#27TheDominator Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 6 minutes ago, y2k8 said: What was the opportunity cost of picking Gholston? It was a below average draft class. Anyone they would have picked would have been meh. They could have simply taken Flacco. There was plenty of chatter about them doing that. Do that and they could have avoided both the Favre and Sanchez fiascos. A literal win-win-win-win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 19 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: They could have simply taken Flacco. There was plenty of chatter about them doing that. Do that and they could have avoided both the Favre and Sanchez fiascos. A literal win-win-win-win. Flacco was taken 18th overall and not a person at the time would have pounded the table for the Jets to take him. They would have been laughed off the podium taking a D2 QB that high. Jerrod Mayo is the only possible realistic pick they could have made at 6, but did they need a middle linebacker w David Harris there? People focus on how unproductive Gholston was - and he was terrible - but the opportunity cost is nowhere near as high as a slew of other picks the Jets have made over the years. O'Brien over Marino, Brady over Sapp, Bryan Thomas over Ed Reed, etc, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 10 minutes ago, y2k8 said: Flacco was taken 18th overall and not a person at the time would have pounded the table for the Jets to take him. They would have been laughed off the podium taking a D2 QB that high. Jerrod Mayo is the only possible realistic pick they could have made at 6, but did they need a middle linebacker w David Harris there? People focus on how unproductive Gholston was - and he was terrible - but the opportunity cost is nowhere near as high as a slew of other picks the Jets have made over the years. O'Brien over Marino, Brady over Sapp, Bryan Thomas over Ed Reed, etc, etc. Flacco was very much in the conversation pre-draft. Being more worried about "being laughed off the podium" rather than making the best pick for the team is a huge ******* problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, y2k8 said: What was the opportunity cost of picking Gholston? It was a below average draft class. Anyone they would have picked would have been meh. That’s why he’s #5 on that list despite being the worst overall player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Flacco was very much in the conversation pre-draft. Being more worried about "being laughed off the podium" rather than making the best pick for the team is a huge ******* problem. You wouldn’t take Flacco at 6 overall at the time or if you could jump into a time machine and have a do over with that pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#27TheDominator Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You wouldn’t take Flacco at 6 overall at the time or if you could jump into a time machine and have a do over with that pick Who are you taking when you get out of your hot tub? Calais Campbell? Most of the best players in that draft came outside the top 20. A few, like Duane Brown are still playing. The Patriots drafted Jackie Slater's kid Matthew a WR in the 5th round. He has 1 catch, but has won 3 super bowls, 10 times to the pro bowl and twice all pro as a gunner. Still playing, still with the Pats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Who are you taking when you get out of your hot tub? Calais Campbell? Most of the best players in that draft came outside the top 20. A few, like Duane Brown are still playing. The Patriots drafted Jackie Slater's kid Matthew a WR in the 5th round. He has 1 catch, but has won 3 super bowls, 10 times to the pro bowl and twice all pro as a gunner. Still playing, still with the Pats. You and I both remember Flacco at the time and it was a weird eval and a ballsy, weird pick by Baltimore. A big stiff out of the University of Delaware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, y2k8 said: Flacco was taken 18th overall and not a person at the time would have pounded the table for the Jets to take him. They would have been laughed off the podium taking a D2 QB that high. Who cares what the draft nerds would have thought of the pick at the time. Flacco on that 2010 Jets team, we possibly win it all. That's the opportunity cost for our 2008 draft. Traditionally, the Jets were too fond of making the obvious 'chalk' picks. Maccagnan did it every single year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 21 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You and I both remember Flacco at the time and it was a weird eval and a ballsy, weird pick by Baltimore. A big stiff out of the University of Delaware? Well, at the time I remember talking about trading up for Ryan or down for Flacco. Probably thought he might make it around to our 2nd. Instead, we moved that 2nd (#36 turned out to be Jordy Nelson) and a 4th (#113 Dwight Lowery who we strangely got back with the Eric Ainge pick for #102 Jeremy Thompson) for Dustin Keller at #30. Meanwhile, the Ravens moved #26 (Duane Brown), #89 (Steve Slaton) and #173 (Dominque Barber) to get to 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 54 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: Who cares what the draft nerds would have thought of the pick at the time. Flacco on that 2010 Jets team, we possibly win it all. That's the opportunity cost for our 2008 draft. Traditionally, the Jets were too fond of making the obvious 'chalk' picks. Maccagnan did it every single year. Are you suggesting that the Jets are the only organization wary of being a complete outlier on making a top 10 pick? Flacco was considered a project. He played exclusively out of shotgun in second division college football. He had size and arm talent but so do a million other guys. Not one NFL team would have drafted him at 6. Now, you can argue they could have traded down, collected more draft capital and taken him late in the first round... that would be a more realistic scenario. But if we are going to play that game, the list of would/could/should haves is endless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 9 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Who are you taking when you get out of your hot tub? Calais Campbell? Most of the best players in that draft came outside the top 20. A few, like Duane Brown are still playing. The Patriots drafted Jackie Slater's kid Matthew a WR in the 5th round. He has 1 catch, but has won 3 super bowls, 10 times to the pro bowl and twice all pro as a gunner. Still playing, still with the Pats. 2008 was one of those drafts that getting a bust in round 1 was almost unavoidable. 2013 was similar. Literally everyone sucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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