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Topic: We need to bring back the old JN

The problem is that this site is no longer fresh. Its no longer new. Everyone knows what JN is about now. There are no surprises anymore. We know all the main characters and what they're about.

This is the normal evolution of a message board. I think Max and Co. have done a great job in delaying the inevitable collapse of JN. What this board needs is a group of people who are sick and tired of JN to run off and start their own board so the cycle can start all over again. :Ban:

This site hasnt changed. People were banned before 2008. The guy today would have been banned day 1 for that sh!t. And the whole DWC and 128&friends would have been fine if some people (like myself) wouldnt have gotten their panties in a bunch over their ridiculous posts.

This place is still the same. Its just the newer people here havent carried the torch our forefathers left for us. The originators have moved on to something else. Now its time for an evolution at JN. Its time for the newer people to stop waiting for the board to be exciting. Its time for people to step up and make this place what they want it to be.

People want this place to be fun and off the wall? Then make it that way. Find funny stories. Discuss stupid topics. Heck, villian is playing the role of DWC/128 very well (except for the fact he isnt mentally screwed in the head! :)) He's a sh!t stirrer who has a different view on the world and life. And his chick is a cutie!!! :):):)

All Im saying is.... Dont wait. Post. Even if it is stupid. Sure many threads people start are duds. But sometimes there are winners. Like this thread. Its a winner.

Love,

LBS-

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Topic: *** Official 2010 World Cup Thread ***

I would love to see the North Korean coverage of World Cup. They probably have teams of specially kidnapped actors ready to recreate all the matches according to the Propaganda Ministry's script. So while everybody's watching a Brazil - Spain final or something like that, your average Kim in Pyongyang will be watching a World Cup final of the USA versus North Korea.

Of course, the evil capitalist Americans will not stand a chance against the superior physical, mental and moral skills of socialist workers. The North Koreans, (cheered on by their Southern brothers, who withdrew from the semi-final rather than play them, as it was obviously a Western plot to further divide these peace loving people) will win 12-0, and when the trophy is being presented, Kim Jong-Il will drive a golf ball into the Jules Rimet trophy from a mile away.

Everyone in North Korea will then be allowed an extra 5 grains of rice in their daily ration to celebrate this famous victory.

The Nomination: "Assuming we still do this thing. LOL" Irish Jet

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Topic: why?

It's actually kind of awesome when you're the one who gets to free them from captivity. Every time she puts them in the cage, I feel like a Jewish Harriet Tubman, leading her t!ts out of slavery and into the promised land.

The Nomination: "Are there really any serious challengers? :rl:" Klecko73isGod

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Topic: Kim Jong Il invents invisible cell phone, using it to win World Cup

So, you enjoy the ramblings of a man that lies, exaggerates, suffers from personality disorder, has clear self-esteem issues, is clearly delusional and is the butt of many jokes?

Hey! Wait a minute! Kim Jong.....is this you? Zippy!

The Nomination: "will never win but damn it's funy" jgb

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Topic: JetNation Has A BIG Announcement

1. 124 is coming back

2. JN, JI and TGG are merging forming a super board

3. Max's daily caloric intake is now lower than his post count

4. Max is starting a few new boards- for the UFL, Arena Football and Flag Football

5. JN is shutting down since the funny is gone. Max blames all the refugees from the 2nd Great JI purge.

6. New and Improved board. New look, same lame posters.

7. Borgo?

8. Atwater is finally a legal word at JN

9. Max is competing in the Nathans Hot Dog eating contest wearing nothing but a diaper and a JN tattoo on his gunt.

10. Max won the lottery. PSL's for everyone!

The Nomination: "LOL!!!!!!!!" Max

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Topic: Bandwagon Jet Nation posters...

For the record I welcome bandwagon fans.

Bandwagon fans = Increased Ad Revenue

Increased Ad Revenue = Summer Nanny

That has always been the goal here. :winking0001:

No seriously we have all been through so many years when there was no bandwagon. Just the thought of a bandwagon makes me happy.

The Nomination: "It is great to have a bandwagon for the massess to jump on...As a long time Jets fan this post captures our collective positive vibe about the upcoming season." LWC611

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Topic: Jets unveil Ring of Honor

No just one of the younger ones.

When you say you are "a numbers person when it comes to the HOF", there in lies the flaw of your evaluation process.

I'm willing to bet you never saw Namath play live, so for you to make comment that a player you never saw play "sucked", purely based on evaluating statistics kills your argument and your credibility about the player.

But put that aside for a second...

If football legends like Vince Lombardi, Paul Brown, Don Shula, John Madden, Bill Walsh, Al Davis, Bear Bryant, Sid Gilman, Dan Fouts, Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, and Fran Tarkenton all agree that Joe Namath is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play, and each of them have said that, then why in the world wouldn't you take their word for it. Do you know more about football than those guys?

I'm not trying to insult you, as many younger fans who now grow up in an era of sports where leagues do what they can to increase offense, also tend to look at statistics to compare players they've seen to players who played before they were born.

But that is a flawed exercise, as the game of football in the 50's, 60's, and 70's was a much, much, MUCH differently played game than the offensive game of the 80's and beyond. You can't compare players, especially QB's of those two eras, fairly. It's much easier to play the position and compile gaudy stats in today's game and if you don't acknowledge that, then you ain't paying attention.

Both Chad Pennington and Daunte Culpepper have higher career passer ratings than Johnny Unitas, Dan Marino, Roger Staubach, Bart Starr, Dan Fouts, Brett Favre, Troy Aikman, John Elway, and Joe Namath, but you'd have to be out of your friggin' mind if you think either of them are better quarterbacks than ANY of the quarterbacks behind them in the stats column.

Emmitt Smith and Curtis Martin both outgained Jim Brown in their careers by 6,000 and 2,000 yards respectively, so looking at stats, you might imply they were better players. But if you think either of those guys were as good as Jim Brown, then I would surmise that you never saw Jim Brown play, because most "football people" will tell you that neither Smith nor Martin could carry Jim Brown's jock strap.

Listen, you make some good points about C-Mart. I never said he didn't belong in the HOF. I think he does. I only said I didn't think he was the greatest Jet player of all-time and if you saw Joe Namath play, you would understand why.

If you could go back in time, say into the decade of the 80's, and you did a poll at that time as to who the best QB in the league was, you would have gotten a couple of different answers. Half would have said Marino, and half would have said Montana.

If you did the same thing in the 90's, you would have gotten a variety of different answers. Some would have said Favre, some would have said Elway, some would have said Aikman, and Steve Young and Jim Kelly may have even gotten some votes.

In the 2000's, you got Manning and Brady.

But in the late 60's and early 70's, for about a 5 to 6 year stretch from 1967 to 1972 when he was in his prime, Namath was widely acknowledged by most people in and out of the game as not only the best quarterback in football at THAT time, but also the sport's most exciting player, even with the injuries that prevented him from playing a couple of full seasons in that time span. And anyone who was around at that time watching football knows what I'm talking about.

It's kind of funny ... if you never saw either Fran Tarkenton or Joe Namath play, you could look back on their career stats, and surmize that Fran Tarkenton was immeasurably better than Namath. In fact, many people who never saw either play, do.

However, if you ask anybody who was alive and saw each of those players play during that period, and asked them during THAT period who was better, 9 out of 10 people would have take Namath over Tarkenton hands down. Even friends of mine who were huge Giants fans at the time acknowledged Namath was much better.

It's funny how analyzing statistics years later can cause people to have a totally different perspective than what was the ACTUAL perception at the time. You're starting to see it now with Marino and how his career is being perceived retrospectively because he never won a Super Bowl.

I don't expect the younger folks on this board to understand what I'm talking about, but anybody who was alive and followed football in the late 60's and early '70's knows what I'm talking about.

And 20 years from now when they change the rules again, and the "hotshot QB" of 2030 throws for 7,000 yards in a season, the same folks who are arguing AGAINST how good Namath was will be the guys arguing FOR Manning, Brady, or Montana.

It's a natural cycle.

Understand this ... if Joe Namath wasn't the great player that he was, he would NEVER have become the celebrity he became, and it wasn't just the Super Bowl win. Namath was a highly celebrated player even before the Jets became champs. Remember, he did sign what at the time was the richest rookie contract in all of sports in 1965.

As John Madden once said, "If he couldn't do what he did on the football field, the way he did it, none of that other "off the field" stuff would have mattered. No one would have cared".

So instead of fighting a point that you are not qualified to fight (since you never saw Namath take a snap live), why wouldn't you try to learn why the greatest football minds in history disagree with your assessment of him.

Could it be that statistics don't tell the entire story?

The Nomination: "awesome" Sperm Edwards

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Topic: NY Post: Show Revis the Money

There are a few things I really do not like about these articles. In terms of money details I think its very simple. If the player has already indicated that he does not like the fact that he is playing the game for 550K, why would you give that player a huge signing bonus? Just think logically about it. Revis was paid far over his slot in the draft. Made good money these last three years and could end up with a guarantee that would rank as if he was drafted number 4 or so in the draft. He was paid pretty well from 2007-2009. He'll be paid pretty well in 2011 and super high in 2012. But the gripe is 2010. If you go and give Revis a 40 million dollar signing bonus and then stagger the rest of his contract at some point he is again going to be earning what he considers under market. And then what? He'll threaten to hold out again. There is nothing wrong with Revis wanting longer term security and to get paid, but this is a player who works with an agent that held him out as a rookie and wants him to hold out again after just three years. You can expect a person with that track record to honor past salaries as a means for lower future pay.

Secondly everything everyone writes about Darelle has been written before. Now I know he is great and clearly the best corner in the NFL, but outside of a QB there is almost no position in the league where the player is indispensable. Its a year to year thing. Revis was the man in 2009. Now everyone says we can not survive without him in 2010. I remember around this time last year we could not survive losing Leon Washington and Kris Jenkins. We'd be dead. Washington is in Seattle and Jenkins played less then half the year. The team survived. They made the playoffs. We hear it every season. The Colts cant survive without Bob Sanders. They do every single season. The Pats cant survive without x, y, and Z. They do every year. They almost made the playoffs with a scrub at QB. Teams survive without players. It happens every single season. If Vernon Gholston went out this year and racked up 15 sacks there would be a new player that the team cant do without. Revis is great, but he isnt the only player that makes the defense work.

The Nomination: "well said." Bruce Banner

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