flgreen Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 At his age? That is a vacant saying. The vast majority of franchise QBs over the years already carried themselves like mature men in college. A rare bird indeed that can "grow up on the job." Especially that job. Parcells always said you dont know what you have in a QB until he gets kicked in the teeth. Since true character is often exposed in that situation, Winston is a really bad bet. LOL C'mon. Mark Sanchez was charged with sexual assault as a freshman. Was actually arrested, did community service, and suspended from the team. There are numerous hysterical photo's of Eli Manning drunk on line. Joe Namath was always involved in some kind of junk involving alcohol, women, or gangsters. If the media was the way it is now, there would be a lot more stories about Joe. The list just goes on and on if you want to google embarrassing incidents star football players have been involved in when they were young, and drunk. Most of them matured, like most people, as the grew older. The woman in the sexual assault case against Winston was proved to be a liar on numerous occasions. Didn't show up for police interviews, tried to persuade a friend to commit perjury, and say the panties she was wearing belonged to her friend because there were multiple DNA from different donors. Belonged to a gals club that bragged about how many jocks they had bedded, then tried to purge the face book page and lied about it. There was no more credence to this then there was with the lacross players who were rail roaded by the media several years ago . Winston just turned 21 last month. Was he immature in college? yep, just like most people. Will he mature? More then likely like most. Is there any history of drugs or alcohol? With all the scrutiny this kid has been under for the last year, there is 0 evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Some of you are so stupid, I dont know how you function in life. Will you take the word of Winston's attorney over mine? Rationalize this.... http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jameis-winston-attorney-david-cornwell-not-ready-to-be-nfl-player-off-field-041015 Ah yes, when you don't have a case, go with the personal attacks. Always works LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 As a reminder of how dumb college kids can be, here’s an old story about Peyton Manning – clean cut Peyton Manning! – from his days at Tennessee. One thing to remember: this happened in 1996, when Manning, then a junior, was the star QB for the Volunteers. These were the very early days of the internet. Surely you remember: AOL dial-up, Netscape, chat rooms. Social media wasn’t a glimmer in the eye of Silicon Valley. The setting: The Vols training room. Peyton wrote in his book, Manning: A Father, His Sons, a Football Legacy, a “track athlete” made a remark, and he mooned the athlete. He “didn’t think the [female] trainer would see” but when she did, “it seemed like something she’d have laughed at, considering” the locker room environment. “Crude maybe, but harmless,” were his words. (FSU fans may argue that quote applies to Winston’s explicit comment, except that Manning hadn’t been investigated for rape.) Manning, for whatever reason, also added in the book that the trainer had a “vulgar mouth.” The trainer, however, told a different version of events in a court filing. she was examining Manning to see why Manning was having pain in one of his feet and was crouched behind him when “entirely unprovoked, Peyton Manning decided to pull down his shorts and sit on Dr. Naughright’s head and face.” As Naughright described it in a deposition entered into the court record: “It was the gluteus maximus, the rectum, the testicles and the area in between the testicles. And all that was on my face when I pushed him up. … To get leverage, I took my head out to push him up and off.” Before you downplay it as a he said/she said, let the record show that the track athlete Manning claimed to have mooned wrote the QB a letter in 2002 saying, “you might as well maintain some dignity and admit what happened … do the right thing here.” Within hours of the incident, the trainer reported it to the Sexual Assault Crisis Center in Knoxville. She reached a settlement with the University in 1997 and left Knoxville. Why is any of this relevant? In 2001, she was the program director of the Athletic Training Educational Program at Florida Southern College. In 2002, Manning’s book came out and the “vulgar” label hit the trainer. She lost her job as the program director. Manning settled out of court with the trainer in 2003. She came after Manning again in 2005 after he violated the settlement by talking to ESPN about it. In 1996, this story doesn’t get out. Even in 2002 the court filing got some attention, but nothing like it would have in 2014. To recap: College kids have always done really stupid things, and will continue to. In the past, some (many?) got away with things that they’d be crucified for in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Some of you are so stupid, I dont know how you function in life. Will you take the word of Winston's attorney over mine? Rationalize this.... http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jameis-winston-attorney-david-cornwell-not-ready-to-be-nfl-player-off-field-041015 If you listen to his entire speech he's not really saying that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 then I would guess the titans execs fall off of their chairs, lol the GM has a panic attack realizing he had all off season to evaluate winston and he never did now he has 10 minutes to decide if he wants to take him that would be so epic to see the war room if that happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Smoke Screen! Lol. This would have been more appropriate to your prior response to Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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