afosomf Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 ....true....but it was the defense that won those SB's. Funny how the team is now referred to as offense first....a complete 180 of the true BB philosophy. Will be interesting to see if the old addage holds true. Defense wins championships. also ya think those teams cared about personal records!!!!!! We shall see if it catches up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayLewis Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Jacksonville has one hell of a defence too. They would be a very tough team for anyone to face. The Patriots defense has given up less points, allowed less yardage passing and rushing and have a better third-down defense, FYI. New England's D also has 10 more sacks. The only important defensive category that Jacksonville tops New England in is yards per rush average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 also ya think those teams cared about personal records!!!!!! We shall see if it catches up to them. Yes. Why else would you have VT throwing a TD in the last few minutes of a game they were up by 10 points already? For some obscure NFL record. Why have Doug Flutie do a drop kick? For another obscure thing. For all the claims of arrogance that is thrown upon them, it would seem disengious to say they are arrogant but do not care about records. Their credibility has been put into question. They have a huge bullseye on them and they still set those records. It is not so much that they wanted the records, but another way to show the NFL a big middle finger and FU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 ....true....but it was the defense that won those SB's. Funny how the team is now referred to as offense first....a complete 180 of the true BB philosophy. Will be interesting to see if the old addage holds true. Defense wins championships. It is all about playing the game as the rules are today. Back when the rules favored the defense, good defenses won games. Now with the current holding, PI, and roughing the passer rules, good offenses win. I think BB did a better job at anticipating how the new rules (which he opposed) would change the game, and changed his offense to fit within the new game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 The Patriots defense has given up less points, allowed less yardage passing and rushing and have a better third-down defense, FYI. New England's D also has 10 more sacks. The only important defensive category that Jacksonville tops New England in is yards per rush average. I didn't say it was better than the Pats D, I said it was pretty good. Which it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 It is all about playing the game as the rules are today. Back when the rules favored the defense, good defenses won games. Now with the current holding, PI, and roughing the passer rules, good offenses win. I think BB did a better job at anticipating how the new rules (which he opposed) would change the game, and changed his offense to fit within the new game. Interesting take and a very good point. Although it doesn't hurt to have a stud d-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 It is all about playing the game as the rules are today. Back when the rules favored the defense, good defenses won games. Now with the current holding, PI, and roughing the passer rules, good offenses win. I think BB did a better job at anticipating how the new rules (which he opposed) would change the game, and changed his offense to fit within the new game. umm if he did a better job, he could have won it last year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 umm if he did a better job, he could have won it last year!!! His arrogance got the best of him - and he completely miscalculated the Branch situation. Their won-loss record, a direct result of a less than stellar offense, had them playing a playoff game in San Diego - then Indy. Put it this way, Tom Brady was throwing to a box of rocks last year....and still got them within moments of the SB. Yes, I know they choked away a good lead in the Indy Champ game. Still makes me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 If I were a Pats fan, I would have trouble trusting a defense that was torched in the second half by the likes of Kyle Boller, AJ Feeley, and Eli Manning. I guess we'll see if the old adage holds true this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 umm if he did a better job, he could have won it last year!!! he came pretty close, if the Pats had held onto their 18 point lead in the AFCCG they would have likely won the SB. But after giving up that lead, BB didn't go out and make major improvements to the defense that couldn't stop the Colts in the second half, we went out and got Moss, Welker and Stalworth. Time will tell if the maximum dies this year. Although some would say it died last year. The Colts are an offense team the bears a defense team. But the game evolves, teams that evolve with it win. Teams that don't have fan bases like the Steelers who constantly whine that real football was what was played in the 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 he came pretty close, if the Pats had held onto their 18 point lead in the AFCCG they would have likely won the SB. But after giving up that lead, BB didn't go out and make major improvements to the defense that couldn't stop the Colts in the second half, we went out and got Moss, Welker and Stalworth. Time will tell if the maximum dies this year. Although some would say it died last year. The Colts are an offense team the bears a defense team. But the game evolves, teams that evolve with it win. Teams that don't have fan bases like the Steelers who constantly whine that real football was what was played in the 1970s. I would say anticipating was wrong word to use..the rules were already set in motion and all he could give cindy was Bug eyes, Troy and Gaffney. I would say arrogance is better word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 he came pretty close, if the Pats had held onto their 18 point lead in the AFCCG they would have likely won the SB. But after giving up that lead, BB didn't go out and make major improvements to the defense that couldn't stop the Colts in the second half, we went out and got Moss, Welker and Stalworth. Time will tell if the maximum dies this year. Although some would say it died last year. The Colts are an offense team the bears a defense team. But the game evolves, teams that evolve with it win. Teams that don't have fan bases like the Steelers who constantly whine that real football was what was played in the 1970s. signing adalius thomas and coming to terms with assante (if only for a year) were two HUGE defensive moves made by the pats in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 he came pretty close, if the Pats had held onto their 18 point lead in the AFCCG they would have likely won the SB. But after giving up that lead, BB didn't go out and make major improvements to the defense that couldn't stop the Colts in the second half, we went out and got Moss, Welker and Stalworth. Time will tell if the maximum dies this year. Although some would say it died last year. The Colts are an offense team the bears a defense team. But the game evolves, teams that evolve with it win. Teams that don't have fan bases like the Steelers who constantly whine that real football was what was played in the 1970s. You signed Adalius Thomas, Franchised Asante and also used your 1st round pick on Merriweather. You obviously set out to improve both units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayLewis Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 By Ron Borges The Patriots hadn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 By Ron Borges The Patriots hadn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS11269 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I wanna see Favre outlast Brady in the big one Not going to happen, but would be awesome to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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