SouthernJet Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Interesting stats,, no question alabama and florida totally dominant, but ACC #2 per this guy.. its close from a conf perspective and actual results this year Big Least is last Conference Power Rankings: Week 14 Posted by: Bill Trocchi GaTech's win over Georgia helped push the ACC past the SEC. The SEC championship game will dwarf its ACC counterpart this weekend in hype and quality, and rightly so. Florida and Alabama are two of the best teams in the country, and the Georgia Dome will be ready to explode at kickoff. When No. 18 BC takes on unranked Virginia Tech in Tampa, however, there will be plenty of empty seats. But I'm here to inform you a championship game does not a conference make, and for the final pre-bowl Conference Power Rankings, the ACC has passed the SEC for No. 2 on the conference food chain. How? Check the numbers. The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year (0-3 against Florida and Alabama, 6-1 against everyone else). The ACC went 15-9 against non-conference BCS opponents, the SEC went 6-9. The ACC has 10 bowl eligible teams. The SEC has eight. Vanderbilt went 4-4 in the SEC and 0-2 vs. the ACC. Wake Forest went 4-4 in the ACC and 2-0 vs. the SEC. Florida and Alabama are clearly the best teams in either conference, but when you starting going down the line after that, the pendelum swings toward the ACC. Georgia Tech and Georgia are the best teams not playing in either title game, and we know who won that one. Next up is Ole Miss and possibly Wake Forest. The Deacons beat the Rebels. A notch below that? How about South Carolina and Clemson? ACC wins head-to-head again. There's simply more evidence than the glamour of the SEC can overcome. I love the passion, the excitement and the whole over-the-top fervor of the SEC. But when it comes to the play between the lines, the SEC is the third best conference right now. NOTE: The BCS+ notation reflects BCS conference teams, plus other teams ranked in the current AP Top 25. 1. Big 12 (38-10 vs. non-conference opponents, 8-8 vs. BCS+) The Good: Three of the best teams in the country, plus a legit Oklahoma State team that should scare the bejeebas out of whoever draws it in a bowl game. The Bad: Only seven bowl eligible teams despite the second easiest non-conference schedule among BCS conferences. The Verdict: The league is top heavy, but Missouri is no slouch, and Kansas showed some serious moxie winning in Kansas City. It's not a runaway, but this league is tops in the nation. 2. ACC (37-11, 15-9) The Good: As mentioned above, 10 bowl eligible teams, a stellar BCS+ record and remarkable depth (last-place Duke owns two BCS non-conference wins). The Bad: No. 15 Georgia Tech is the top ranked team in the league, and it didn't even qualify for the ACC title game. The Verdict: It is close, but the ACC holds the lead over the SEC heading into bowl season with Music City and Chick-fil-A matchups still to come. 3. SEC (37-11, 6-9) The Good: Florida should be favored to win the national championship, and Alabama is currently ranked No. 1 in the nation. It doesn't get much better than that. The Bad: Two coaches have been fired/resigned, a third's seat is getting warm (see: Auburn) and a New Year's Day bowl with SEC ties will have to invite a 7-5 team. Yuck. The Verdict: When you have the fewest BCS games of any major conference, you need to make the most of them, and the SEC certainly did not. A big bowl season could salvage a down year for the conference. 4. Big Ten (32-12, 6-9) The Good: Four ranked teams, two of whom could earn BCS berths if things fall right for Ohio State. The Bad: Poor BCS+ mark, four losses to the MAC and a 1-2 record vs. Notre Dame. The Verdict: The Big Ten's Big Three and the Mountain West's Big Three are very comparable, but the Big Ten has the edge in the rest of the conference. 5. Mountain West (25-11, 9-5) The Good: Utah returns to another BCS bowl, and BYU and TCU were two of the stronger teams in the nation, which helped the conference to the best BCS+ mark. The Bad: Six 'bad' losses, which is the most of any conference, plus one-third of the league is looking for a new coach. The Verdict: The MWC owned the Pac-10 (6-1) and enjoyed its best season in history. 6. Pac-10 (14-16, 6-13) The Good: All-powerful USC has a slight chance at the national title and will again end up in the Top 5. The Bad: Washington and Washington State (2-22) are a good place to start, but there really isn't good news anywhere else. Oregon State blew a chance for the Rose Bowl by giving up 693 yards and two defensive touchdowns, which sent the Beavers to their fourth loss. The Verdict: Outside of USC, who was really pleased with this season? The Pac-10 likes a challenging schedule, but a 14-16 non-conference record is hard to believe. 7. Big East (28-12, 9-7) The Good: Matchups with Notre Dame, a winning BCS record and Cincinnati's emergence (the Bearcats will be a sneaky tough BCS bowl opponent). The Bad: Five 'bad' losses and so-called new 'powers' West Virginia, Louisville and Rutgers are all unranked. The Verdict: The league certainly has potential, but if Brian Kelly leaves Cincinnati, it will mark the third straight year the league champ lost its coach, which is never a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Interesting stats,, no question alabama and florida totally dominant, but ACC #2 per this guy.. its close from a conf perspective and actual results this year Big Least is last Conference Power Rankings: Week 14 Posted by: Bill Trocchi GaTech's win over Georgia helped push the ACC past the SEC. The SEC championship game will dwarf its ACC counterpart this weekend in hype and quality, and rightly so. Florida and Alabama are two of the best teams in the country, and the Georgia Dome will be ready to explode at kickoff. When No. 18 BC takes on unranked Virginia Tech in Tampa, however, there will be plenty of empty seats. But I'm here to inform you a championship game does not a conference make, and for the final pre-bowl Conference Power Rankings, the ACC has passed the SEC for No. 2 on the conference food chain. How? Check the numbers. The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year (0-3 against Florida and Alabama, 6-1 against everyone else). The ACC went 15-9 against non-conference BCS opponents, the SEC went 6-9. The ACC has 10 bowl eligible teams. The SEC has eight. Vanderbilt went 4-4 in the SEC and 0-2 vs. the ACC. Wake Forest went 4-4 in the ACC and 2-0 vs. the SEC. Florida and Alabama are clearly the best teams in either conference, but when you starting going down the line after that, the pendelum swings toward the ACC. Georgia Tech and Georgia are the best teams not playing in either title game, and we know who won that one. Next up is Ole Miss and possibly Wake Forest. The Deacons beat the Rebels. A notch below that? How about South Carolina and Clemson? ACC wins head-to-head again. There's simply more evidence than the glamour of the SEC can overcome. I love the passion, the excitement and the whole over-the-top fervor of the SEC. But when it comes to the play between the lines, the SEC is the third best conference right now. NOTE: The BCS+ notation reflects BCS conference teams, plus other teams ranked in the current AP Top 25. 1. Big 12 (38-10 vs. non-conference opponents, 8-8 vs. BCS+) The Good: Three of the best teams in the country, plus a legit Oklahoma State team that should scare the bejeebas out of whoever draws it in a bowl game. The Bad: Only seven bowl eligible teams despite the second easiest non-conference schedule among BCS conferences. The Verdict: The league is top heavy, but Missouri is no slouch, and Kansas showed some serious moxie winning in Kansas City. It's not a runaway, but this league is tops in the nation. 2. ACC (37-11, 15-9) The Good: As mentioned above, 10 bowl eligible teams, a stellar BCS+ record and remarkable depth (last-place Duke owns two BCS non-conference wins). The Bad: No. 15 Georgia Tech is the top ranked team in the league, and it didn't even qualify for the ACC title game. The Verdict: It is close, but the ACC holds the lead over the SEC heading into bowl season with Music City and Chick-fil-A matchups still to come. 3. SEC (37-11, 6-9) The Good: Florida should be favored to win the national championship, and Alabama is currently ranked No. 1 in the nation. It doesn't get much better than that. The Bad: Two coaches have been fired/resigned, a third's seat is getting warm (see: Auburn) and a New Year's Day bowl with SEC ties will have to invite a 7-5 team. Yuck. The Verdict: When you have the fewest BCS games of any major conference, you need to make the most of them, and the SEC certainly did not. A big bowl season could salvage a down year for the conference. 4. Big Ten (32-12, 6-9) The Good: Four ranked teams, two of whom could earn BCS berths if things fall right for Ohio State. The Bad: Poor BCS+ mark, four losses to the MAC and a 1-2 record vs. Notre Dame. The Verdict: The Big Ten's Big Three and the Mountain West's Big Three are very comparable, but the Big Ten has the edge in the rest of the conference. 5. Mountain West (25-11, 9-5) The Good: Utah returns to another BCS bowl, and BYU and TCU were two of the stronger teams in the nation, which helped the conference to the best BCS+ mark. The Bad: Six 'bad' losses, which is the most of any conference, plus one-third of the league is looking for a new coach. The Verdict: The MWC owned the Pac-10 (6-1) and enjoyed its best season in history. 6. Pac-10 (14-16, 6-13) The Good: All-powerful USC has a slight chance at the national title and will again end up in the Top 5. The Bad: Washington and Washington State (2-22) are a good place to start, but there really isn't good news anywhere else. Oregon State blew a chance for the Rose Bowl by giving up 693 yards and two defensive touchdowns, which sent the Beavers to their fourth loss. The Verdict: Outside of USC, who was really pleased with this season? The Pac-10 likes a challenging schedule, but a 14-16 non-conference record is hard to believe. 7. Big East (28-12, 9-7) The Good: Matchups with Notre Dame, a winning BCS record and Cincinnati's emergence (the Bearcats will be a sneaky tough BCS bowl opponent). The Bad: Five 'bad' losses and so-called new 'powers' West Virginia, Louisville and Rutgers are all unranked. The Verdict: The league certainly has potential, but if Brian Kelly leaves Cincinnati, it will mark the third straight year the league champ lost its coach, which is never a good sign. Piece of crap SEC has #1 and #3 teams in country and best ACC has it what? 15?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Piece of crap SEC has #1 and #3 teams in country and best ACC has it what? 15?? did uread the article thats exactly what it said.. 1 and 3 , but it drops off after that,, article was about whole confernece, not who has best 2 or 3 teams.. again, did u read the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 did uread the article thats exactly what it said.. 1 and 3 , but it drops off after that,, article was about whole confernece, not who has best 2 or 3 teams.. again, did u read the article and you don't think Georgia and LSu and Miss would be at top of ACC be real skippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 and you don't think Georgia and LSu and Miss would be at top of ACC be real skippy again, did u read article??? gergoia tech wasnt atop acc, but beat georgia at georgia, wake forest beat Ole Miss and Vandy, clemson destroys south carolina ,,hell LSU lost to georgia and barely beat south carolina, oh and the ygot destroyed by a Ole Miss team that wake forst beat.. its a down year thats all,,for the non Big 2 (bama and florida) no one argues florida and alabama reign syupreme,, but sec is down for rest of conference base don actual results vs out of conf teams..and head to head.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 again, did u read article??? gergoia tech wasnt atop acc, but beat georgia at georgia, wake forest beat Ole Miss and Vandy, clemson destroys south carolina ,,hell LSU lost to georgia and barely beat south carolina, oh and the ygot destroyed by a Ole Miss team that wake forst beat.. its a down year thats all,,for the non Big 2 (bama and florida) no one argues florida and alabama reign syupreme,, but sec is down for rest of conference base don actual results vs out of conf teams..and head to head.. GT Georgia is a big rivalry game, not surprised at upset Ole Miss gave the game away to WF Clemson vs SC another Big rivalry game and Clemson has talent. ACC is an average conf, no real good teams ..bunch of average teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 GT Georgia is a big rivalry game, not surprised at upset Ole Miss gave the game away to WF Clemson vs SC another Big rivalry game and Clemson has talent. pretty funny post,,all sec losses can be expalined away as old bill said...it is what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 pretty funny post,,all sec losses can be expalined away as old bill said...it is what it is funny how you pick and choose games ACC football blows!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 funny how you pick and choose games ACC football blows!!!!!!! did u read the article,,they had teh whole acc and sec out of conf record,,they didnt pick and choose.. "The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year (0-3 against Florida and Alabama, 6-1 against everyone else). The ACC went 15-9 against non-conference BCS opponents, the SEC went 6-9. The ACC has 10 bowl eligible teams. The SEC has eight." and when u say BLOWS I know you know u r wrong and cant come up with anything else.. hey u should be glad,,a down sec allowed bama to run table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 did u read the article,,they had teh whole acc and sec out of conf record,,they didnt pick and choose.. "The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year (0-3 against Florida and Alabama, 6-1 against everyone else). The ACC went 15-9 against non-conference BCS opponents, the SEC went 6-9. The ACC has 10 bowl eligible teams. The SEC has eight." and when u say BLOWS I know you know u r wrong and cant come up with anything else.. hey u should be glad,,a down sec allowed bama to run table nice back hand compliment[-X OleMiss vs WF was played on sept6 in wafe forest and ole miss gave game away. Ole Miss would be in top 4 of acc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 nice back hand compliment[-X OleMiss vs WF was played on sept6 in wafe forest and ole miss gave game away. Ole Miss would be in top 4 of acc it is what it is.. and when was gt/goe played , and where? bottom line is teh stats for whole conf,,they dont lie ,,these arent manufactured or cherry picked, just reality "The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year (0-3 against Florida and Alabama, 6-1 against everyone else). The ACC went 15-9 against non-conference BCS opponents, the SEC went 6-9. The ACC has 10 bowl eligible teams. The SEC has eight." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 it is what it is.. and when was gt/goe played , and where? bottom line is teh stats for whole conf,,they dont lie ,,these arent manufactured or cherry picked, just reality "The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year (0-3 against Florida and Alabama, 6-1 against everyone else). The ACC went 15-9 against non-conference BCS opponents, the SEC went 6-9. The ACC has 10 bowl eligible teams. The SEC has eight." you have lost it............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 you have lost it............. whats not triuew about the SI statement ??? "The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year (0-3 against Florida and Alabama, 6-1 against everyone else). The ACC went 15-9 against non-conference BCS opponents, the SEC went 6-9. The ACC has 10 bowl eligible teams. The SEC has eight." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 whats not triuew about the SI statement ??? "The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year (0-3 against Florida and Alabama, 6-1 against everyone else). The ACC went 15-9 against non-conference BCS opponents, the SEC went 6-9. The ACC has 10 bowl eligible teams. The SEC has eight." I am an ACC fan and they are the poster child for mediocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 Yikes, even more info on sec / acc.. agreed by all bama and florida great, but look at rest of conferences,, i didnt realize what article points out,,amount of top 25 teams and avergae sagarin ratings of teams..pretty cool http://www.thestate.com/sports/story/611552.html Morris: Little comparison between ACC, SEC I plead guilty. I jumped to the early conclusion that Atlantic Coast Conference football stunk to high heaven this season. As it turns out, that smell was coming from the Southeastern Conference. By season’s end, the ACC was a better league than the SEC in almost every area. Give the SEC credit for having arguably the top two teams in the country in Alabama and Florida. In every other comparison, the ACC came out on top. The ACC won six of 10 head-to-head meetings. Four ACC teams are among the top 25 in the BCS rankings, compared to three SEC teams. The average national ranking for ACC teams in the Sagarin ratings is 30.4, compared to 46 for SEC teams. Further, 10 of the ACC’s 12 teams are eligible for bowl games. The SEC could not fill its bowl slots and will send eight teams. By the conclusion of the regular season, the bigger question was not whether the ACC surpassed the SEC, but how did this come about? There were several factors. First, nearly every ACC team improved as the season rolled along. Only Alabama, Florida and Mississippi in the SEC could say the same. Next, perhaps for the first time in its history, the ACC has a solid stable of coaches that can match that of the SEC. Finally, let’s face it, the SEC had a down season. Who would have thought that would be the case after the first weekend of the season, when No. 9 Clemson was blistered by No. 24 Alabama 34-10; N.C. State was pummeled by USC 34-0; Virginia lost to Southern California 52-7; Virginia Tech fell to East Carolina 27-22; North Carolina struggled to defeat McNeese State 35-27; and Maryland escaped Delaware 14-7. It looked as if the ACC again would be among the also-rans of college football. After all, this is the league that never has won a BCS game. Then something strange happened. Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, N.C. State and Virginia Tech all improved throughout the season. Perhaps it was because the league features young quarterbacks who developed as the season progressed. Another possible reason is that since the league expanded before the 2005 season, every member has made a strong commitment to improving its football teams. That meant bringing in coaches who can build solid programs, such as David Cutcliffe at Duke, Paul Johnson at Georgia Tech, Butch Davis at North Carolina and Tom O’Brien at N.C. State. All of the sudden, the ACC has a group of coaches on par with the SEC, which in recent seasons has featured an all-star cast from Nick Saban at Alabama to Steve Spurrier at USC. The result is that perhaps for the first time in ACC history, there were no pushovers in the league. Playing at Duke was no gimme this season. Going to North Carolina and N.C. State was a challenge. Meanwhile, the SEC fell from its perch as the best football league in the country. The Sagarin ratings have the SEC third in the country, behind the ACC and Big 12. “It was a down year, there is no question about that, no question at all,” Spurrier said. “It was one of those years where Alabama and Florida were, by far, the two best teams. Usually, there are three or four up there.” Mississippi ended up being the No. 3 team in the league and might have been the only other team — besides Alabama and Florida — that showed marked improvement from beginning to end. Mississippi did not receive a vote in the preseason rankings and finished the regular season at No. 22. No doubt, the SEC was hurt by having two of the league’s perennial powers, Tennessee and Auburn, fall from grace. Both failed to qualify for a bowl game with 5-7 records. Additionally, defending national champion LSU held a No. 6 ranking in the preseason and did not receive a vote in the latest poll. The last and biggest blow to the SEC came this past weekend when Georgia lost at home to ACC rival Georgia Tech 45-42. Georgia was the consensus preseason No. 1 but never lived up to that billing. A 9-3 record dropped Georgia to No. 17 in the rankings. Still, the SEC could go a long way toward salvaging its reputation if either Alabama or Florida wins the national championship. That would give the SEC three consecutive national champions and four since 2003. The league also could save face by winning its bowl matchups against the ACC, although the projected pairings of Kentucky (6-6) against Boston College (9-3) in the Music City Bowl and LSU (7-5) against Georgia Tech (9-3) in the Chick-fil-A Bowl do not look favorable for the SEC. But that’s why they play the games, and why it is best to wait until the results are in before making too harsh a judgment against a particular league. Listen to Morris Tuesdays from 4-5 p.m. on ESPN Radio 93.1 FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Move On ACC Football blows!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 Move On ACC Football blows!!!!!!!! hah fact facts facts.. but of course you didnt read and if acc blows, my lord, other ythan bama and florida, sec downright slurps the cum from the acc's blow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 pretty funny post,,all sec losses can be expalined away as old bill said...it is what it is 100 % agreed. The ACC blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 hah fact facts facts.. but of course you didnt read and if acc blows, my lord, other ythan bama and florida, sec downright slurps the cum from the acc's blow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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