Eli or josh McCown next yr ?

[nyjunc]

6 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

So bad he was 8-3 despite not knowing the playbook with 20tds 12ints

thanks to an incredibly weak schedule and even w/ thaty sched he managed to lose games vs. Cassell in his first start since HS, at Jamarcus Russell and Oakland and getting embarrassed by 8-8 SD(a year later w/ a different QB we'd beat SD on the same field in a slightly bigger game).

3 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Bortles is a young Eli now? Lol

 

Eli has had the worst offensive line in the entire nfl in front of him 2 years in a row and still put up decent passing stats.  If you think another wasted draft pick by Mac like Petty or Hack can do that God Bless

In first 4 seasons:

Eli: 987-1805, 55%, 11385 yds, 77 TDs, 64 INTs, 73.4 rating

Bortles: 1250-2116, 59.1%, 85 TDs, 59 INTs, 80.8 rating

 

The OL excuse is always the first people throw out there when a QB sucks.  Our Ol isn't any better than NYG so why has McCown been so much better? No his Ol is not good but better QBs make their OLs look better.  The fact is Geno outplayed Eli behind the same OL.

In the last 4 weeks for the Giants(KC, Was, Oak, Dal)

Eli started 3 games:

Led O to 12 pts(9 in regulation) w/ 1 TD, 3 points and 10 pts w/ 1 TD.  2 total TDs in 3 games and an average of 8.3 PPG

Geno started 1 game:

Led O to 17 pts including 2 TDs.  In one game Geno led offense to as many TDs as Eli in his last 3 full games.

 

NYG PPG 2016(w/ the biggest playmaker in the game): 17.6

NYG PPG 2017 w/ Eli starting: 13.8 PPG

NYG 2017 in 1 game w/ Geno: 17 points

 

 

[Philc1]

2 hours ago, nyjunc said:

thanks to an incredibly weak schedule and even w/ thaty sched he managed to lose games vs. Cassell in his first start since HS, at Jamarcus Russell and Oakland and getting embarrassed by 8-8 SD(a year later w/ a different QB we'd beat SD on the same field in a slightly bigger game).

In first 4 seasons:

Eli: 987-1805, 55%, 11385 yds, 77 TDs, 64 INTs, 73.4 rating

Bortles: 1250-2116, 59.1%, 85 TDs, 59 INTs, 80.8 rating

 

The OL excuse is always the first people throw out there when a QB sucks.  Our Ol isn't any better than NYG so why has McCown been so much better? No his Ol is not good but better QBs make their OLs look better.  The fact is Geno outplayed Eli behind the same OL.

In the last 4 weeks for the Giants(KC, Was, Oak, Dal)

Eli started 3 games:

Led O to 12 pts(9 in regulation) w/ 1 TD, 3 points and 10 pts w/ 1 TD.  2 total TDs in 3 games and an average of 8.3 PPG

Geno started 1 game:

Led O to 17 pts including 2 TDs.  In one game Geno led offense to as many TDs as Eli in his last 3 full games.

 

NYG PPG 2016(w/ the biggest playmaker in the game): 17.6

NYG PPG 2017 w/ Eli starting: 13.8 PPG

NYG 2017 in 1 game w/ Geno: 17 points

 

 

Are you Mike Macagnan?  You are almost as blind at evaluating the qb position as he is

[nyjunc]

57 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Are you Mike Macagnan?  You are almost as blind at evaluating the qb position as he is

do yourself a favor, research the way the league and Giant fans felt about Eli Manning at this point in 2007.  I can remember how the fans and media wanted him gone, I can remember the fans and media wanting him gone prior to the 2011 SB run too.  Just b/c they are acting like frauds now pretending Eli is an all time great doesn't mean I don't remember.

Bortles and Eli have been very similar through 4 years, can Bortles step up and play clean in postseason like Eli did that year? Can the Jax D lead the way like they did in both Giants titles? we'll see but so far through 4 reg seasons the QBs are almost the same except Bortles has better #s w/ the same # of playoff wins at the same stage.