Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Klecko's screwed. J/k Don't worry we'll let you do the girl ones. You too, dip****? From the NFL rulebook: ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. FTW I'll post it 100 times if I have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Nice try and misinterpreting the rules on what is and what it not a legal block. An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body. A blocker may use his arms, or open or closed hands, to contact an opponent on or outside the opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Did Polite initiate contace and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet? YES HE DID. Therefore, it is a foul. This is simple plain English. The rule is clearly stated and the hit was a textbook example. This isn't rocket science. The point and I know you get it but just don't want to accept the fact that you are wrong, is the rule on blocking is the rule that is be applied in this case seeing as the contact occurred in the course of making a block. As already mentioned the rule on what constitutes a legal block clearly superseded any other rule in this case. Your defense of looking away and covering your ears and refusing to hear the truth is nothing short of a child's game. Good luck with that BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 The point and I know you get it but just don't want to accept the fact that you are wrong, is the rule on blocking is the rule that is be applied in this case seeing as the contact occurred in the course of making a block. As already mentioned the rule on what constitutes a legal block clearly superseded any other rule in this case. Your defense of looking away and covering your ears and refusing to hear the truth is nothing short of a child's game. Good luck with that BTW. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. Reading is fundamental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Reading is fundamental. Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 What's really funny here is that if the Dolphins fans were right about this, several people who have been reading this thread, like EY, who takes great joy in pouncing on my rare ****ups would be all over me, agreeing with the Fins fans and mocking me for being wrong yet despite the fact that he has been in this thread in the last 10 minutes, he has not said a word. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. This is not hard to figure out. You assheads are applying the rule incorrectly. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. Notice there is no mention of whether the player is on offense or defense. The man who initiates contact with the crown of his helmet is in violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 like EY, who takes great joy in pouncing on my rare ****ups would be all over me rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 rare? Shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Well to be fair, you quoted an accurate statement. Polite is damn good. You're crazy if you think he's better than T-Rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 " What's really funny here is that if the Dolphins fans were right about this, several people who have been reading this thread, like EY, who takes great joy in pouncing on my rare ****ups would be all over me, agreeing with the Fins fans and mocking me for being wrong yet despite the fact that he has been in this thread in the last 10 minutes, he has not said a word. This is not hard to figure out. You assheads are applying the rule incorrectly. Notice there is no mention of whether the player is on offense or defense. The man who initiates contact with the crown of his helmet is in violation. Notice they added a specific rule to determine what does and does not constitute a "Legal black". also notice that they even went as far as to title the rule "Legal Block by Offensive Player" Also notice that in this rule clearly state that "An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body." They added this rule to allow for exceptions in the blocking game. It would be impossible to enforce a rule that would disallow for any such contact. If a rule was in place that would allow an official to penalize a team for making such contact then there could easily be a flag called on each and every running play. I appreciate your effort in trying to defend you side of the argument here Kleco but in this case you are wrong. ____________________________________ Rule 12 Player Conduct Article 3 Legal Block by Offensive Player An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body. A blocker may use his arms, or open or closed hands, to contact an opponent on or outside the opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 " Notice they added a specific rule to determine what does and does not constitute a "Legal black". also notice that they even went as far as to title the rule "Legal Block by Offensive Player" Also notice that in this rule clearly state that "An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body." They added this rule to allow for exceptions in the blocking game. It would be impossible to enforce a rule that would disallow for any such contact. If a rule was in place that would allow an official to penalize a team for making such contact then there could easily be a flag called on each and every running play. I appreciate your effort in trying to defend you side of the argument here Kleco but in this case you are wrong. ____________________________________ Rule 12 Player Conduct Article 3 Legal Block by Offensive Player An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body. A blocker may use his arms, or open or closed hands, to contact an opponent on or outside the opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Clearly you are one of the special people. Pot, kettle..... An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Pot, kettle..... ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Clearly you are one of the special people. I also find it very "convenient" that you chose to completely ignore this portion of the rule that you are using for your defense. game officials will give special attention in administering this rule to protecting those players who are in virtually defenseless postures (e.g., a player in the act of or just after throwing a pass, a receiver catching or attempting to catch a pass, a runner already in the grasp of a tackler, a kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air, or a player on the ground at the end of a play). All players in virtually defenseless postures are protected by the same prohibitions against use of the helmet and facemask that are described in the roughing-the-passer rules (see Article 11, subsection 3 below of this Rule 12, Section 2) That rule was put in place to protect defenseless players. Furthermore I challenge you to state one instance where a flag was thrown for helmet to helmet contact during a block at the LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I also find it very "convenient" that you chose to completely ignore this portion of the rule that you are using for your defense. game officials will give special attention in administering this rule to protecting those players who are in virtually defenseless postures (e.g., a player in the act of or just after throwing a pass, a receiver catching or attempting to catch a pass, a runner already in the grasp of a tackler, a kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air, or a player on the ground at the end of a play). All players in virtually defenseless postures are protected by the same prohibitions against use of the helmet and facemask that are described in the roughing-the-passer rules (see Article 11, subsection 3 below of this Rule 12, Section 2) That rule was put in place to protect defenseless players. Furthermore I challenge you to state one instance where a flag was thrown for helmet to helmet contact during a block at the LOS. I didn't. I mentioned that in my first post about the rule. "Special attention" does not mean limited to those specific circumstances you dolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Kelcko it's over bro, valiant effort on your part but you were wrong. Polite destroyed Scott with an exceptional LEGAL block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. Back to your original defense I see.... Good luck with that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I also find it very "convenient" that you chose to completely ignore this portion of the rule that you are using for your defense. game officials will give special attention in administering this rule to protecting those players who are in virtually defenseless postures (e.g., a player in the act of or just after throwing a pass, a receiver catching or attempting to catch a pass, a runner already in the grasp of a tackler, a kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air, or a player on the ground at the end of a play). All players in virtually defenseless postures are protected by the same prohibitions against use of the helmet and facemask that are described in the roughing-the-passer rules (see Article 11, subsection 3 below of this Rule 12, Section 2) That rule was put in place to protect defenseless players. Furthermore I challenge you to state one instance where a flag was thrown for helmet to helmet contact during a block at the LOS. Oh, almost forgot: ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. Notice no mention of offensive or defensive players? Did Polite initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown of his helmet? Yes he did. Therefore it is an illegal hit. Just keep burying yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Kelcko it's over bro, valiant effort on your part but you were wrong. Polite destroyed Scott with an exceptional LEGAL block. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I didn't. I mentioned that in my first post about the rule. "Special attention" does not mean limited to those specific circumstances you dolt. Any rule put in place to specifically handle a certain situation clearly supersedes any other rules. In this case the rule that is specific to blocking would be the rule applied in the case of oh lets say... Blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Back to your original defense I see.... Good luck with that.... You're the monkey, right? Because you are refusing to see that the rule in question makes no mention of what side of the ball a player plays on: ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Any rule put in place to specifically handle a certain situation clearly supersedes any other rules. In this case the rule that is specific to blocking would be the rule applied in the case of oh lets say... Blocking. Reverse that and you got it right. The rule that governs what Polite did is the hitting with the crown of the helmet. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. That supersedes the blocking rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Off the subject and a quick question. Do you guys allow your own members to simply spam the same dribble (copy/paste) over and over? If so then more power to ya I guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Off the subject and a quick question. Do you guys allow your own members to simply spam the same dribble (copy/paste) over and over? If so then more power to ya I guess.. When dealing with blatantly moronic homerism? Yes. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Reverse that and you got it right. The rule that governs what Polite did is the hitting with the crown of the helmet. ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. That supersedes the blocking rule. There is a reason they put in the a rule in place called "Legal block by offensive player" and there is a reason in that rule the first line clearly states " An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body." And that is because it is in fact legal to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 There is a reason they put in the a rule in place called "Legal block by offensive player" and there is a reason in that rule the first line clearly states " An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body." And that is because it is in fact legal to do so. Crown of the helmet moron. Hitting with the crown of the helmet is illegal. Period. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Klecko how often, if EVER, do you see an offensive player at the LOS getting flagged for head to head contact block. Come on bro. I've never seen a FB getting a flag for the same block that Polite did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Crown of the helmet moron. Hitting with the crown of the helmet is illegal. Period. End of story. If we were in Avatar, your argument would be called "unobtanium". Polite didn't lead with the crown of his helmet, he lowered his shoulder. The helmet contact (which is legal) is incidental. Lets take another look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 If we were in Avatar, your argument would be called "unobtanium". It's a good thing this made no sense, because that's the only thing saving it from being the gayest sentence I've ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 If we were in Avatar, your argument would be called "unobtanium". Polite didn't lead with the crown of his helmet, he lowered his shoulder. The helmet contact (which is legal) is incidental. Lets take another look. You're definitely smoking crack and I wouldn't pay money to see a James Cameron movie so the reference is lost on me. Incidental? Wow. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 It's a good thing this made no sense, because that's the only thing saving it from being the gayest sentence I've ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 It's a good thing this made no sense, because that's the only thing saving it from being the gayest sentence I've ever read. I doubt it. You're definitely smoking crack and I wouldn't pay money to see a James Cameron movie so the reference is lost on me. Incidental? Wow. Just wow. Yeah, you're more of a "Twilight" series kinda girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I doubt it. Yeah, you're more of a "Twilight" series kinda girl. What's "Twilight?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 What's "Twilight?" Nice cover. BTW, Polite's block against Scott was legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 " Notice they added a specific rule to determine what does and does not constitute a "Legal black". also notice that they even went as far as to title the rule "Legal Block by Offensive Player" Also notice that in this rule clearly state that "An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body." They added this rule to allow for exceptions in the blocking game. It would be impossible to enforce a rule that would disallow for any such contact. If a rule was in place that would allow an official to penalize a team for making such contact then there could easily be a flag called on each and every running play. I appreciate your effort in trying to defend you side of the argument here Kleco but in this case you are wrong. ____________________________________ Rule 12 Player Conduct Article 3 Legal Block by Offensive Player An offensive player is permitted to block an opponent by contacting him with his head, shoulders, hands, and/or outer surface of the forearm, or with any other part of his body. A blocker may use his arms, or open or closed hands, to contact an opponent on or outside the opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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