When do the signings start?

[4HCrew]

when does D Brick and these guys get their deals done? I am predicting the week camp starts.

[faba]

Just read the Bears have like all but two of their draft choices signed. With July 28 the the start I expect after this holiday week we will start getting some in house

[SoFlaJets]

I think Faba is right I expect that maybe tomorrow we start seeing names inked-All I know is I'm not worried b/c we have Mikey T in charge and even though there's some woman(OK whoever?) doing what was his previous job I'm very confident she'll do just as good a job as her new boss did.Tannenbaum NEVER had a rookie hold out

[Sperm Edwards]

I think Faba is right I expect that maybe tomorrow we start seeing names inked-All I know is I'm not worried b/c we have Mikey T in charge and even though there's some woman(OK whoever?) doing what was his previous job I'm very confident she'll do just as good a job as her new boss did.Tannenbaum NEVER had a rookie hold out

As long as it's not another DFat-esque contract blunder I'm for it. His contract at #4 was more lucrative than Andre Johnson's at #3.

[SoFlaJets]

As long as it's not another DFat-esque contract blunder I'm for it. His contract at #4 was more lucrative than Andre Johnson's at #3.

you sure about that SE?I'd like to see what the numbers actually were.History shows Mike T didn't F-up too often for us-but hey,we're all human.Also DT's contracts are probably different than receivers who only see the ball however many times they do-sometimes never while D-linemen play almost every defensive snap

[Sperm Edwards]

you sure about that SE?I'd like to see what the numbers actually were.History shows Mike T didn't F-up too often for us-but hey,we're all human.Also DT's contracts are probably different than receivers who only see the ball however many times they do-sometimes never while D-linemen play almost every defensive snap

I remember reading it somewhere. I'll try to find it.

[Sperm Edwards]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/afc/draftsignings2003.html

Andre Johnson, Miami (No. 3 overall):

Signing bonus: $9,000,000.

Base salaries:

$1,000,000 (2003);

$1,150,000 (2004, plus $5,410,000 option bonus);

$1,400,000 (2005);

$1,650,000 (2006);

$1,900,000 (2007);

$2,150,000 (2008);

$1,560,000 (2009, voidable).

Notes:

If option bonus exercised, base salaries are reduced to

$395,000 (2004);

$555,000 (2005);

$805,000 (2006);

$1,055,000 (2007);

$1,305,000 (2008).

There are various escalators for performance, playing time and team performance.

Total:

seven years, $20,135,500,

or six years, for as much as $39,000,000.

http://nflpa.com/Members/playerProfile.asp?ID=34491

2003 1000000.00

2004 395000.00

2005 555000.00

2006 5000000.00

2007 5250000.00

2008 7750000.00

from 2003-2006, the total seems to be

$14.41M signing/option bonuses

$6.95M salary/roster bonuses

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$21.36M total over 4 years

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Dewayne Robertson, Kentucky (No. 4 overall):

Signing bonus: $3,000,000.

Base salaries:

$1,746,000 (2003);

$2,182,000 (2004, plus $10,000,000 option bonus);

$2,618,000 (2005);

$3,054,000 (2006);

$3,491,000 (2007);

$3,927,000 (2008);

$1,600,000 (2009).

Notes:

If the Jets exercise the $10,000,000 option payment in 2004, the base salaries are reduced to

$516,250 (2004);

$952,000 (2005);

$1,388,000 (2006);

$1,450,000 (2007).

There are escalators each season 2006-2009.

Total:

seven years, $24,579,250,

with potential for seven years, $54,000,000.

But obviously some of those incentives were easy to reach, because he got that bonus and his salary in 2006 isn’t $1.4M; it’s $4.7M in ADDITION to a $2.8M roster bonus that isn’t on the NFLPA site:

http://nflpa.com/Members/playerProfile.asp?ID=34490

Salary History

2003 1746428.00

2004 516250.00

2005 952000.00

2006 4669994.00 (but really = $7.47M; his cap charge is like $9M this year)

2007 2475000.00

2008 6800000.00

2009 4500000.00

Total 2003-2006 seasons (not counting any 2006 year-end bonuses/incentives):

$13M signing/option bonuses

$7.9M salary/roster bonuses

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$23.7M over 4 years

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Even this year alone, DRob’s cap hit is about $9M; almost $2M more than Andre Johnson’s $7.4M cap charge for this 2006. (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=16789)

Bottom line is, DRob’s contract was WAY too lucrative. I’m sure some of the incentives are/were unreachable (like being a pro-bowler in every year or 15 sacks or the like). But clearly, from his cap # this year there were plenty of reachable incentives based purely on playing time, since he got another bonus and hasn’t made a single pro-bowl or even reached as many as 4 sacks or 40 tackles in a single year.

[SoFlaJets]

yea good work SE-doubtful Dwayne makes the 13.75 million that's left with us for the next 3 years unless he finally reaches that potential we all thought he had

[Maxman]

DBrick will be in year 3 before Mangini admits that negotiations have even started yet.