MikeJetsWord Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 University of Southern California DT Sedrick Ellis said during his NFL Scouting Combine interview that he should be able to play in a 3-4 defense. He believes he can play nose tackle at his current weight of 309 pounds. Hopefully he doesn't Tell Mangini this... Sounds like D-Rob part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Oh Dear God. If he is to play he needs to bulk up (which by looking at him I can't see possible). If we draft him I will lose it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Sedrick Ellis a Jet would hardly be the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Sedrick Ellis a Jet would hardly be the end of the world. Yeah, if we switched to a 4-3 it wouldn't. That's not happening so yes it would. We need a true legit 3-4 NT and Ellis would not be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I am on board the Rogers-wagon... and would like to see Gholston at 6.If Gholston is off the board, and it comes down to Sedrick Ellis, Dorsey, or a QB (and no trade downs are possible).... I go with Ellis, he's a high motor player and would be perfect on obvious-passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I am on board the Rogers-wagon... and would like to see Gholston at 6.If Gholston is off the board, and it comes down to Sedrick Ellis, Dorsey, or a QB (and no trade downs are possible).... I go with Ellis, he's a high motor player and would be perfect on obvious-passing downs. In that scenario I'd reach for a player before taking either Long or Dorsey. No way would either of them fit on this team. Just no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Reach? for who? the best WR? a CB? Come on.... Ellis can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Reach? for who? the best WR? a CB? Come on.... Ellis can play. He can play but just not in this defence. Same applies to Dorsey (who I think is better than Ellis anyways). In that scenario I would probably reach for McKelvin or Harvey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 He can play but just not in this defence. Same applies to Dorsey (who I think is better than Ellis anyways). In that scenario I would probably reach for McKelvin or Harvey. I simply LOVE Ellis. I watched almost all the USC games this year. He's a GREAT DT but as you have so correctly stated he does NOT fit as a NT in a 3/4 scheme like the Jets employ. Christ he's lighter than DRob. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Ellis is horrible, he won't help this team at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Ellis is horrible, he won't help this team at all. LOL, he's a very good prospect. Just not for us. Calling him 'horrible' is very harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 LOL, he's a very good prospect. Just not for us. Calling him 'horrible' is very harsh. I don't know if anyone is good for our defense. Lol I bet McFadden can play D... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 People have to realize that there's not just one prototypical type of NT, because there isn't just one type of 34 defense. He holds his ground exceptionally well when he uses proper technique, but when he gets too high he'll get taken out of the play much easier. For those thinking he would be like Drob part two hasn't seen enough of ellis play, just because there sizes are similar doesn't mean they are similarl there playing styles are completely different. That having been said, I would not like the pick if gholston were still on the board. And of course he's going to say he can play in the 34, he'll say whatever it takes to get be the highest pick he can. One of the biggest things about the NT position is the player actually doesn't mind playing it and for all of Drobs physical inabilties he hasn't been a problem concerning his motor or him pi$sing and moaning about it in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 whoops, wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Ellis is horrible, he won't help this team at all. ???? See Ghost, When you make a post like this it's obvious that you have NOT watched him play this year. Come on, fess up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 whoops, wrong thread. I love it when that happens. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 ???? See Ghost, When you make a post like this it's obvious that you have NOT watched him play this year. Come on, fess up. To be honest, I haven't. But I really did look at his size, can he really plug up the holes ? I don't know about that. Lucky guess tho.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Nobody agrees with Drob at NT, but Mangini has made little effort to adjust that. I don't know if Mangini wants to employ a lighter NT in his scheme; it sure isn't the norm. If he decided that Drob is an ideal sized NT; then, getting a (stronger) Drob clone makes sense. I'd prefer Ellis in the middle, trading off snaps with Rogers, than over-reaching for a CB or OLB prospect. BTW Harvey looks just like Bryan Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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