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4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

That's pretty funny.  I am making assumptions, but you are telling me I don't like the NBA?  I worked for them for 15 years.  You want to say I picked the bottom of the barrel with the Nets/Kings and you counter with matchups with teams from the top 4 in each conference?  Seems fair.  How about the Wizards/Nuggets?  Who is watching that?  

Well obviously I'm referencing matchups that actually happen. Wizards/Nuggets will rarely be on TNT -- the comparison is between playoff teams and big markets that get those slots just like it is for Sunday Night baseball. Teams like the Lakers, Warriors, Knicks, Celtics, Sixers, Bulls, Thunder, Rockets, etc. all draw. Teams like Milwuakee can draw because people want to see the Greek Freak. 

Does anyone outside of the Yankees and Red Sox draw anything for SNB? ESPN clearly doesn't think so, they book the Yankees every chance they get.

If you think I'm making assumptions I guess it's hard not do when you start ranting and raving accusing me of liking super teams and dunks.

4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

IMO baseball is more about getting out to the park than basketball and it isn't expected to draw Sunday Night numbers.  The extra games feed into that. I like the NBA just fine, though I find the recent super-team fad distasteful and I do actually watch the Nets and Knicks when I am in market.  Unfortunately that is not that often and my Dad ends up giving me blow-by-blow recounts of the games over the phone. 

Agreed on getting out to the ballpark, obviously that's where baseball makes up a lot of its revenue. As the "pastime" it can be a lazy summer outing as much as anything. I still think the game is in trouble. They haven't done a good job marketing the game to the younger generation.

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4 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Well obviously I'm referencing matchups that actually happen. Wizards/Nuggets will rarely be on TNT -- the comparison is between playoff teams and big markets that get those slots just like it is for Sunday Night baseball. Teams like the Lakers, Warriors, Knicks, Celtics, Sixers, Bulls, Thunder, Rockets, etc. all draw. Teams like Milwuakee can draw because people want to see the Greek Freak. 

Does anyone outside of the Yankees and Red Sox draw anything for SNB? ESPN clearly doesn't think so, they book the Yankees every chance they get.

If you think I'm making assumptions I guess it's hard not do when you start ranting and raving accusing me of liking super teams and dunks.

Agreed on getting out to the ballpark, obviously that's where baseball makes up a lot of its revenue. As the "pastime" it can be a lazy summer outing as much as anything. I still think the game is in trouble. They haven't done a good job marketing the game to the younger generation.

I know it's anecdotal  but my 5 year old loves baseball. Sleeps with his mitt. 

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13 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Agreed on getting out to the ballpark, obviously that's where baseball makes up a lot of its revenue. As the "pastime" it can be a lazy summer outing as much as anything. I still think the game is in trouble. They haven't done a good job marketing the game to the younger generation.

 

8 minutes ago, Jet9 said:

I know it's anecdotal  but my 5 year old loves baseball. Sleeps with his mitt. 

I think that part of the problem is looking at a multi-billion dollar business and saying it is dying.  Making major changes to the product to cater to the new audience is a mistake in my view.  As long as there are kids like your 5-year old it will live.  In my experience tons of little kids love baseball,.  They love the stats. 

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6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

 

I think that part of the problem is looking at a multi-billion dollar business and saying it is dying.  Making major changes to the product to cater to the new audience is a mistake in my view.  As long as there are kids like your 5-year old it will live.  In my experience tons of little kids love baseball,.  They love the stats. 

Agreed, I think they should let the audience come to them. I dont watch the NBA anymore because fouls are made up, they're phantom calls, all game long. They changed the game and lost me as a fan, and I'm only 39. I also dont see how a game like soccer, with very slow to develop offense, is going to lure in a crowd that needs visual stimulation 24/7.

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1 hour ago, Jet9 said:

I know plenty of soccer fans, yet not one MLS fan. 

This is a true statement.   Nearby Orlando draws well... as do many other cities in their respective local market.  But while the product has improved dramatically over the last 20 years, and continues to improve, it is not at a level where it can recruit casual interest from a soccer lover, like myself, with no rooting interest the way the Premiership or Champions League can.  I will occasionally watch MLS games in spurts when it is on, but never start to finish.

P.S.  Goddamn... I hate the word soccer.  It is football too.

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18 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I'm a Dodgers fan.  I was lucky enough to listen to Vin for basically the last decade.  I 100% agree he's the gold standard.  I do not agree on your account of how he did games though.  Vin would let the big moments carry themselves, but during the meat and potatoes of a given game, he was always talking, always telling a story, even if only loosely related to the events at the exact moment.

Not only the best at MLB but also the best play-by-play football announcer I've ever heard too (yes that includes Pat Summerall).  Not many people know/remember that  Vin called the famous Cowboys/49ers "The Catch" game.

I will say though that I preferred Vin with Joe Garagiola.  THAT was an incredible duo!  Costas/Kubek was another great one but Vin and Joe were the absolute gold standard.

 

18 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said:

She's as good as a color person as you'll find in my opinion.

Would Yankee fans rather listen to the guy who has all the nicknames and dopey homerun calls?

I will agree, A-Rod does not have the knack for it, but his insights are good. Just can't deliver them well.

You must be a Yankee fan.  The Mets' booth (and roving reporter) is head and shoulders better than anything on ESPN.  I would guess there's a very good chance the Mets have the best broadcasters in all of baseball (now that Vin Scully retired).  I laugh when I hear Yankee and Red Sox fans talk about who they think good broadcasters are.  The Mets might be a crappy team but their announcers are top-notch.

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19 hours ago, RoadFan said:

Because I enjoy listening to sports radio and watching sports related shows.  And they waste WAY too much time discussing a dying sport instead of forward thinking.  Millenials are far more interested in fringe sports and European football than baseball.   And these 50 something white guys that run the stations better wake the f*ck up soon.

I think it sucks, but I am not advocating to kill baseball.   But it is not an American treasure anymore... and I don't want to hear about it like it is.

Is this Sarah Leong?

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9 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

You must be a Yankee fan.  The Mets' booth (and roving reporter) is head and shoulders better than anything on ESPN.  I would guess there's a very good chance the Mets have the best broadcasters in all of baseball (now that Vin Scully retired).  I laugh when I hear Yankee and Red Sox fans talk about who they think good broadcasters are.  The Mets might be a crappy team but their announcers are top-notch.

Even my buddies who are Yankee fans hate Michael Kay and are jealous of Gary Cohen... And Ron Darling is fantastic.

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11 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Not only the best at MLB but also the best play-by-play football announcer I've ever heard too (yes that includes Pat Summerall).  Not many people know/remember that  Vin called the famous Cowboys/49ers "The Catch" game.

I will say though that I preferred Vin with Joe Garagiola.  THAT was an incredible duo!  Costas/Kubek was another great one but Vin and Joe were the absolute gold standard.

 

You must be a Yankee fan.  The Mets' booth (and roving reporter) is head and shoulders better than anything on ESPN.  I would guess there's a very good chance the Mets have the best broadcasters in all of baseball (now that Vin Scully retired).  I laugh when I hear Yankee and Red Sox fans talk about who they think good broadcasters are.  The Mets might be a crappy team but their announcers are top-notch.

I'm not sure if you are serious.  You quoted me twice.  The first quote, very first sentence I say I'm a Dodger fan.  The next quote you say I must be a Yankee fan , apparently because I don't like their moronic announcer?  Color me confused.

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5 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I'm not sure if you are serious.  You quoted me twice.  The first quote, very first sentence I say I'm a Dodger fan.  The next quote you say I must be a Yankee fan , apparently because I don't like their moronic announcer?  Color me confused.

LOL my apologies!  I didn't realize I was quoting the same person with those 2 posts.  I assumed anyone praising the ESPN crew was probably a Yankee fan (I assume most people on this forum are from NY).  I guess the Dodgers didn't have a color announcer for a while though so who would you compare her to anyway!  

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8 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Even my buddies who are Yankee fans hate Michael Kay and are jealous of Gary Cohen... And Ron Darling is fantastic.

And Keith is both wacky (I mean that in a good way though) as well as a great baseball analyst.  And having Gary there to keep him focused maximizes his strengths in both areas.

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On 8/5/2018 at 8:56 PM, RoadFan said:

Baseball sucks. The End.

Right ... back to your drivel again? 

I think soccer sucks -  but that doesn't matter as it's only an opinion.

How bout you go and start a soccer thread as there doesn't seem to be enough interest to have one in Other Sports and post in it till your fingers fall off and stay out of the baseball thread? I promise I won't come in it to tell you how much I believe soccer sucks and hijack the thread from the vital discussions of .... who knows or cares what's vital to it ......

I wouldn't do that because it wouldn't be the right thing to do, but mostly because I don't have sufficient interest in even acknowledging it's a sport.  

  

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I don’t mind Michael Kay.  I actually like John Sterling.  Suzyn Waldman however oofahh she is brutal.  Wants to be every player’s mother and tell you their boring life stories I’m like STFU I just want to hear the game

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On 8/6/2018 at 6:39 PM, TuscanyTile2 said:

And Keith is both wacky (I mean that in a good way though) as well as a great baseball analyst.  And having Gary there to keep him focused maximizes his strengths in both areas.

Keith Hernandez is snore inducing

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ARod wanted to and got square with Maddon on the Darvish blab which hopefully he would have done without public eye pressure.

2 different club cultures - have to respect where he came from where Steinbrenner got guys outta the way by making them rehab in Florida and made it a goal to get back into the parent clubhouse.

Lucky for Cubs in this instance their current culture is family  - especially when it comes to a mentally soft guy like Darvish. Keeping him in the fold could make all the difference in whether he comes back strong and earns the money he got.

Also and more importantly if the Cubs are going anywhere in the postseason, despite the windfall of obtaining a now solid Hamels, they need pitching desperately.  

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