madmike1 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Please on Ricky Ledee. Please. Ricky Ledee was a big time prospect at the time he was traded. Just because he never became a good player doesn't mean he wasn't a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 It doesn't take a genius to know that Pedro Martinez and Carlos Beltran are guys you want on your team... LOL Mike....the Yanks turned down Beltran. Word to the wise, you don't need to argue every point made on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Ricky Ledee was a big time prospect at the time he was traded. Just because he never became a good player doesn't mean he wasn't a prospect. Every player in the minor leagues can be defined as "prospect". Please stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 If its so easy to make decisions like these, then there wouldnt be GM's that fail. Many people bashed the Pedro, Delgado and Beltran signings when they occurred. Said that Minaya paid too much for them. It worked out in the end. Ham said we lost the Delgado deal by giving up Petit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 LOL Mike....the Yanks turned down Beltran. Word to the wise, you don't need to argue every point made on the board.The yankees made a mistake turning down beltran as i pointed out at the time... I wasn't really arguing until he started bashing the yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 The yankees made a mistake turning down beltran as i pointed out at the time... I wasn't really arguing until he started bashing the yankees. Who bashed the Yankees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Every player in the minor leagues can be defined as "prospect". Please stop. Are you nuts? When did i say anything like that? Ledee was a top 50 prospect in baseball according to BA. He wasn't just minor league roster filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Then, I guess we are all correct in criticizing teh Yankees and saying the only reason they won in the 90's was because they had the highest payroll. Thanks for admitting that. How has it worked out lately? You started bashing the yankees with this post. I'm just responding to you and the mis truth's you keep spewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 You started bashing the yankees with this post. I'm just responding to you and the mis truth's you keep spewing. Please, sho me where I was bashing the Yankees? I f I was, I am sorry. I didn't knmow you were so thin skinned. Well, actually, I did, but...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Please, sho me where I was bashing the Yankees? I f I was, I am sorry. I didn't knmow you were so thin skinned. Well, actually, I did, but...... You said the reason the yankees won their titles in the 90s was that they bought FA's. I showed you that the guys the yankees built that team with were trades and guys through the farm system. It has nothing to do with being thin skinned. It's not letting you get away with spewing BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 You said the reason the yankees won their titles in the 90s was that they bought FA's. I showed you that the guys the yankees built that team with were trades and guys through the farm system. It has nothing to do with being thin skinned. It's not letting you get away with spewing BS. I actually said "highest payroll". They didn't have the highest payroll? Saying a fact is bashing? Man, you are sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I actually said "highest payroll". They didn't have the highest payroll? Saying a fact is bashing? Man, you are sensitive. Why don't you tell me again how Ricky Ledee wasn't a prospect lol or how The Tino/Nelson trade was a salary dump. Now that i've proved you wrong you're backtracking off your statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Why don't you tell me again how Ricky Ledee wasn't a prospect lol or how The Tino/Nelson trade was a salary dump. Now that i've proved you wrong you're backtracking off your statements. Yeah, Roger Clemens was purely a "prospect" move. OK. David Wells was a Yankee prospect. OK. Brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Yeah, Roger Clemens was purely a "prospect" move. OK. David Wells was a Yankee prospect. OK. Brother. No that was a smart trade. They traded a player with value (and a prospect) for another player with value. Wells pitched very well for the jays too. It's not like that was a steal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 No that was a smart trade. They traded a player with value (and a prospect) for another player with value. Wells pitched very well for the jays too. It's not like that was a steal... Yeah, Roger Clemens for David Well is a straight up deal. Sure. I don't care if you throw in 5 "prospects" in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Yeah, Roger Clemens for David Well is a straight up deal. Sure. I don't care if you throw in 5 "prospects" in the deal. If you look at the first 2 years after the trade was made you could make a clear argument that the jays got the better end of that trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 He did overpay. For both of them. Thats why Wilpon deserves the credit because he gave Minaya a blank check. Delgado was a trade, Florida signed him to that contract. Omar vastly overpaid for Pedro. I thought Pedro would give 2 great years, and get hurt his 3rd, and be useless his 4th. Turns out I was 1 year off. The Beltran contract, while steep, was a good investment. He should still be a top player in his last seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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