Has Freddie Kitchens (Baker Mayfield) lost the locker room (fan base)?

[Villain The Foe]

On 12/26/2019 at 3:56 AM, 14 in Green said:

2019 QBR to date

#1 Lamar Jackson

#20 Baker Mayfield

#24 Josh Allen

#26 Sam Darnold

 

On 12/26/2019 at 12:36 PM, NYJ1 said:

You're an idiot. Darnold has one less touchdown in 3 less games. He's also thrown only 12 interceptions in comparison to Bakers 18. This, not to mention Baker has much better talent as compared to the Jets.

 

On 12/26/2019 at 12:53 PM, SummerofSam14 said:

He’s not an idiot. He’s posting stats.

QBR is just an ESPN formula that doesn’t mean anything. The fact that Mitch Trubisky ranked 3rd in the league last year is all you need to know.

 

To be fair, the stat must mean something since the same year that ESPN gave Mitch that stat the league also considered him a pro bowler. But lets figure out how meaningful this stat actually is.

 

I think that I can support what 14 posted. Lets look at the guys who were #1 on that list over the past few years

2019: Lamar Jackson. The overwhelming majority of folks would agree that he's the MVP this year. 

2018: Patrick Mahomes. He was MVP last season and the overwhelming majority of this forum agreed with that. 

2017: Carson Wentz. He was the favorite for MVP that season, and probably would have won it had it not been for his injury in week 13 of that season. 

2016: Matt Ryan. MVP that season.

Gotta admit, this can be viewed as a trend. Also, if I would have went deeper into each season you would have seen all-pro's and pro bowlers at the top of these yearly lists...which adds credibility to this particular statistic. 

So no...14 is not an idiot. And stats that dont make Bakery Mayflower look as bad as folks would like him to look arent suddenly meaningless. 

 

 

[greenwichjetfan]

46 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Trubisky is ranked #3. QBR is an awful vehicle to compare QB success.

Yea but, agendas and stuff. 

[Villain The Foe]

5 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Yea but, agendas and stuff. 

Hey Green! ?

[Beaver]

1 hour ago, Dcat said:

Trubisky is ranked #3. QBR is an awful vehicle to compare QB success.

What site are you looking at that shows Trubisky's QBR at #3?  He is showing at #29.  Or are we talking about a previous year?

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

 

[Villain The Foe]

3 hours ago, Beaver said:

What site are you looking at that shows Trubisky's QBR at #3?  He is showing at #29.  Or are we talking about a previous year?

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

 

They're talking about last year's stat, while using this year's performance by him to make it seem like the stat was ridiculous or in error at the time it was calculated. ?

You know, because folks "without agenda's" (Looking at you Greenwich) will take Trubisky's performance this season in order to criticize his pro bowl performance last season.

 

[k-met57]

5 hours ago, Ghost420 said:

 Ill take myles garrett all day everday on the jets 

wont make him any less of an idiot...