels that way).

Still, I wish the Jets got a roughing the passer call. I was sitting 5 rows from the field yesterday, the Steeler defender tackled Vick out of bounds, the ref was WATCHING, and no call. The crowd was pissed. Ben gets bumped, flag. It's BS.

Rex talked about that in his post game presser, as the reason he told the refs FU at the end of the game.

 

He'll be getting a letter from the comish, and some fines

[Ex-Rex]

Babin seems to have at least one 15 yarder per game (I'm sure that's inaccurate, it just feels that way).

Still, I wish the Jets got a roughing the passer call. I was sitting 5 rows from the field yesterday, the Steeler defender tackled Vick out of bounds, the ref was WATCHING, and no call. The crowd was pissed. Ben gets bumped, flag. It's BS.

Geno Smith was clobbered at the knees exactly the way Ben was three weeks ago and had to come out of the game for a play, yet NO FLAG was thrown, The referees in the NFL have a definite Jets bias to them. I see it every week - and I am sure plenty of other Jets fans see it too. That's the way it is when you have a clueless HC who cannot site rules to the officials but just says "F*&k You" to them.

[Ex-Rex]

Didn't realize Pryor was benched again

That's how invisible our latest first round wonder boy has been all season.

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Jets Shock Steelers 20-13: Three Things We Learned

 

By Gladys Louise Tyler

 

November 10, 2014 7:13 am  

 

The possiblity of the New York Jets defeating Ben Roethlisberger and the Pittsburgh Steelers was a ridiculous possibility.  You know, Roethlisberger entered the game having thrown 12 touchdowns in his last two games with zero interceptions.  The Pittsburgh Steelers were on a win streak, the Jets on an epic losing streak.

 

Well, here is what we learned:

 

Jaiquawn Jarrett isn't anybody's number two

 

The New York Jets secondary was bad, really bad.  They had relinquished 20 plus touchdowns while having only one interception.  That was before this game.

 

Jaiquawn Jarrett started instead of first round pick Calvin Pryor.  It was a smart move.  Jarrett finished the game with 10 tackles, one sack, one forced fumble, and two interceptions.  Jarrett doubled the amount of interceptions the Jets had for the season in one game.  Jarrett isn't anybody's number two.  He is bonafide good.

 

Michael Vick still has a 'lil something...something to contribute

 

Vick reminded us a little bit of the Vick of old, er new.  Vick, who was sacked four times, rushed like the Vick we once knew.  He finished the game with 39 rushing yards.  And he also threw two touchdown passes with zero interceptions.

 

It wasn't vintage Vick but it was close enough.  And it was good enough to lead his team to a 20-13 victory.  That's a contribution that is a little more than something.  For a reeling Jets team, it is close to everything.

 

Rex Ryan's defense out played Dick LeBeau's defense

 

There is talk about the decline of the Steelers defense.  How about a little conversation about the domination of the Jets defense in this game?  Yes, there was Jarrett, but this was a complete defensive effort.

 

Linebacker Demario Davis led all Jets with12 tackles.  Then there was Jarrett's contribution.  And lets not forget defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson's five tackles and one forced fumble.  Stats were had among the entire Jets defense.

 

So for one week let's hear about Ryan's defense.  It was formidable against a potent offense.  Don't talk about the defense saving the day, what about it saving it's coaches job.  At least for two more weeks.

 

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Things we learned about the Jets

 

November, 10, 2014

NOV 10

12:00

PM ET

By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com

 

 

 

A few takeaways from the New York Jets' 20-13 win over the Pittsburgh Steelers:

 

 

1. The prevailing postgame thought, as usual, involves the quarterback situation. Did Rex Ryan destroy any last hopes of saving the season by waiting too long to start Michael Vick? Clearly, the Jets are better with Vick than Geno Smith, as Vick, in a roundabout way, noted after the game. Ryan's best chance to make the change came after the shutout loss to the San Diego Chargers in Week 5, when Smith missed a meeting, played poorly and was removed at halftime. Vick, too, played poorly, later admitting he wasn't prepared. You have to wonder if Ryan would've made the switch if he had seen something -- anything -- from Vick in that game. We'll never know. He stuck with Smith for three more losses, effectively killing the season.

 

 

2. Turns out that rookie safety Calvin Pryor, benched in favor of Jaiquawn Jarrett, has been late for multiple meetings this season, a source said. That probably factored into the decision to sit him down. Obviously, it turned out well for the Jets, as Jarrett played the game of his life. Pryor has a good head on his shoulders and you have to assume he'll use it as a learning experience. He didn't play a single snap on defense, meaning the only member of the 12-player draft class to see time on offense or defense was tight end Jace Amaro. Pryor and linebacker Trevor Reilly played on special teams.

 

 

3. Lost in the postgame euphoria was how the Jets lost their poise at the end. Vick was penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct, flipping the ball at William Gay in a taunting manner -- the second time he's done that. That triggered a tirade from Ryan, who must have said the magic word because he, too, was slapped with unsportsmanlike conduct. After the game, he launched an F-bomb on the field, presumably at one of the officials. If the Jets had somehow lost the game, it would've turned Ryan's hot seat into searing-hot seat, intensifying speculation of a bye-week firing. He can thank Eric Decker for fielding that onside kick.

 

 

4. Truth be told, this game should've been a blowout. The Jets had a plus-4 turnover margin, but they kept it interesting because of the penalties (nine for 75 yards), red zone issues (1-for-3) and a rare miss by Nick Folk.

 

 

5. Maybe the Jets should hire Justin Bieber to visit their opponents' Saturday night Bible study. His presence certainly didn't inspire the Steelers.

 

 

 

6. Steelers cornerback Brice McCain probably had Vick nightmares Sunday night. He got "Vicked" twice in the first quarter, once on the ground, once in the air. McCain was victimized by an ankle-breaking move in the open field ("They're still biting on the old dead-leg fakes," Vick said) and he got caught out of position on Vick's 67-yard scoring strike to T.J. Graham. Video of his missed tackle went viral. To McCain's credit, he sought out Vick after the game and shook his hand.

 

 

7. In four of the last five games, the Jets haven't been ... you know, terrible. Said Calvin Pace: "People are going to look at our record (2-8) and be like, 'The Jets suck.' But we lose games by only three to five plays determining games." They've lost four games by eight points or less, but those are the games that separate contenders from also-rans.

 

 

8. Chris Johnson, who showed flashes of his old form last week in Kansas City, was back to being a non-factor. He played only 16 snaps and had only seven carries for 23 yards. Percy Harvin (six for 33 yards) has cut into his playing time. Harvin was more effective, so it's hard to quibble with it.

[Integrity28]

Brice McCain is one of the worst defensive backs in football.

 

If Shazier and Polamalu aren't hurt, then their defense gets our offense off the field faster, and Ben gets more time to carve us up. 

[JetsFanInDenver]

Babin seems to have at least one 15 yarder per game (I'm sure that's inaccurate, it just feels that way).

Still, I wish the Jets got a roughing the passer call. I was sitting 5 rows from the field yesterday, the Steeler defender tackled Vick out of bounds, the ref was WATCHING, and no call. The crowd was pissed. Ben gets bumped, flag. It's BS.

 

It's NFL's policy of protecting the elite QB's. VIck in no Brady, Big Ben or Rodgers. So he can be abused at will. On the other hand if you even touch Brady's little pinky finger you get thrown out of the game.

[Integrity28]

Things we learned about the Jets

 

November, 10, 2014

NOV 10

12:00

PM ET

By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com

 

 

 

A few takeaways from the New York Jets' 20-13 win over the Pittsburgh Steelers:

 

 

1. The prevailing postgame thought, as usual, involves the quarterback situation. Did Rex Ryan destroy any last hopes of saving the season by waiting too long to start Michael Vick? Clearly, the Jets are better with Vick than Geno Smith, as Vick, in a roundabout way, noted after the game. Ryan's best chance to make the change came after the shutout loss to the San Diego Chargers in Week 5, when Smith missed a meeting, played poorly and was removed at halftime. Vick, too, played poorly, later admitting he wasn't prepared. You have to wonder if Ryan would've made the switch if he had seen something -- anything -- from Vick in that game. We'll never know. He stuck with Smith for three more losses, effectively killing the season.

 

 

2. Turns out that rookie safety Calvin Pryor, benched in favor of Jaiquawn Jarrett, has been late for multiple meetings this season, a source said. That probably factored into the decision to sit him down. Obviously, it turned out well for the Jets, as Jarrett played the game of his life. Pryor has a good head on his shoulders and you have to assume he'll use it as a learning experience. He didn't play a single snap on defense, meaning the only member of the 12-player draft class to see time on offense or defense was tight end Jace Amaro. Pryor and linebacker Trevor Reilly played on special teams.

 

 

3. Lost in the postgame euphoria was how the Jets lost their poise at the end. Vick was penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct, flipping the ball at William Gay in a taunting manner -- the second time he's done that. That triggered a tirade from Ryan, who must have said the magic word because he, too, was slapped with unsportsmanlike conduct. After the game, he launched an F-bomb on the field, presumably at one of the officials. If the Jets had somehow lost the game, it would've turned Ryan's hot seat into searing-hot seat, intensifying speculation of a bye-week firing. He can thank Eric Decker for fielding that onside kick.

 

 

4. Truth be told, this game should've been a blowout. The Jets had a plus-4 turnover margin, but they kept it interesting because of the penalties (nine for 75 yards), red zone issues (1-for-3) and a rare miss by Nick Folk.

 

 

5. Maybe the Jets should hire Justin Bieber to visit their opponents' Saturday night Bible study. His presence certainly didn't inspire the Steelers.

 

 

 

6. Steelers cornerback Brice McCain probably had Vick nightmares Sunday night. He got "Vicked" twice in the first quarter, once on the ground, once in the air. McCain was victimized by an ankle-breaking move in the open field ("They're still biting on the old dead-leg fakes," Vick said) and he got caught out of position on Vick's 67-yard scoring strike to T.J. Graham. Video of his missed tackle went viral. To McCain's credit, he sought out Vick after the game and shook his hand.

 

 

7. In four of the last five games, the Jets haven't been ... you know, terrible. Said Calvin Pace: "People are going to look at our record (2-8) and be like, 'The Jets suck.' But we lose games by only three to five plays determining games." They've lost four games by eight points or less, but those are the games that separate contenders from also-rans.

 

 

8. Chris Johnson, who showed flashes of his old form last week in Kansas City, was back to being a non-factor. He played only 16 snaps and had only seven carries for 23 yards. Percy Harvin (six for 33 yards) has cut into his playing time. Harvin was more effective, so it's hard to quibble with it.

Guh.

 

I think #7 really bothers me most... comments like this don't make sense to me, it's a product of Rex's excuse-making culture. 2-8 does suck. You suck. The Jets suck. Own it.

[deucebag]

Brice McCain is one of the worst defensive backs in football.

 

If Shazier and Polamalu aren't hurt, then their defense gets our offense off the field faster, and Ben gets more time to carve us up. 

Yea, and if Dee Milliner, Dex McDougle, Shaq Evans, and Tommy Bohanon weren't injured, blah, blah, blah.....

[Latinlawyer]

We only lost by X points we ain't that bad... a loss is a loss. How about being up 21-3 and losing the game...yeah that bad.

 

Umm, you are what your record says you are. You are 2-8...cellar dwellers. You are bad. Maybe not Oakland Raider bad but you are bad.

[Integrity28]

Yea, and if Dee Milliner, Dex McDougle, Shaq Evans, and Tommy Bohanon weren't injured, blah, blah, blah.....

 

LOL, have you seen Shazier and Polamalu play? 

 

LMFAO